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Penance

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These assholes need to fix loot and progression fast. Why is it so much to ask to be able to progress your character? Don't we play arpgs to get loot and pull the various levers on our class?

The one thing I said they need to dial in if they slow down the game and it's probably the worst thing about their game right now.
 
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How is this an exploit? The unique tablet says infinite rerolls and other mechanics directly affect reroll cost. Sure, common sense says it's obviously not intended and you should exercise caution, but I think usage of "exploit" is the wrong word. It places blame completely on the players and not at least partially on GGG.

Also, be consistent. Temporalis dupes weren't scrubbed but this shit gets tracked down? What's the difference?
 
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Caliane

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yeah. usually Im pretty harsh on exploits are exploits. but man, its literally written right on the item. its working exactly as intended. the dev team is just horribly shortsighted, and doing zero q/a.
the tablet, and towers did exactly what they said they would.

temporalis was more of an "exploit" as noted. making use of larger indirect, unintended mechanics.
 
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Like fun. Fun needs to have a downside.
ALLLLLLLLL COMBAT NEEDS TO BE MEANINGFUL!! EVERY SINGLE BLOW AGAINST THE THOUSANDS OF WHITE MONSTERS YOU FACE SHOULD HAVE WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Such a fucking retarded concept. Soulslikes are meaningful because of their BOSSES - that's where your "weight" should be. Sure, there are a few outlier "white mob" fights in a Souls game, but for the most part you mow that shit down. Even in a game like ER, where you aren't killing literally thousands of them in an hour long gaming session.
 
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Penance

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How is this an exploit? The unique tablet says infinite rerolls and other mechanics directly affect reroll cost. Sure, common sense says it's obviously not intended and you should exercise caution, but I think usage of "exploit" is the wrong word. It places blame completely on the players and not at least partially on GGG.

Also, be consistent. Temporalis dupes weren't scrubbed but this shit gets tracked down? What's the difference?

L after L, how do they do it?
 

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How is this an exploit? The unique tablet says infinite rerolls and other mechanics directly affect reroll cost. Sure, common sense says it's obviously not intended and you should exercise caution, but I think usage of "exploit" is the wrong word. It places blame completely on the players and not at least partially on GGG.

Also, be consistent. Temporalis dupes weren't scrubbed but this shit gets tracked down? What's the difference?


Testing game in early access, get banned combining reduced reroll cost with the tablet that gives you infinite rerolls.

Of course it's not really early access. I get that. This is a live service game that launched in December and you don't want people nuking the economy. It's just funny that we're still pretending it's early access.
 
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With the minion hot fix and all the HP nerf patches plus going all out chaos damage its now quite easy to clear shit. No idea how good the minions really are now compared to 0.1 but will be going spectres anyway soon. Seems skeletons still suck at maps.
 

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Early Access is just the new thing for game companies to try and hide behind, to excuse their absolute dogshit QA practices - it's mostly there as a "shield" for criticism.
 
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Mahes

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With the minion hot fix and all the HP nerf patches plus going all out chaos damage its now quite easy to clear shit. No idea how good the minions really are now compared to 0.1 but will be going spectres anyway soon. Seems skeletons still suck at maps.
Chaos appears to be the lich way more than minions. Minions for the most part help to tank the mobs, while Chaos reigns.
 
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With the minion hot fix and all the HP nerf patches plus going all out chaos damage its now quite easy to clear shit. No idea how good the minions really are now compared to 0.1 but will be going spectres anyway soon. Seems skeletons still suck at maps.

The nerfs were so numerous and so large than giving level 30 minions 79% more damage (from where they are right now) might not be enough for mapping.
 

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ALLLLLLLLL COMBAT NEEDS TO BE MEANINGFUL!! EVERY SINGLE BLOW AGAINST THE THOUSANDS OF WHITE MONSTERS YOU FACE SHOULD HAVE WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Such a fucking retarded concept. Soulslikes are meaningful because of their BOSSES - that's where your "weight" should be. Sure, there are a few outlier "white mob" fights in a Souls game, but for the most part you mow that shit down. Even in a game like ER, where you aren't killing literally thousands of them in an hour long gaming session.

The other thing about the Souls games is that you can purposefully overlevel either yourself or your gear to make up for not being good at fast-twitch aspects of the game. This does not exist in PoE2 as you are gated by XP penalties and item levels. It is insane for them to think they could port over some of the systems without all of the concession that FromSoft gives to make the game interesting.
 
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Early Access is just the new thing for game companies to try and hide behind, to excuse their absolute dogshit QA practices - it's mostly there as a "shield" for criticism.
Yep, just a phrase to get away with launching the game unfinished and still get people to pay-to-beta-test. Guessing 2+ years before we get all classes and weapon types.
 

