Patrick Rothfuss Kingkiller Chronicles

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  1. Tantrik Member

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    I was watching his Twitch stream last week. He was playing through Portal for the second time and he starts talking about narrative structure and how a game like Portal, with its puzzles and plot reveals, loses quite a bit after the first play through.

    He then immediately starts explaining that his books are designed so that you get more out of them with multiple readings.

    Not saying I agree, just that your post reminded me of what he had said.
     
  2. Palum Distrusts Banks, Europe DONOR

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    I don't even know what to call him anymore besides a disappointment. The books were more hopeful for future expansion than good and he's failed utterly to capture any momentum and flesh out the universe. What a loser.
     
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    I can't reread the 2nd book anymore than I can reread Penthouse Forum letters. It is 75% absolute garbage and 25% well this could have been great.
     
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    Yeah the second book had some great some stuff (I remember enjoying the showdown with the bandits), but a lot of it was wish fulfillment BS (the whole arc with the fairy chick teaching him to fuck was painful - not surprising, because everything Rothfuss writes about sex or romance is painful) or just tired (the kung fu stuff).
     
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    We just need to mention Denna and the thread will have come full circle again.[​IMG]
     
  6. slippery Well-Known Member DONOR

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    I don't even care to reread the books because the third one is never coming out. Why reread something that isn't going to have a conclusion?
     
  7. moonarchia Well-Known Member

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    I put it in the wish pile with GoT. I want them to finish, because they had such promise, but you never know. At least I can get an annual fix of Jim Butcher and Sanderson.
     
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    About 75% through book 2. It kind of sucks, I will finish it but man this series is not living up to the hype my friend gave it. Best part of book 2 was his time with the Maer and that was only 10-15%

    I really hope this crash course in karate ends soon and he gets back to the Maer in the last quarter of the book. Also, Kvothe relationship with Denna is as annoying as all the hair pulling in WoT.
     
  9. Himeo Well-Known Member

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    Best part of the book is coming up soon. It's the section he used as a short story back in the early 2000's to win the writers of the future award.

    You'll know it when you read it.
     
  10. Vlett Member

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    Damn you guys for having a conversation in this thread.

    I don't disagree with anything that's been said, but I have reread his stuff a few times to prevent forgetting it. I can ignore what bugs me pretty easily and that lets me pay more attention to the ideas that I missed the first time through.

    I think he enjoys being a popular author more than he desires to keep writing. Blocks don't even begin to explain the bullshit time delay with book 3. I'll still buy it anyway.
     
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    At this point I would respect him more if he just had Kvothe pull an unreliable narrator and informed Chronicler that he was just pulling his leg that night and proceeded to tell him the true story of what happened during the time frame of book two. I'm sure it would be easier to start again fresh than to make all of that nonsense not stink up the rest of the story without just ignoring that it ever happened.
     
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    Found some time today to finish it, not sure where I rate it. Somewhere between 6.5 and 7.5 out of 10. What bugs me is the way he sometimes over explains scenes/settings/actions to the point where I want put the book down and then other times he just glosses over stuff in the laziest if ways. "I won't bore you with the details, even thought I just spent 4 paragraphs describing a flower."

    I had the same issue with Anne Rice when I read her Vampire books over a decade ago.

    All in all it was okay, do I want to find out what happens next? Sure, but it will be a much easier wait than waiting on George RR Martin. I mostly blame my disappointment on my old friend/co-worker for hyping the fuck out these books to me about 3 years ago.


    EDIT: I don't mean to belittle Rothfuss, god knows he has more writing talent then me. I wish I could write a book, I have had the same 2 or 3 ideas bouncing around my head for over a decade but I have no idea how to get them on paper and flesh them out.
     
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    No, go ahead and belittle him. He's dead to me.

    Honestly, it's a bit clever in the 'narration of a narration' inception bullshit game he has going on in the series because he can always just handwave away any criticism "oh I didn't write that, Chronicler did llolololol' for most of the struggling pieces in the book.
     
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    Im glad other people have issues with him. The first book started off so well and I easily forgave some of his shit because the overall story was still quite good. Then...he wrote the second book. Considering the massive quantity of time between books, his claim that the trilogy was 'already written'(but can't seem to finish it) and his general disinterest in his own story; I'll read his books but I'll get them later at a discount.

    Oblio, I feel the same way. I have some ideas but they've never been fleshed out and so I know it's an accomplishment to do what he's done. I still think he went from a potential top talent to just a bit above average very quickly(between two books).
     
  15. Oblio 867-5309 DONOR

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    Has he actually said/used that Chronicler excuse? If so /vomit
     
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    Fuck if I know, I haven't watched him for all 3482 hours of him replaying Portal and Fallout NV or whatever and not writing at all. But he could!
     
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    Quite frankly I'm surprised a publisher doesn't have his balls in a noose at this point.
     
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    'Kingkiller Chronicle' Finds Its Writer (Exclusive)

    "Lindsey Beer, one of the writers who is working on Transformers 5, has been tapped to adapt the first book of Patrick Rothfuss? best-selling fantasy trilogy The Kingkiller Chronicle for Lionsgate."


    Working on Transformers 5? Also working on Barbie....Well I'm totally on board...


    Fuck.
     
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    That article was posted 11 days too late, right?
     
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    Another thing to remind myself why my opinion of Rothfuss at this point is "fuck this guy".