Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Khane

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They're game designers, not market researchers.
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Whidon

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They're game designers, not market researchers.
I and most posters appreciate this. However they should have brought on someone for marketing before the KS began... Also they had so little game info beyond fluff info compared to other KS
 

Convo

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I would say at this point they are already spread thin Khane. Probably just don't have the time.. Doesn't mean they can't reach out to a place like pjp and have them do it. They just need to provided the questions.
 

Khane

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I would say at this point they are already spread thin Khane. Probably just don't have the time.. Doesn't mean they can't reach out to a place like pjp and have them do it. They just need to provided the questions.
It's obvious they are throwing darts at the community to see what sticks. It's a much better use of time to throw those darts in the form of a poll and get feedback than throwing it, letting rage ensue and then backtracking. It's also a lot better for the continuity of the pledges. Less of this stupid "THE KS JUST WENT DOWN AGAIN" bullshit.

All with the added benefit of them looking less inept. Seriously, all this "Here's some info... wait, lol sorry guys what we really meant to say is THIS! That's good right?" makes the project look haphazard and doomed for failure.
 

Lysis

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I and most posters appreciate this. However they should have brought on someone for marketing before the KS began... Also they had so little game info beyond fluff info compared to other KS
I was being sarcastic. Please excuse my poor sense of humor. I can't find the quote, but I seem to recall Brad saying something similar about not being kickstarter experts.
 

Khane

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I thought you were being sarcastic but it's hard to tell since we don't have much post history to go on. Can we get a comic sans tag for sarcasm Amod?
 

Zefah

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From Salim over on the Kickstarter thread:

I am sorry if the cross server part upset anyone. We were pretty clear that it was not a definite and I only like it because I think if you know someone on another server you should be able to group play with them if you can.
I do not support the notion of just grouping with a random person who you will never talk to again and none of our messaging implies that our game supports that, if it does then I do apologize.
But if you talk to someone on another server a lot why not allow you to add them to your friend list and group with them? It is about making friends no matter where they are right?
It is just a concept all, talking about cross-server possibilities is not even on my radar, but the question was asked so we gave our response.
The main point is that just because you do not like the way that a feature was put into one game does not mean it cannot be modified to work with a different philosophy. We have been pretty clear about the kind of game we want to make and if we try to add something that does not work within that design it won't go in.
 

Whidon

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I was being sarcastic. Please excuse my poor sense of humor. I can't find the quote, but I seem to recall Brad saying something similar about not being kickstarter experts.
Sarcasm can be hard to tell in text. Especially when you give no indication of it. Yes Brad said something like that also. "WE are MMO Experts not KS experts!" or something like that

Or maybe I am just a diagnosed Autist who can't read social cues but I doubt it.
 

Muligan

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From Salim over on the Kickstarter thread:
Yeah, I had to jump in the x-server talk. I'm not letting this grey area talk go. They say its all talk but won't explain themselves. You can't say it's all talk and not explain what you're talking about.
 

Whidon

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From Salim over on the Kickstarter thread:
Salim liking a fag idea from WoW. What a shock.... How they did not realize the audience would despise something like lfg/lfr queues is beyond me..

Least they did a mea culpa. People can complain about making it up as they go along but the way this KS is going they basicallyhaveto really listen to the backers, thus seem to be doing just that.
 

Convo

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He's either tactfully dodging the question or has learned how to interact with the community in a positive, professional way. Either way, I support it, as both are skills he needed!
Yea, he chose not to go there. He seems very into chatting with those folks. He might sway people
 

Whidon

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KS chat in full retard mode now. People talking about having multiple instances of zones, or one big server filled with instances. Wtf.
I would have say each guild/player gets 1 Instance of each raid zone every 10-20 days, While the spawn times on non-isntanced will be random say 3-4days on avg for raid mobs. Instanced mobs will not drop the "rare" loot like the robe from ssra emp as an example. A solution like this seems ideal to allow competition whilst avoiding griefing. Beyond that maybe do the same for high lvl group dungeons but otherwise no instancing.