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Yoda, you are.

2 of my kids had the opportunity to return to in-person learning this past Monday, and both elected to stay home for the remainder of this semester (until Christmas break). I support their decision, cases are exploding here like crazy, and they said they are doing well with the online format (and they are, we checked it all out together). We are all spending so much time together that it can be wearing, but we're doing everything we can to get out of the house when possible. I feel badly for my one daughter, it's her senior year, and she couldn't do show choir like she wanted to. Plus, how many other opportunities is she missing in her senior year because of this stupid pandemic? 2 of my kids are at college, and are living in dorms. They're doing some of their classes online from the dorms. They're having a blast. My youngest is in person at school. But he had the same experience last year with computer stuff. He learned it so bloody fast it was crazy. He is now on the technology team at his school, and he's the one starting the zoom meeting for the kids that have to be home because of exposure and testing and so forth. He's literally teaching his 40 year old teachers how to use the equipment.

These are strange times.
The whole thing is a mess. We've already decided we probably aren't doing traditional trick or treating this year which sucks ass, given my kids are 3 and 5 so really prime time for them. We were just going to have a small party/movie night with the two kids and sort of treat it like easter with hiding candy. It's lame, but I'm fucked if I get covid. Christmas? I don't trust my relatives on a normal year, let alone a pandemic. Fucking horse shit, all of it.

I did find it cute that when my oldest went in-person last week, my 3 year old (autistic) ran around the house yelling about how he was looking for him. For hours. They've never really been separated more than a couple hours, so him being out of the house for 9 hours is something different.
 

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The whole thing is a mess. We've already decided we probably aren't doing traditional trick or treating this year which sucks ass, given my kids are 3 and 5 so really prime time for them. We were just going to have a small party/movie night with the two kids and sort of treat it like easter with hiding candy. It's lame, but I'm fucked if I get covid. Christmas? I don't trust my relatives on a normal year, let alone a pandemic. Fucking horse shit, all of it.

I did find it cute that when my oldest went in-person last week, my 3 year old (autistic) ran around the house yelling about how he was looking for him. For hours. They've never really been separated more than a couple hours, so him being out of the house for 9 hours is something different.

Dang, that's a huge adjustment for him, changes his whole world. Hope he figures it out soon and finds peace.

We have a hilarious morning routine where we're all taking turns making breakfast. Pancakes happen often. Last one into the kitchen gets a pancake thrown at them. The kids have started bringing thing to use as shields to avoid a pancake to the head.
 

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That's really rough man. I had some trauma as a child where my dad left our dog with us, and my mother sent it to the pound while I was at school. This happened twice, with separate dogs. I can't imagine seeing my dog get hit at that age.


Yeah, after I posted t hat he started using it. It was seriously one day of him being confused and then the next day he's a chromebook pro. Sponges, kids are
Talked with child on phone today and he was hunky dory , so that's the plan. Don't bring shit up and move on. Be a parent if he does bring it up later.
 
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Apparently state department of health out here in Washington approved hybrid school earlier than expected so my kids who are staying home, of course are having a rough time. Made worse that my middle daughter in kindergarten doesn't even have a teacher yet because they just hired someone last Friday and isn't ready yet? What a cluster.
 

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We’ve been doing in person all year. I think there’s been ~150 cases or something in our district. They just quarantine those kids to home learning for a couple weeks then bring em back. No one has had to go to the hospital or anything, from the information we’re getting from the school it’s like they just have a cold/sniffles.

I think the school year started with around 12% doing home learning, each quarter they give everyone the option to switch one way or the other. Think it’s around 9% from home now. I think the mild effects/non super spreading convinced people to come back.
 

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Well my family is on quarantine lock down for 14 days. Son is in kindergarten and was exposed to another student who tested positive. Let the fun begin
 
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We’ve been doing in person all year. I think there’s been ~150 cases or something in our district. They just quarantine those kids to home learning for a couple weeks then bring em back. No one has had to go to the hospital or anything, from the information we’re getting from the school it’s like they just have a cold/sniffles.

I think the school year started with around 12% doing home learning, each quarter they give everyone the option to switch one way or the other. Think it’s around 9% from home now. I think the mild effects/non super spreading convinced people to come back.
I'm wondering if our district is going to offer a switch at semester, I kind of hope so... I would definitely send my daughter back.

Our district went full remote 1 week after school started for 3 weeks, then back in person ever since. We've only gotten two notices that a kid at my daughter's school has tested positive for covid. I mean its moot for us because she's at home but still, surprised given the size of our district.
 

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Got our official letter from the county health department. Only my 5 year old son is on mandatory quarantine. My wife, me and my 2 year old daughter are free to go anywhere. Had the first day of distance learning. My son prefers to go to school.
 

