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My friend was asking me about Lost ARK yesterday. From what he told me, it doesn't sound like it has expanded much beyond Russia and Korea. He knows I play PoE, so he commented on some things he liked more in Lost ARK than PoE: gameplay, UI, polish, art style. I can't disagree with some of those, but rather than debate him on those grounds, I instead explained what I like about poe.
Planning a build in pob and then verifying it works in poe.
He response was that doesn't sound fun. I then spent far too long basically explaining power creep and gameplay speed up has led to building around completely eliminating threats instead of dodging them while playing(outside of learned boss fights).
It's obvious GGG is trying to slow the game down since a large portion of newer skills are 1-2 combos. I can't say they're succeeding since they seem to have refused to learn their lesson from Delirium and gone back to relying on one-shots to keep player speed in check instead of just making monsters live longer.
My question: does slowing down the game also lower the required build complexity? I'm thinking something D3, I never put the same amount of time into planning a build because you simply didn't need to.
Planning a build in pob and then verifying it works in poe.
He response was that doesn't sound fun. I then spent far too long basically explaining power creep and gameplay speed up has led to building around completely eliminating threats instead of dodging them while playing(outside of learned boss fights).
It's obvious GGG is trying to slow the game down since a large portion of newer skills are 1-2 combos. I can't say they're succeeding since they seem to have refused to learn their lesson from Delirium and gone back to relying on one-shots to keep player speed in check instead of just making monsters live longer.
My question: does slowing down the game also lower the required build complexity? I'm thinking something D3, I never put the same amount of time into planning a build because you simply didn't need to.
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Kythik
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I'm not sure GGG even knows what they want. In one league, they changed the old Tora mission mobs because it was making HH too accessible. Yet, they made other changes and within a year nearly half the characters had a HH. I'm not sure if it's just reactionary development or a result of at least two teams with different ideas. Both?
But, speed is the most interesting part of the meta. I'm not sure what would replace it.
But, speed is the most interesting part of the meta. I'm not sure what would replace it.
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dizzie
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Slowing the game down isn't really a good thing at this point as we've become accustomed to just blazing through maps.
If they want to slow the game down, they should make poe 2 a slower version with harder bosses that require significantly more effort in the tree and gear (if they make it less RNG ). I don't think they want to kill the speed meta as it'd wreck the game too much and even then I think it's probably too late to slow it now.
I love to have really hard mobs like Grim Dawn has in PoE 2, with designs where you have to incorporate accessible elements from the tree to complete some of them. Think raid mobs but scaled down to a single player environment. Some monsters in Grim Dawn are like raid mobs in that you need to gear right up to even pull them to learn the mechanics.
If they want to slow the game down, they should make poe 2 a slower version with harder bosses that require significantly more effort in the tree and gear (if they make it less RNG ). I don't think they want to kill the speed meta as it'd wreck the game too much and even then I think it's probably too late to slow it now.
I love to have really hard mobs like Grim Dawn has in PoE 2, with designs where you have to incorporate accessible elements from the tree to complete some of them. Think raid mobs but scaled down to a single player environment. Some monsters in Grim Dawn are like raid mobs in that you need to gear right up to even pull them to learn the mechanics.
Caeden
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That won’t work though. Poe2 is just an alternative leveling path with an additional 19 ascendancies. Unless you literally break apart the game and stop adding content to poe1 and rip the endgame away, speed will rule and poe1 will be faster to level in then.
they both spill Into the same endgame, and my guess is they’ll allow any ascendancy to play either campaign. I really think they’re setting themselves up for an utter mess, but they’re smart guys and gals. Surely they have realized that. The speed genie is out of the bottle and that’s their appeal. It’s not going away.
they both spill Into the same endgame, and my guess is they’ll allow any ascendancy to play either campaign. I really think they’re setting themselves up for an utter mess, but they’re smart guys and gals. Surely they have realized that. The speed genie is out of the bottle and that’s their appeal. It’s not going away.
Pasteton
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I haven’t been this pumped for a league since maybe 3.0, there’s so much shit here. Just trying to start to brainstorm the meta ; what makes sense to spec out first, probably the syndicate passive tree? Generally betrayal crafts are the hotness the first week or so. Cant go wrong with legion too I suppose but that has more lasting power I think
Fogel
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If they slowed the game down but increased drop rates accordingly I think it would be better received. And release a fucking auction house already. Trading is literally the only thing I hate about PoE at this point. Sure it's gotten better but that's no excuse.
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Development Manifesto - Game Balance in Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.
www.pathofexile.com
Hahahahaha, get fucked aura stackers. Better later than never and I don't necessarily agree with how they did it, but still something that was very much needed.
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AladainAF
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I don't mind the current way of trading, but they need to integrate it into the game itself. What they require you to do now is stupid.
You should be able to have full functionality of poe overlay, as well as a suite of trading tools, within poe itself. You can do this without making an actual auction house.
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AladainAF
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Development Manifesto - Game Balance in Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.
Hahahahaha, get fucked aura stackers. Better later than never and I don't necessarily agree with how they did it, but still something that was very much needed.
cutedog last night was going on and on about how they were never going to nerf this lmao.
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Apostolos
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My favorite build looks like it got a slight nerf as there is no ascendancy node in hierophant that drops 2 totems at once anymore. Hoping it gets moved into the passive tree and can still be a thing
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bleedat
I would agree completely with what Dizzie said. Max Block Bleed Gladiator is a great setup to start with. It is even one I have been thinking about using myself this league due to how high its survivability is. We still need to see what changes are going to hit. Its either that, a specter build Ive never tried before or totem build if the changes don't screw it up. The targeted farming possibilities with the atlas changes look to be amazing. I am thinking I may try for my first 100 this league. I always seem to putter out around 94-96
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bleedat
I would agree completely with what Dizzie said. Max Block Bleed Gladiator is a great setup to start with. It is even one I have been thinking about using myself this league due to how high its survivability is. We still need to see what changes are going to hit. Its either that, a specter build Ive never tried before or totem build if the changes don't screw it up. The targeted farming possibilities with the atlas changes look to be amazing. I am thinking I may try for my first 100 this league. I always seem to putter out around 94-96- 1
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Derkon
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dizzie
Triggered Happy
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My favorite build looks like it got a slight nerf as there is no ascendancy node in hierophant that drops 2 totems at once anymore. Hoping it gets moved into the passive tree and can still be a thing
Also..@bleedat I would agree completely with what Dizzie said. Max Block Bleed Gladiator is a great setup to start with. It is even one I have been thinking about using myself this league due to how high its survivability is. We still need to see what changes are going to hit. Its either that, a specter build Ive never tried before or totem build if the changes don't screw it up. The targeted farming possibilities with the atlas changes look to be amazing. I am thinking I may try for my first 100 this league. I always seem to putter out around 94-96
Once you get a recover life on block shield it's so great on that build, you're pretty much unkillable except for the hardest mobs.
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