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Dabamf_sl

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My discharger is up to lvl 75 now on SC. Definitely the most fun build I've ever played. It's the same as Kripp's build minus the bottom part of the tree. I subbed in more damage nodes and just use Eye of Chayula for anti-stun. I just went CI yesterday. Even though my chest is only 550ES, no 5L Searing Touch for life leech, and no Vaal Pact yet, I feel 10 times more sturdy than I was with life (granted, I was some horrible life/ES hybrid build because I didn't want to spend a shitload of regrets when I went CI). The damage is preposterous.

Name is BroDoYouEvenDischarge. Friend me and lets do some maps. I hate pug maps groups.
 
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Dabamf_sl said:
My discharger is up to lvl 75 now on SC. Definitely the most fun build I've ever played. It's the same as Kripp's build minus the bottom part of the tree. I subbed in more damage nodes and just use Eye of Chayula for anti-stun. I just went CI yesterday. Even though my chest is only 550ES, no 5L Searing Touch for life leech, and no Vaal Pact yet, I feel 10 times more sturdy than I was with life (granted, I was some horrible life/ES hybrid build because I didn't want to spend a shitload of regrets when I went CI). The damage is preposterous.

Name is BroDoYouEvenDischarge. Friend me and lets do some maps. I hate pug maps groups.
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What is your IGN? I'm on most nights, soloing maps, duoing sometimes. I have a 79 sporker, 79 FP shadow, 75 LA that I never play. Would like to talk about ur build too, my next builds a discharger, only mid 20s ATM. Hoping I get time to level it up some before they nerf it, they look fun.

Derp, sorry saw your name after I posted, that's what I get for posting tired. I'll toss a friend req when I get on late tonight. I'm EST btw.
 
zombiewizardhawk

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My LA ranger on default is up to lvl 62 or 63 now, working on finishing up A2 merci. Hardest part of this game for me is figuring out what eq makes for decent upgrades and trying not to get ripped off in trades (and sticking with a character, lol). Sitting at 75/75/75/-60 resists atm with like 1400dps on LA but at this point I think i'm going to need 5+ exalteds to upgrade any piece of gear. Was running resolute technique til last night but I feel like it's a waste with an ele build since I need crits to get those status effects (right?).

Heard last night that they might be buffing rangers up soon so that might be nice.
 
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The ranger area is getting reworked, but with the main intent of making melee more viable in that area. They said 90% of rangers use Bows.
 
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I agree, but as long as they don't fuck up the ranged half of it, ranged will still be viable. I think the concern is the melee half of that area is poorly designed enough that no one utilizes it.
 
Pyros

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They might improve the ranged area too, but yeah mostly the point is to make it so the melee area, that already exists, isn't as shitty anymore. They could instead decide to remove it entirely and make ranger ranged only, but that's a step backwards however you look at it. It's not like making the witch area melee at all, because the witch area isn't melee oriented to begin with, however half of the ranger starting area is basically melee shit already and has been for a long time, it's just fairly weak and most players who pick rangers for melee chars only do so for cosmetics, because it's a woman or because the duellist looks like a flaming homo and the shadow is a bit too far from the duellist area.

They also said new skills are coming in the next few weeks, they're preparing a new batch to put on alpha to test.
 
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Dabamf_sl

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Wizardhawk_sl said:
at this point I think i'm going to need 5+ exalteds to upgrade any piece of gear.
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I find this really hard to believe. You're either preposterously twinked from running maps for months, or this is way off. These days on standard, gear is really cheap and easy to come by.
 
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It's not worth trying too hard to get the best deal etc. Gear in standard is so common now you're much more likely to net a better yield by buying quickly and getting back to farming currency , rather than spending more time trying to squeeze the most bang for your buck, unless youre talking about gear in the high gcp - ex range.

Example - the other day I decided I wanted gloves with high Es quantity. On standard now, with the item searcher you can find instantly just about anything you're looking for. I probably overpaid for it but i got i wanted immediately, have my upgrade and have made back most of that currency already from maps
 
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Dabamf_sl said:
I find this really hard to believe. You're either preposterously twinked from running maps for months, or this is way off. These days on standard, gear is really cheap and easy to come by.
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5+ was a bit of an exaggeration but with my luck on drops and finding currency it might as well be 5+. Maybe it's just bad luck from the trade chats I end up in and maybe I should just shop the forums. Everything I see spammed through trade that I would consider an upgrade is 2+ exalteds. Decent Lioneye's seem to be ~5-7 usually, 5l or 6l Carcass Jacks seem to be 3+ (haven't seen too many in the last week or so tho), etc.
 
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Wizardhawk_sl said:
5+ was a bit of an exaggeration but with my luck on drops and finding currency it might as well be 5+. Maybe it's just bad luck from the trade chats I end up in and maybe I should just shop the forums. Everything I see spammed through trade that I would consider an upgrade is 2+ exalteds. Decent Lioneye's seem to be ~5-7 usually, 5l or 6l Carcass Jacks seem to be 3+ (haven't seen too many in the last week or so tho), etc.
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Personally I never use trade chat. I always have it turned off. I found that usinghttp://poe.xyz.is/it is much easier to get deals on the cheap. One of the things things I noticed was just how many shops had items which fit the stats I was looking for and soon realized that people with large shops are just as likely to sell low level items cheap if for no other reason then clearing up space.

(Example) Find this lvl 40 tri-elemental 60 spell damage wand is worth an exalted but they will sell it to you for a single chaos if you are just polite. And if they don't then don't even waste time haggling as there are a dozen other wands from people who are online right now that are still pretty good at lvl 40.