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Met with one of the early intervention specialists today - last meeting as my son was aging out. He's in ABA and preschool full time.

She typically works with kids with autism from 2 years old through 21, some she's followed their entire life up to 21. She was saying that based on my son's progress, she doesn't believe anyone will ever know he was diagnosed autistic besides us.

He's really progressed so remarkably the last year and a half. He went from completely non verbal, into "hulk mode" autism freak outs - literally the only way I can describe it, to now saying sentences mostly. He still struggles with wh- questions, but he's getting better.

I always felt bad that his entire life has been meeting with specialists basically nonstop, but it's starting to look like it has paid off. I hate to use the term "normal", but I do hope he lives a relatively normal life. It reinforces my thought that I probably am mildly autistic and just because it was the 80s was never diagnosed.
 
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Met with one of the early intervention specialists today - last meeting as my son was aging out. He's in ABA and preschool full time.

She typically works with kids with autism from 2 years old through 21, some she's followed their entire life up to 21. She was saying that based on my son's progress, she doesn't believe anyone will ever know he was diagnosed autistic besides us.

He's really progressed so remarkably the last year and a half. He went from completely non verbal, into "hulk mode" autism freak outs - literally the only way I can describe it, to now saying sentences mostly. He still struggles with wh- questions, but he's getting better.

I always felt bad that his entire life has been meeting with specialists basically nonstop, but it's starting to look like it has paid off. I hate to use the term "normal", but I do hope he lives a relatively normal life. It reinforces my thought that I probably am mildly autistic and just because it was the 80s was never diagnosed.
That's awesome, and ya when we were kids so much shit just got hand waved away like "he's just wild", "too much sugar", "those damned vidya games". Kind of funny really when you think about it.
 
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I just got a complaint from my son's third grade teacher that his attention and participation has taken a nose dive recently during his virtual classes. My son fed some line of BS to both us and the teacher about having trouble with his microphone and that he wasn't able to keep up with the pace of the class. He tests in the 98-99th percentiles, reads at a sixth grade level, and can do the coursework in his sleep, so I didn't believe that for a second.

Ten seconds of investigation with his school-issued chromebook revealed that he's been watching Minecraft videos on YouTube for at least five hours a day for about the last month. Some of that is on me because I knew he was being a bit furtive with the device, but I let it slide because I thought he was keeping up. There's a place for moderation in everything, even misbehavior. However, this was just absurd. Plus, he apparently thought *I* was stupid and oblivious and didn't think enough about the technology to understand the concept of activity logs. And, you know, he lied about it repeatedly to my face.

Stern talks ensued, independence and trust were lost, and privileges were revoked. Hopefully this will imprint on him enough that it saves us from an even more embarrassing episode when he discovers porn.

This fucks up my leisure time, too, because as a pandemic treat I had set up a dedicated Minecraft server for the house and got fairly deep into developing the world with the kids during family gaming sessions. Now I don't get to finish my redstone multi-item sorting automated storage system. =(
 
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My first grade son is obsessed with Minecraft as well. Any tutorials or anything you could link about setting stuff up? He only plays on his Amazon Fire Kid's edition (read: slow as shit), and I have no idea what creative vs survival modes are, setting up your own server, inviting his friends, etc.
 

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My first grade son is obsessed with Minecraft as well. Any tutorials or anything you could link about setting stuff up? He only plays on his Amazon Fire Kid's edition (read: slow as shit), and I have no idea what creative vs survival modes are, setting up your own server, inviting his friends, etc.

Your options are going to be very limited with mobile devices. I'm not sure they support multiplayer at all. The full multiplayer versions of Minecraft that people play require a real PC. (If you go that route, play the Java version, not Bedrock.) Servers can either be leased for <$10 a month (Google and pick your favorite, tons of options) or you can roll your own if you can dedicate computing resources to it full time. I host mine on a old Intel NUC running Linux and signed up for a free DDNS service so extended family can play with us. Setting it up was a good learning experience. The kids play on retired laptops. The game is playable even on a 2013 ultralight with no dedicated GPU.

(If you follow that guide, make sure you get the most recent server .jar and not the one listed.)

Feel free to PM me if you want some specific advice on administering a server for kids or for performance-enhancing client mods for older machines. I'm a linux novice and some stuff was not obvious to me at first pass.
 
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I wish I could get my son less addicted to screens, but it's my fault that the wife and I let him have so much screen time in the past. Now that we are trying to dial it back it's like all he craves. It's not so much him wanting screen time that bothers me, it's that he could be having the best time of his life doing something else, but if he gets a whiff at all that screen time might be possible he immediately rejects what he was doing, says it was boring and stupid and wants screen time.
 

