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zombiewizardhawk
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You can get "good" items for less than 10c easy still. You can't get good items for that price tho, and haven't been able to for years. It only takes a little bit of a difference (especially on boots) to go from 5c to 55c. Level req has almost no meaningful impact on whether or not an item is "end game" or not once you get above level 40ish since most of the affixes don't have huge level requirements to use them, only ilvl reqs to roll the high tiers.
PS: Massively easier chaos recipe farming than in the past is what I blame for the inflation in things like chaos::exalt ratio but that's the only thing i've noticed any drastic change on in the past couple years.
The Dauntless One
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Maybe currency drop more than before? I played for a few days and probably got over 20C worth of currency.
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I don't think it drops more but I do think we clear way faster than we used to, which increases currency per time played. But it was probably either good boots or some guy thinking they were good boots, you can find decent boots(80life, 1good resist, movespeed and possibly a 2nd not so good resist or a slot for resist craft) for like 2-3chaos. If you're looking at triple resist movespeed life boots, then yeah it's expensive.
Zaphid
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Clear rate went up, exalts are being used more, to run high lvl maps you spent a lot of chaos rerolling, you have labyrinth, but most of all, you can actually trade easily and compare prices.
For the first month or so, everything is really cheap since a lot of people want to unload all the stuff they get ASAP, so they can buy the achievements, at the end you only have the hardcore and really expensive things.
For the first month or so, everything is really cheap since a lot of people want to unload all the stuff they get ASAP, so they can buy the achievements, at the end you only have the hardcore and really expensive things.
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Also of note in the many comments GGG left in the forums/reddit, Chris mentionned the hp of mobs is getting boosted in 2.4. Not sure to what extent, but it should be a bit more challenging again. I mean usually hp doesn't mean challenge, but when you get to the point where everything on your screen, and sometimes even off your screen, dies instantly, you reduce the risk of dying to almost everything dangerous to 0. You're only left with strongboxes fuckery and bearers almost.
Caliane
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"casiadiasa" the only raider.
made some changes to the flicker.
been using warchief. it doesn't protect nearly as much, but it does do a ton of "ranged" dps. kindof silly, considering how its not even linked with anything.
Swapped out the 4l belly of the beast.
put in a shitty 5l armor chest. (not god awful.. 1k armor. just nothing else...) master mod +62 life. decent.
the 5l lets me put fortify in with flicker itself. small offense upgrade. But, the defensive bonus of fortify up all the time, and not needing to try and whirling blades apply it is pretty high.
Other change, is checking the master mods on all my other pieces. big one stood out. had +24 life on my belt. which, was a pretty decent triple resist belt.
Which must have been buffed at some point? lowest you can put on a belt NOW, is +35-44 life. so, I remove, and reapplied that for +64 life.
both life rolls ended up putting me nearly right back at belly of the beast hp anyway.
want a varunastra. Scion life next, then fatalblade/or some other of the shadow crit/1h nodes.
"casiadiasa" the only raider.
made some changes to the flicker.
been using warchief. it doesn't protect nearly as much, but it does do a ton of "ranged" dps. kindof silly, considering how its not even linked with anything.
Swapped out the 4l belly of the beast.
put in a shitty 5l armor chest. (not god awful.. 1k armor. just nothing else...) master mod +62 life. decent.
the 5l lets me put fortify in with flicker itself. small offense upgrade. But, the defensive bonus of fortify up all the time, and not needing to try and whirling blades apply it is pretty high.
Other change, is checking the master mods on all my other pieces. big one stood out. had +24 life on my belt. which, was a pretty decent triple resist belt.
Which must have been buffed at some point? lowest you can put on a belt NOW, is +35-44 life. so, I remove, and reapplied that for +64 life.
both life rolls ended up putting me nearly right back at belly of the beast hp anyway.
want a varunastra. Scion life next, then fatalblade/or some other of the shadow crit/1h nodes.
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I like the footsteps and the portal, the back attachment thing looks terrible unless you want to cosplay an ice elemental.
Some of the challenges look more annoying than usual. The 2nd encounters is pretty fucking awful, it has like ALL the rare shit. Trove, Tormented Embezzler, Inner Treasure, Diviner Strongbox and whatever a rogue templar is. Trove I usually find at least once, Inner Treasure I don't but I don't play that much every league, I don't even know what a Diviner Strongbox is and Tormented Embezzler sounds like a major pain in the ass since it's like RNG on top of RNG, you need to find a rare ghost and then it needs to actually possess something. Some of the other stuff looks dumb too but that one felt way out of place considering what they usually do with these.
Also one good change is clearing objectives in maps only means killing the boss, not fully clearing anymore. Means you don't have to look for that dickhead crab shit under the ground.
Some of the challenges look more annoying than usual. The 2nd encounters is pretty fucking awful, it has like ALL the rare shit. Trove, Tormented Embezzler, Inner Treasure, Diviner Strongbox and whatever a rogue templar is. Trove I usually find at least once, Inner Treasure I don't but I don't play that much every league, I don't even know what a Diviner Strongbox is and Tormented Embezzler sounds like a major pain in the ass since it's like RNG on top of RNG, you need to find a rare ghost and then it needs to actually possess something. Some of the other stuff looks dumb too but that one felt way out of place considering what they usually do with these.
Also one good change is clearing objectives in maps only means killing the boss, not fully clearing anymore. Means you don't have to look for that dickhead crab shit under the ground.
Caliane
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yeah, I didnt really even look at how possible I find each becuase..