Here is a betterexamplethese are the lvl 50 ES helms (sort by shield). The one at the top is 200 ES and the guy is selling it for 3-5 GCPs. Now scroll down and you see a helm for 114 ES that is only 1 chaos and it has LR + Item rarity. Is that other 90 ES worth it? It might be but is it worth that much at lvl 50? I think not.
 
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I inquired about being CI and not taking Eye of Chal, and being told "oh the stun won't be that bad". This was HC advice, but last I played CI I recall not having an Eye was a death sentence. This is for a dagger CI.

I have my eye on a sick ammy for me, but I know the second I freeze mine a pack, whirl in and drop my melee splash puncture and whirl back and forth that one false stun is going to lead to stunlock and a reroll.

Anyone care to comment on the certain death scenario of not taking Eye of Chal as CI in the current build?
 
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I doubt it's viable, unless they added stuff with a lot of stun recovery and even then. Block recovery wouldn't work cause your block% is in general not going to be over 50% if that so you'd still get stun locked. Without Chayula or Unwavering I don't really see it happening.
 
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Yeah that's what I thought. One of the best stats in Diablo2 (if you were a melee and knew wtf was up) was fastest hit recovery.
 
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Nirgon_sl said:
I inquired about being CI and not taking Eye of Chal, and being told "oh the stun won't be that bad". This was HC advice, but last I played CI I recall not having an Eye was a death sentence. This is for a dagger CI.

I have my eye on a sick ammy for me, but I know the second I freeze mine a pack, whirl in and drop my melee splash puncture and whirl back and forth that one false stun is going to lead to stunlock and a reroll.

Anyone care to comment on the certain death scenario of not taking Eye of Chal as CI in the current build?
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I gave it a shot on softcore and it was pretty awful. And that was with a ranged character, a FPer at that, so I can only imagine it'd be even worse for melee. Basically, without immunity, literally half of incoming attacks will stun you. The ES mechanic has a built-in 50% chance to avoid getting stunned, otherwise it would be every single attack. You will get stunlocked on a regular basis, and if you're playing hardcore, I wouldn't recommend trying. It was barely playable with a ranged, CC-heavy build. Some people insist that it's fine, but then you look and they're always playing some total easymode shit like dual spork where most game mechanics are irrelevant.
 
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Nirgon_sl said:
Yeah that's what I thought. One of the best stats in Diablo2 (if you were a melee and knew wtf was up) was fastest hit recovery.
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The problem in PoE is you can't find the stat easy. It doesn't pop on most items, pops in small values and competes with better stuff(like ES or life or resists whatever) but mostly the issue is even with a high % recovery, due to CI and stun mechanics you'll still get ministunned all the fucking time if you get swarmed, you'd need like 90% or whatever to make it work. Like if you have multiple layers of protections it might work out alright, like 40% evade > 50% chance to avoid stun from ES > 50%block with high recovery(which you can get via passives easily but you'd probably want 2 entire block recovery nodes which in general have like a 5-6 points cost total to get the prereqs and shit) then > high armor+icy armor shit for dmg reduction+30% stun recovery, you wouldn't get stunned all that much but it feels like so fucking many stats when you also need high ES and shit, vs just using a Chayula or specing so you can get unwavering, that I don't think it's worth it. They might add a new unique like the anti freeze belt they added last patch which counts 66% of your ES for the calculations, which would fix the problem entirely without being Chayula.
 
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Dabamf_sl

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I'm starting to side with those who want an AH for this game. It is just flat out impossible to sell a single item using forums or trade chat without investing an absurd amount of time.

I'm still worried though that there'll be massive deflation like in D3 and you'll suddenly be able to run 75+ maps from 1 exalt worth of gear or something. I think a good compromise would be to allow AH, but have it take half your sale price. That way there is incentive to sell the old fashioned way, it's another currency sink, and it keeps prices from deflating so fast.
 
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Dabamf_sl said:
I find this really hard to believe. You're either preposterously twinked from running maps for months, or this is way off. These days on standard, gear is really cheap and easy to come by.
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Have any experience on a LA ranger? Maybe you could help me figure out what some quality cheap upgrades would be
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Dabamf_sl said:
I'm starting to side with those who want an AH for this game. It is just flat out impossible to sell a single item using forums or trade chat without investing an absurd amount of time.

I'm still worried though that there'll be massive deflation like in D3 and you'll suddenly be able to run 75+ maps from 1 exalt worth of gear or something. I think a good compromise would be to allow AH, but have it take half your sale price. That way there is incentive to sell the old fashioned way, it's another currency sink, and it keeps prices from deflating so fast.
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I made a shop thread in the onslaught shop forum. Periodically I update it with my most recent stashed items. Since adding buyout prices to all my leveling gear (1 alc or 1 chaos) I've been getting a lot more interest. I'm only 61 and have never done maps so I don't have any high end items. Reddit had a really good PSA that pointed out how many people are afraid of bartering and really dislike doing it for fear that they'll be taken advantage of, so put buy-out prices on your shit and you'll get way more attention. The huge majority of people HATE asking to buy something and the seller saying ("offer"). I think a lot of people search only for ONLINE and buyout listed items.

If you aren't aware, poe.xyz.is crawls the forum shop threads very frequently (picked up my bumped shop with prices added in 10 minutes) and this is how a lot of people conduct business. If you're trying to sell something elite like a 6L Shav then make its own thread; for all the other crap just make a shop thread and let the websites crawl it and you'll be fine. Unless you're stashing truckloads of garbage gear that no one would ever buy.

edit:http://poe.xyz.is/tags.htmlis how you tag your shop thread so the websites can automatically add your buyout.
 
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