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I wish I could get my son less addicted to screens, but it's my fault that the wife and I let him have so much screen time in the past. Now that we are trying to dial it back it's like all he craves. It's not so much him wanting screen time that bothers me, it's that he could be having the best time of his life doing something else, but if he gets a whiff at all that screen time might be possible he immediately rejects what he was doing, says it was boring and stupid and wants screen time.
Generational I think. My oldest is the same and we limited him because of his speech delay (EI suggestion). He would play mario 28 hours a day if we let him. I think kids these days just see screens literally everywhere. When I grew up we had the one family room big TV and that was it. No phones, no tablets, definitely no laptops, etc.

If your son is that far ahead C Captain Suave he might be like I was on school and just bored stiff. I could read a book/magazine all day in class and get an A+ on the test. I was a smarty pants. I'm not bragging though - because that was a disservice as soon as I entered university and got my ass handed to me.
 

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I don’t like the screen time either, and we limit it. He had zero screen time outside of movies & shows until he was like 4. We also take it away completely if he’s being a shithead or gets in trouble at school.

I try to think back to when I was a kid and I remember playing Nintendo for the entire weekend so I try not to get too mad at the screen time. I remember in 4th or 5th grade I sat down one morning and beat FF1 from a fresh start in a single day.

He is blowing away his school work and reading so I can’t say it’s harmful to his development or anything. It’s just hard not to get annoyed when they zombie out in front of it and can’t respond to “what do you want for dinner” type questions.
 

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I don’t like the screen time either, and we limit it. He had zero screen time outside of movies & shows until he was like 4. We also take it away completely if he’s being a shithead or gets in trouble at school.

I try to think back to when I was a kid and I remember playing Nintendo for the entire weekend so I try not to get too mad at the screen time. I remember in 4th or 5th grade I sat down one morning and beat FF1 from a fresh start in a single day.

He is blowing away his school work and reading so I can’t say it’s harmful to his development or anything. It’s just hard not to get annoyed when they zombie out in front of it and can’t respond to “what do you want for dinner” type questions.
Yeah I was the same way. Hard to remember but we ended up with a small TV and the NES in our bedroom at some point.

But even then, we had a selection of video games and that was in until a birthday or Christmas. It wasn't like today where everything is so on-demand.

I sound like a fuckin old man
 
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I need to start following this thread. Interesting stuff just the last couple pages, and learned a couple of things.

I've got a 2.5-year-old, and another coming at the end of February. Both girls. My wife and I are basically glued to our phones or the TV or the computer 24/7, which I think has made an impression on my toddler since she has essentially given very little interest to screen time. She's passively watched quite a few things but is constantly in her own head playing with things. She's watched Jurassic Park already. "I want to watch something scary." "I want to watch dinosaurs." "I want to watch Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman." She knows the entire Justice League already. But again, she doesn't really watch. The only thing she's ever actually sat down and watched with me were the two Home Alone movies. She actually managed to stare at the TV for the first hour of both of those before getting up to do something else.

I grew up with four younger sisters, so as soon as I got a Nintendo at like, 7 or 8 years old, I was glued to that thing. I was the oldest and only boy, so I got my own room. I had a small 10-11" black and white TV hooked up in my bedroom. My rich grandmother would buy me 2-3 games for my birthday and Christmas, with one sprinkled in if we found something at a pawn shop. Needless to say, my screentime was insane. And still is. I was the network admin in our house growing up. 10Base-T with 4+ PC's, using a software gateway to tunnel the internet through my computer on a fuckin' dial-up modem. To no surprise, I finally got into IT after 10 years of avoiding it and trying to make it work in Finance. I tried introducing an old iPhone 4 to the kid with some dated apps that would still run on it, but all she wanted to do was take selfies for about 3 minutes, pretend to talk for a couple of minutes, then set it down to go do something else.

I'm not really going to be too anal about screen time, though my wife wants to have some limits. I wanted to toss a TV in her room so she can have educational stuff playing in the background, but the wife vetoed that. We live in a technological age where everything we do these days is through a screen interface. Like my uncle did for me when I was young by introducing me to PC's and getting me to take PC training courses back when people didn't even know what a modem was, has made a huge difference in my life. Though I do have concerns about "watching 5 hours of Minecraft videos", we'll see what happens when she figures out the technology. The best she can do right now is turn on the TV for me.

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Anyone else's kid sort their toys, or position them in groups in different areas around the house? The other day she lined up all of her LEGO blocks by size and color. Of all of her cousins (ranging between 2 to 6), she's apparently been the most advanced when it comes to speech, and grasping advanced concepts fairly quickly.

