Amzin
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I'm not defending snipers at all. It's a dickish, lame thing to do. But to say "no special treatment" when X guy gets banned in 20 minutes after being accused of stream sniping (with no visual proof of it, still) is special fucking treatment. Not to mention that banning for it, in general is a pretty ridiculous stance to take considering it's happening 100% out of the control of the game company anyway.
Could someone be arrested for finding and saying "hi" to a IRL streamer that broadcasts his exact plans and locations in a public place? No, that would be fucking dumb. You would only go after that someone if they became troublesome. That's the only time stream sniping should be bannable, is if it's a clear, repeat offender.
I dunno if the Apex person ever got banned even (they never participated in the reddit posts) so it could be a case where the actual stream sniper never even got punished.
As with every "drama" instance related to PUBG the past two weeks, the incident itself isn't the biggest problem, it's the policies, reactions, attitudes, and mentality of the PUBG devs / admins that are a huge issue. Although randomly getting banned for killing a streamer IS a huge fucking red flag, and Grimmz saying he's gotten several (many?) people banned over the past few months for sniping is also a red flag.
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If you think that is seriously what resulted in a random fucking admin banning a guy less than 20 minutes after the supposed sniping (which again, all video and evidence provided so far shows the guy to be innocent) in the middle of the night, than you are insane. If you think this is somehow in line with their supposed policy of "no special treatment", you are insane. If you don't think streamers themselves can be held liable at all for the results of their behavior, you are insane.
In fact, if I was a rando teamed up with a popular streamer and we got stream sniped because of the streamer, I would hold him as guilty as the sniper. He's literally just providing all information about his teams' movements to anybody.
If streamers want that real-time interactivity with their chat, they have to accept responsibility for the cost. Stream sniping is a dick thing to do, end of story. Deal with it.
Could someone be arrested for finding and saying "hi" to a IRL streamer that broadcasts his exact plans and locations in a public place? No, that would be fucking dumb. You would only go after that someone if they became troublesome. That's the only time stream sniping should be bannable, is if it's a clear, repeat offender.
I dunno if the Apex person ever got banned even (they never participated in the reddit posts) so it could be a case where the actual stream sniper never even got punished.
As with every "drama" instance related to PUBG the past two weeks, the incident itself isn't the biggest problem, it's the policies, reactions, attitudes, and mentality of the PUBG devs / admins that are a huge issue. Although randomly getting banned for killing a streamer IS a huge fucking red flag, and Grimmz saying he's gotten several (many?) people banned over the past few months for sniping is also a red flag.
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If you don't think they can check your data you obviously didn't see their feature they're adding that archives ALL of ALL of the players movements in any given game into a map that you can then watch after the match is over. It's like Halo's forge replays, but 2D on a map. They mentioned and demo'd this months ago, so they're definitely tracking each player and they can easily glance at this shit to see if they really are stream sniping. And stream sniping is griefing, and griefing in this game, like EVERY FPS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS is an actionable offense
If you think that is seriously what resulted in a random fucking admin banning a guy less than 20 minutes after the supposed sniping (which again, all video and evidence provided so far shows the guy to be innocent) in the middle of the night, than you are insane. If you think this is somehow in line with their supposed policy of "no special treatment", you are insane. If you don't think streamers themselves can be held liable at all for the results of their behavior, you are insane.
In fact, if I was a rando teamed up with a popular streamer and we got stream sniped because of the streamer, I would hold him as guilty as the sniper. He's literally just providing all information about his teams' movements to anybody.
If streamers want that real-time interactivity with their chat, they have to accept responsibility for the cost. Stream sniping is a dick thing to do, end of story. Deal with it.
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