Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

BoozeCube

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He at least did you what you asked him to and made a post in the kickstarter comments. Sure it's not enough but it's at least something.
I swear some of you are like abused girlfriends. It doesn't matter what he does you will find a way to justify it. He only lies and beats me because he loves me.

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Nah baby I am sorry about the last time, just gimme another chance I promise it will be different. I've changed I swear.

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In the end you are just a beaten victim with nobody to blame but yourself.

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Ortega

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Everyone with a brain saw this coming after the dark knight fucking unveil
Come on dude, anyone with a brain saw this coming the day this thread was created. Nothing but a bunch of overly hopeful people posting in here from day one.

Brad's complete lack of heart towards both Vanguard and now this project if you can even call it that, combined his desire to accumulate large amounts of cash makes me wonder what his financial situation is really like. I'm guessing at one point Brad was very wealthy, but his complete lack of passion for making games outside of the funding part makes me leery of his motivation.
 

Vandyn

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Come on dude, anyone with a brain saw this coming the day this thread was created. Nothing but a bunch of overly hopeful people posting in here from day one.

Brad's complete lack of heart towards both Vanguard and now this project if you can even call it that, combined his desire to accumulate large amounts of cash makes me wonder what his financial situation is really like. I'm guessing at one point Brad was very wealthy, but his complete lack of passion for making games outside of the funding part makes me leery of his motivation.
I'm not really sure why any of this is a big surprise. The reality is he hasn't really done anything great (in terms of game development) in 12-13 years (if your opinion that Velious was the last great EQ expansion). Vanguard was and will always be a black mark so what else is there? So now all of a sudden people think he's going to recapture the magic from 15 years ago. Perhaps people should ask what he was doing at SoE when he was rehired there.
 

PhoneticHalo_sl

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Just so I understand.... They plan replace the shit KickStarter with the same shit pledges on their website and a sub. I'm losing all hope. They need to take a big step back and tell the family the holiday is off this year and get someone who knows what they are doing in to manage this funding/PR part. They admit they are no experts but keep trying and rushing things in hope that some shit might stick.

I'm more of a fan boy than most here. And I will admit I heard of FOH but never posted there or even checked those forums often. But here is the best place for Brad and the team to come and say here is our plans for pledge tiers, subs and funding goals what do you think??? It?s the only place they will get a non ass kissing response. I want this game and I want Brad to make it, but he cant keep making the same mistakes over and over.
 

BoozeCube

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Come on dude, anyone with a brain saw this coming the day this thread was created. Nothing but a bunch of overly hopeful people posting in here from day one.

Brad's complete lack of heart towards both Vanguard and now this project if you can even call it that, combined his desire to accumulate large amounts of cash makes me wonder what his financial situation is really like. I'm guessing at one point Brad was very wealthy, but his complete lack of passion for making games outside of the funding part makes me leery of his motivation.
I am cynical and critical of this project as much as the next guy but to chime in with some told you so the second the thread was started is some bullshit. The idea was solid, but you couldn't call bullshit until they showed all they had was some IHOP napkins with plans on them.
 

Ortega

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I am cynical and critical of this project as much as the next guy but to chime in with some told you so the second the thread was started is some bullshit. The idea was solid, but you couldn't call bullshit until they showed all they had was some IHOP napkins with plans on them.
It's not about having a solid idea. I'm pretty sure you give me and five other forum members a solid day to come up with an "idea" and will have a pretty good one on paper. Unfortunately ideas are jack shit without execution, and yes considering Brad's track record and the immense amount of hype in this thread prior to ANYTHING really being released at all it was pretty easy to see coming.
 

LadyVex_sl

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I am cynical and critical of this project as much as the next guy but to chime in with some told you so the second the thread was started is some bullshit. The idea was solid, but you couldn't call bullshit until they showed all they had was some IHOP napkins with plans on them.
Except that's exactly how they started the whole KS, and every entry on this forum and elsewhere read like a "dear diary" entry about why he should be trusted with our hopes, dreams and cash. (Despite the aforementioned terrible track record.) A lot of promises were made, including things that waffled back and forth just so he could appease anyone who was currently grilling him. And none of the ideas were solid. It was literally someone spitballing. If I had spent 20 minutes about the kind of game I wanted to make, I could do what he did. This is not bravado either. BECAUSE THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED.