Also, that whole toddler meltdown shit is real. Literally nothing you can do but just sit and wait it out. Their brains haven't developed the part that allows them to regulate fight/flight. Generally, it takes about 10 minutes for her to cool off, and it's like an endorphin injection because she's chipper as fuck immediately after. She swings when she's upset or tired. She threw a Barbie at my face and I took it away, she cried for 10 minutes, then asked for some milk and if she could "lay down in my bed and take a nap".
 

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If your son is that far ahead C Captain Suave he might be like I was on school and just bored stiff. I could read a book/magazine all day in class and get an A+ on the test. I was a smarty pants. I'm not bragging though - because that was a disservice as soon as I entered university and got my ass handed to me.

That's the issue, 100%. I was the same way. My second grade teacher suggested to my parents that I be put on Ritalin because I wasn't paying attention (despite high performance). I was just bored. I coasted through school with top marks until I hit a wall with upper level university math. It has taken most of my adult life to realize the wrong ratio of talent to work ethic has cost me some success. I try to reward long-term effort over achievement with my kids. They got a good hand in the genetic lottery and doing well in school is a minimum bar.


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This is a tough one for me. I generally default to minimal screen time for the kids despite that I'm a huge gamer and don't have a problem in abstract. They get a few hours a week of Minecraft, always with me playing alongside, or we'll watch a few episodes of a show together on the weekends. Anything that's too stupid for me to stomach, we don't do. They don't have individual devices and get zero un-curated shows or YouTube. My wife and I cut cable in favor of streaming almost 15 years ago so there's no background TV in our house, but we struggle to be good role models of phone use. I gave my son a Kindle very early and he's a voracious reader.

I think it has served the kids well. They're present in the house in a way that their cousins are not. My wife's sister's kids have their faces plugged into mobile devices all the time and they just look surprised and confused if you try to talk to them. It's weird
 
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I need to start following this thread. Interesting stuff just the last couple pages, and learned a couple of things.

I've got a 2.5-year-old, and another coming at the end of February. Both girls. My wife and I are basically glued to our phones or the TV or the computer 24/7, which I think has made an impression on my toddler since she has essentially given very little interest to screen time. She's passively watched quite a few things but is constantly in her own head playing with things. She's watched Jurassic Park already. "I want to watch something scary." "I want to watch dinosaurs." "I want to watch Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman." She knows the entire Justice League already. But again, she doesn't really watch. The only thing she's ever actually sat down and watched with me were the two Home Alone movies. She actually managed to stare at the TV for the first hour of both of those before getting up to do something else.

I grew up with four younger sisters, so as soon as I got a Nintendo at like, 7 or 8 years old, I was glued to that thing. I was the oldest and only boy, so I got my own room. I had a small 10-11" black and white TV hooked up in my bedroom. My rich grandmother would buy me 2-3 games for my birthday and Christmas, with one sprinkled in if we found something at a pawn shop. Needless to say, my screentime was insane. And still is. I was the network admin in our house growing up. 10Base-T with 4+ PC's, using a software gateway to tunnel the internet through my computer on a fuckin' dial-up modem. To no surprise, I finally got into IT after 10 years of avoiding it and trying to make it work in Finance. I tried introducing an old iPhone 4 to the kid with some dated apps that would still run on it, but all she wanted to do was take selfies for about 3 minutes, pretend to talk for a couple of minutes, then set it down to go do something else.

I'm not really going to be too anal about screen time, though my wife wants to have some limits. I wanted to toss a TV in her room so she can have educational stuff playing in the background, but the wife vetoed that. We live in a technological age where everything we do these days is through a screen interface. Like my uncle did for me when I was young by introducing me to PC's and getting me to take PC training courses back when people didn't even know what a modem was, has made a huge difference in my life. Though I do have concerns about "watching 5 hours of Minecraft videos", we'll see what happens when she figures out the technology. The best she can do right now is turn on the TV for me.

...

Anyone else's kid sort their toys, or position them in groups in different areas around the house? The other day she lined up all of her LEGO blocks by size and color. Of all of her cousins (ranging between 2 to 6), she's apparently been the most advanced when it comes to speech, and grasping advanced concepts fairly quickly.

Also, that whole toddler meltdown shit is real. Literally nothing you can do but just sit and wait it out. Their brains haven't developed the part that allows them to regulate fight/flight. Generally, it takes about 10 minutes for her to cool off, and it's like an endorphin injection because she's chipper as fuck immediately after. She swings when she's upset or tired. She threw a Barbie at my face and I took it away, she cried for 10 minutes, then asked for some milk and if she could "lay down in my bed and take a nap".
In the last couple months the screen time in my house has drastically reduced and what we're seeing in my son is an increase in imagination and he's less of a dick. Lol. If he gets any extra screen time he loves it but if we tell him it's time to do something else he just sucks for at least an hour or 2 after that.
 
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