I have YET to get a portal effect. I kindof wish they would mix things up a bit more/better.
have like 6 footprints, 5 weapon effects, no portals. 4 boots.. 4 ugly as hell helms.
khalid
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There have been arguments about it in this thread, but I think GGG's obsession recently with cockblocking highend players at the cost of more casual players is hurting the game. Slowing down the exceptionally few players that get to 100 by making map drops rarer and increasing xp penalty just makes more "casual" players frustrated when they hit streaks of bad maps or stop leveling when it becomes ridiculously tedious post-90.
I don't think it should be a struggle to be running higher-tier maps. I gathered statistics on 1000s of map runs in previous leagues, at one point running hundreds of maps quad-chiselled and then corrupted. Even then the drop rates weren't sustainable past tier 11ish or so. I hope these changes make it better than that. The fact that their initial idea was to nerf map drops 30% across the board and then add a bonus later makes me worried. Will see how it shakes out.
Byr
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The problem they have is that they dont reward challenging mods on maps. Pack size is the end all be all of stats on maps and most of the things its rewarded by can be outright ignored by players, only current mod it belongs on is lower max resists. They need to reward the dangerous mods like crit rate/crit multi, added elemental damage, etc. Risk vs reward is broken in PoE and has been for a while now, GGG seem to not care either.
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Eidal
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I think that's what burns me out every time I play. As a generally solo player who doesn't min-max to the extreme, I've always generated far more profit just mindlessly wiping out easy content as opposed to actually challenging myself (and slowing the clear rate). I'm not sure what the high-end profit generating scene looks like, though.
Zaphid
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That's what the endgame lab is for though ? It is definitely much more punishing than maps.
Every hack n slash has that problem, Diablo 3's optimal farming speed is when you wipe elite packs in about a second or two. The game has few design issues for more difficult content - you get very little feedback on how and why you died, no combat log, nothing. Second is that it's better for the players to quit of boredom, those people can be lured back by any new content to fuck around for a few weeks, maybe they buy some stuff before they quit again and so the cycle continues. These games tend to have really hardcore community, unless they also spend a lot of money, you can easily chase away the profitable playerbase. This however also works again the breadth of playstyles present in the community (I like to call it the "Hammerdin effect") where if you don't run meta shit into the ground, you are not playing the game right. IIRC they mentioned some obscure Ice spear build that like one guy figured out and was almost broken, but since he didn't write a guide, nobody knew. They also need you to upgrade the shit out of your maps, since the players are getting really good at generating currency, so I think I'll reserve my opinion until I see how all the new map stuff plays out.
Every hack n slash has that problem, Diablo 3's optimal farming speed is when you wipe elite packs in about a second or two. The game has few design issues for more difficult content - you get very little feedback on how and why you died, no combat log, nothing. Second is that it's better for the players to quit of boredom, those people can be lured back by any new content to fuck around for a few weeks, maybe they buy some stuff before they quit again and so the cycle continues. These games tend to have really hardcore community, unless they also spend a lot of money, you can easily chase away the profitable playerbase. This however also works again the breadth of playstyles present in the community (I like to call it the "Hammerdin effect") where if you don't run meta shit into the ground, you are not playing the game right. IIRC they mentioned some obscure Ice spear build that like one guy figured out and was almost broken, but since he didn't write a guide, nobody knew. They also need you to upgrade the shit out of your maps, since the players are getting really good at generating currency, so I think I'll reserve my opinion until I see how all the new map stuff plays out.
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Since they ended prophecy league and all stashes are linked now etc I'm just curious how the system works. Right now all the gear I had in my prophecy league character's stash has been moved into "Remove Only" tabs; do those tabs ever go away or is it safe enough to leave stuff I have no pressing need for in them?
Caliane
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nope. stay until you move the stuff out yourself.
you can move the tabs themselves around. you can rename, and recolor if premium.
But you can't organize the items within. trying to, picks the item up, thus removes from the remove only, and can't be put back in.
your hideout and masters were merged as well.
the highest master exp is kept. lower ones lost. hideout with the most decorations places is kept. Others are removed, and all deco placed into a "remove only' tab.
you can move the tabs themselves around. you can rename, and recolor if premium.
But you can't organize the items within. trying to, picks the item up, thus removes from the remove only, and can't be put back in.
your hideout and masters were merged as well.
the highest master exp is kept. lower ones lost. hideout with the most decorations places is kept. Others are removed, and all deco placed into a "remove only' tab.
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Byr
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Patch notes are out and apparently to long to post to these forums, 10k character limit ftl.
Forum - Patch Notes - Path of Exile 2.4.0: Atlas of Worlds Patch Notes - Path of Exile
All in all, the things that needed to get hit were hit. Im sorry to see Warchief totems didnt get nerfed because they are still a little too good. Going to be seeing a lot of them this league I bet.
Forum - Patch Notes - Path of Exile 2.4.0: Atlas of Worlds Patch Notes - Path of Exile
All in all, the things that needed to get hit were hit. Im sorry to see Warchief totems didnt get nerfed because they are still a little too good. Going to be seeing a lot of them this league I bet.
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Thanks for this answer. Another question regarding the hideout though...no longer have the option to visit a hideout from waypoints. I used the /hideout command and it said "This player has no hideout in this league." The masters that I had invited to my hideout are no where to be found (Haku, for instance, is not sitting in Lioneye's Watch). So how do I get these masters back? Also none of the masters that are still sitting in various towns give me the option to create a hideout