Path of Exile

Done with the league as well, got my 36.

Exsanguinate was a pretty fun skill but dangerous in terms of mechanics power creep. I don't believe we have another skill that can chain and high amount of parallel hits. Tornado Shot maybe? And it got nerfed for kinda the same reason.

I didn't try Reap. Nothing I saw or heard maid me interested except for its single target damage with Awakened Spell Cascade.

Corrupting Fever is the real star. A global dot to any hit, spell, attack, secondary, whatever, is quite powerful. This enables slapping abilities together without having to play 1-2 combos. In terms of a 4L, it sucks. But if you focus on gem levels to ~30, 6L, you can get get quite good clearing DPS. Your single target will be just ok, but there are certain levels of investment you can do to shore that up. I did the Feared with maybe 4M dps? I foresee this being a real issue when the meta figures it out and it gets a couple more real supports. Lifetap is a shitty support.

League mechanic was mostly miss. If you played a build with the defenses and mobility to ignore most of the mechanics and stacked rares, it was fun to the point of absurdity how fast you could murder reinforcements. Stone Circles sucked and took too long. Survival took too long. Skipped both towards the end. Trialmaster occurrence rate was ridiculously low, glad I didn't have to do his achievements.

PERFORMANCE ISSUES.

Just a lot of repeated mistakes this league. And future mistakes. Ultimatum will go core and the sunk cost fallacy will continue to eat my GPU's memory.

Was never a huge fan of harvest, but I will admit I found myself saying that I could fix a few pieces of gear with harvest. Never saw one augment or annul in 200 seed plots. Just remove the fucking thing at this point, it's less rewarding than Breach and one of the top sources of rips.

Lightning Lord Rule only 7 this time! And really, does a level 56 count?

Keeping content in the game is at least part of the reason why the game's performance sucks. It's also why the game is so daunting to new players.

Merging leagues into the base game is not free.


I don't agree about Harvest being that powerful. At least, an intuitive "out of the box" standpoint. I did the 200 seed plots challenge, 0 annuls or slams. So I approached it from a "how can I use these right now?" standpoint and they were mostly garbage. I think requiring people to have multiple complex in-flight crafting projects in order to get value out of a whole league's content means there's a major design flaw. If I could store 50-100 crafts, I think Harvest would be much better.

Mr Creed said:

Keeping content in the game with a long term plan to give players decisions and options shouldn't come at a performance cost. Whatever leagues you spawn into your map should be measured and paced appropriately - but with player input so you have more influence on which content you engage with.

However, throwing everything on an ever-growing pile of spaghetti code without a second thought does incur performance issues, and that's what they are doing. I think they've been excusing their mess with "Poe2 soon" for what, 3 years now? That's half the time it takes to make an actually brand-new PoE2 instead of a big 4.0 patch, and by the time we actually get that patch they could've made an entire new game.

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Exactly. Until they demonstrate that they know how to mitigate the long term costs of coring leagues, I'm going to argue for removing some of the less valuable stuff.

Xevy said:

Maybe I'm the luckiest man in the world, but I've gotten:

1 Fracture 5
2 6 link Harvest
1 remove non-life add life
1 Aug with lucky values (no specific type)
2 Synth
Probably 10+ reroll suffix/prefix

I mostly ran Atoll, but I only used Harvest in the map itself once. I also didn't shape my Atlas in any way, I just favorited Atoll and ran them when I was spawning Conqs. I don't sell the stuff I make unless it's something I happen onto and won't use in a build, but from Harvest I probably made somewhere between 75 and 150 ex in items. +3 minion helms, devastator two or three prop clusters, god minion clusters, curse on hit rings, +1 curse crit/crit chests, 600 PDPS staffs (without any attack speed).

I've also seen 8 trial masters so who knows. I've only got maybe 7ish days played this entire league. Maybe 8 or 9, but I have one character at almost 4 days played and two others at 2-3ish each. Removing Harvest because it doesn't have enough annuls/slams is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Just because it was the absolute most overpowered crafting option available doesn't mean its worthless because it's not anymore.

And if people don't like Harvest, don't fucking go into it. Problem solved.

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How much money would you make if the gear you created wasn't inflated and obfuscated by the playerbase's unwillingness to participate in shitty systems(trade, crafting, stop mapping) and/or general lack of knowledge to do so?

The latter part of your post is strawman garbage.

So you're ok with people cornering aspects of the market, the Mathil effect, and flippers?

It's not always about the money, Spiderman.

Market valuation was your argument. Perhaps shame on me to expect you to have a good faith discussion. My counter point was what would you think of Harvest if you couldn't make as much money from it?

Cadden made a bunch of money from Heist this league. As did I. We're both still down on that league's content.

I let many exalts rot last league because I could not be arsed to sell any of the valuable enchants I got from Harvest.

Xevy said:

If you read my post it says I didn't make money from it. I made items valued at that, but I rarely sold anything from Harvest. I don't play the game to collect currency, I play the game to play the game.

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Fair enough, I'll admit I misremembered that part. I still think the heart of my point is valid though. Regardless selling the gear or not, if you self-priced the gear lower because that's what it was worth on the open market, would that change your opinion of Harvest?

The SSF argument makes no sense. That's like telling me to ask someone dying of thirst what they think of water while I have that shit coming out of multiple pipes in my house. Harvest is the wet moldy sponge.