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Wasn’t it possible to get zero reroll cost combined with infinite rerolls? Does anyone seriously think that was intended. To sit there for 36 hours just rerolling until you get mirrors to defer?they don’t need to provide exemptions to players based on technicalities of ‘well they put it in!’. This was an obvious fucking bug, and knowingly abusing it means you should get banned. They fucked up with temporalis not coming down hard on people, I’m glad they’re not being stupid again with that.

this doesn’t forgive the fact such a stupid thing was let into the game due to lack of playtesting, but it still should be punished if players exploited it
 

Penance

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Wasn’t it possible to get zero reroll cost combined with infinite rerolls? Does anyone seriously think that was intended. To sit there for 36 hours just rerolling until you get mirrors to defer?they don’t need to provide exemptions to players based on technicalities of ‘well they put it in!’. This was an obvious fucking bug, and knowingly abusing it means you should get banned. They fucked up with temporalis not coming down hard on people, I’m glad they’re not being stupid again with that.

this doesn’t forgive the fact such a stupid thing was let into the game due to lack of playtesting, but it still should be punished if players exploited it
It's early access. Maybe a 24 hour ban to let people know they're being watched but these are the exact type of people that you want in EA breaking your game.

Also this is why they need to reset the economy more often. Stop treating this as release
 
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Chaos appears to be the lich way more than minions. Minions for the most part help to tank the mobs, while Chaos reigns.
yea that's my gameplay so far. i'm at the end of act 3 and i've smooth one shot every single encounter so far including both trials.

i'm doing despair (with the damage support on it), ED, contagion, then 2 entropy totems.

i have 2 bug queens shitting bugs to fuck with the ai of shit i fight and i can roll back into the fat queens to escape being surrounded. zero investment in minion skills or powers. though i do have a +30 percent minion scepter in my main hand (with the ES aura).
 

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It's early access. Maybe a 24 hour ban to let people know they're being watched but these are the exact type of people that you want in EA breaking your game.

Also this is why they need to reset the economy more often. Stop treating this as release
I agree with this take. You want people in there breaking the game now, so that it can be fixed.

With the glacial pace of updates being made, I wouldn't be against the idea that they turn the currency loot up x10, so that people can play around with the crafting system, since that's what everyone is trading for now...is currency to craft.

This gives a ton of people access to systems to test, versus it being in a relative few small hands due to " economy ".
 

Penance

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I agree with this take. You want people in there breaking the game now, so that it can be fixed.

With the glacial pace of updates being made, I wouldn't be against the idea that they turn the currency loot up x10, so that people can play around with the crafting system, since that's what everyone is trading for now...is currency to craft.

This gives a ton of people access to systems to test, versus it being in a relative few small hands due to " economy ".
Turn up the loot? Brother we don't even get free respecs in the passive tree.

But I agree. Now should be the time you accelerate progression for testing sake and reset often and change often.
 

Caliane

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Wasn’t it possible to get zero reroll cost combined with infinite rerolls? Does anyone seriously think that was intended. To sit there for 36 hours just rerolling until you get mirrors to defer?they don’t need to provide exemptions to players based on technicalities of ‘well they put it in!’. This was an obvious fucking bug, and knowingly abusing it means you should get banned. They fucked up with temporalis not coming down hard on people, I’m glad they’re not being stupid again with that.

this doesn’t forgive the fact such a stupid thing was let into the game due to lack of playtesting, but it still should be punished if players exploited it
Time lost jewels giving 100% increased to nodes, when they said 10% increased to the added stats, is a bug.
reseting the instance, allowing temporalis to be farmed is an oversight in unrelated game mechanics.

Temporalis giving a flat 3-4s cd, reducing cooldowns to zero, is GGG being retarded.
towers and map doing exactly what it says it would do, is ggg being retarded.

People juiced their maps and got the value down to zero.
no different then if you had 100% reduced cooldown in the game, and reduced cooldowns to zero. (they swapped to cooldown recovery rate for a reason)

juicing maps is what you are supposed to do.
find a new OP interaction. and worry you are going to get banned for it?
farming the beettle? farming op tame beast spawns?
 

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The other thing about the Souls games is that you can purposefully overlevel either yourself or your gear to make up for not being good at fast-twitch aspects of the game. This does not exist in PoE2 as you are gated by XP penalties and item levels. It is insane for them to think they could port over some of the systems without all of the concession that FromSoft gives to make the game interesting.
30 Rock Fellow Kids GIF by Peacock


It's literally this meme.

"Hey, kids! I heard you like Souls games! I, too, like Souls games!" - Said 50 other game development companies who have no fucking idea what makes Souls games so fun/successful, or even asking the question if it can exist in the same capacity at all in the ARPG genre.
 
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