A lot of people chimed in about how we were just going to burned yet again, so I think very few people are surprised. Hell, even the people who hoped beyond hope that this would work aren't surprised, but just disappointed.

The whole thing feels like that one friend who did drugs, claimed he was clean, asks you for a dubious pay day loan, then he just vanishes. Every once in awhile he'll call, ask you if anyone has been asking about him and if they do, to tell them "he's doing good, he's got some things planned, big things, it's gonna be big." You'll get in touch with him, ask him if he wants to hang, but he's always got something cooking that he needs to tend to.

Stop the cycle.
 

Devnull_sl

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Let's assume there is an investor/publisher out there willing to fund a throwback MMO like this. Is this still the team you want them betting their funding on now that you've seen the Kickstarter effort?
 

Cinge

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Let's assume there is an investor/publisher out there willing to fund a throwback MMO like this. Is this still the team you want them betting their funding on now that you've seen the Kickstarter effort?
And that's the problem in my mind. Yes they have good ideas and creativity but are they the group that can take care of the business side of creating a MMO(Managing time, money etc).
 

BoozeCube

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Except that's exactly how they started the whole KS, and every entry on this forum and elsewhere read like a "dear diary" entry about why he should be trusted with our hopes, dreams and cash. (Despite the aforementioned terrible track record.) A lot of promises were made, including things that waffled back and forth just so he could appease anyone who was currently grilling him. And none of the ideas were solid. It was literally someone spitballing. If I had spent 20 minutes about the kind of game I wanted to make, I could do what he did. This is not bravado either. BECAUSE THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED.

A lot of people chimed in about how we were just going to burned yet again, so I think very few people are surprised. Hell, even the people who hoped beyond hope that this would work aren't surprised, but just disappointed.

The whole thing feels like that one friend who did drugs, claimed he was clean, asks you for a dubious pay day loan, then he just vanishes. Every once in awhile he'll call, ask you if anyone has been asking about him and if they do, to tell them "he's doing good, he's got some things planned, big things, it's gonna be big." You'll get in touch with him, ask him if he wants to hang, but he's always got something cooking that he needs to tend to.

Stop the cycle.
You don't have to sell me on this team being dogshit. I have been calling them out to the point some of the fanboys here hate me for shitting on their messiah, but I won't claim to have hated it before seeing the kickstarter which is what he was saying. Once the kickstarter dropped then sure.
 

BoozeCube

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Let's assume there is an investor/publisher out there willing to fund a throwback MMO like this. Is this still the team you want them betting their funding on now that you've seen the Kickstarter effort?
The sad thing is if they find an investor/publisher for this failure then that's one less investor/publisher willing to take a chance on a group that deserves the money.
 

mkopec

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If they keep the team small, why not? Its only when it gets bloated out of control when it starts to fall apart. But a small team of like 20 peeps? I have no doubts. But one thing they need is the engineering. That shit has to be nailed.
 

LadyVex_sl

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You don't have to sell me on this team being dogshit. I have been calling them out to the point some of the fanboys here hate me for shitting on their messiah, but I won't claim to have hated it before seeing the kickstarter which is what he was saying. Once the kickstarter dropped then sure.
Oh, my mistake. Still though, if someone had told you that the chosen one of all MMOs was coming out and it was going to be led by this team, wouldn't you have been extremely critical and doubtful?
 

Arctic_Slicer_sl

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Only if you prove yourself by giving 15/month to show your faith mind you.........
I didn't pay a dime to get into the forums. They are currently testing some stuff with their new site and overall the new site looks pretty good. They do plan on having some sort of subscription thing at some point but how it will work is to be determined.
 

zzeris

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I don't see how they can get an investor who wouldn't have the same questions posted here. The lack of support on KS for whatever reason couldn't be encouraging.
 

arallu

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The sad thing is if they find an investor/publisher for this failure then that's one less investor/publisher willing to take a chance on a group that deserves the money.
Is there anybody out there. Just nod if you can hear me.. heh

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Big Flex

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Is there anybody out there. Just nod if you can hear me.. heh

Brad McQuaid ?@Aradune 2h
If anyone knows an angel investor or other type of investor who might be interested in investing in VR, please let me know.
lol if it wasnt pathetic before, it sure is now.