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Hekotat

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I hate snipers when incorporated incorrectly, such as the shit show that is the instant kill AWP in CS, nothing like a low skill OHK weapon.

I feel like snipers in this game are too easy to use and dominate with, I also have this weird thing where I won't use OP shit in online games, I'm not a faggot like that.
 
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Xevy

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There's two problems with fighting snipers:

One: they're really good shots and you have little to no chance winning unless you can just evade them.

or

Two: most people have fucking the WORST body awareness and stick their fucking head up above cover while hiding and then "WTF HOW! HAX" when they die to it. I watch my squadmates do that dumb shit all the time. That or the classic "lean to the side for 3 seconds staying still while zooming across the landscape" until POP, in your face you're dead.

Never stop moving and never engage in a battle you're outgunned in if you don't have to. I fucking hate watching my Squad get outsniped 3 times in a row and having to revive their stupid fucking asses because they're getting tilted and think they can outshoot some one who's obviously got the upper hand.
 

Vimeseh

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What Xevy said, or you like to run across open ground and not taking the time to utilize cover. Or you get RnG circle fucked and have to go open ground in last couple of circles, which means anyone with an akm and 4/8x scope is going to kill you anyway.
 

Cybsled

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Brighter muzzle flashes won't help you, because unless you want the gun barrel to be a fucking flamethrower, you'll only notice it briefly if you happen to be looking in that direction anyways. Sound is key, because a lot of players confuse the bullet snap sound with the actual weapon shot sound. They tried to make the sound more or less realistic, so you will hear the bullet snap first, then the sound from the gun eventually reaches you since most of the rounds are supersonic. As a result, when people are getting shot, they tend to get confused as fuck when they mistake one sound for the other.
 

Sludig

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Re flash, one thing to consider is most people quickly have flash hiders on their guns too.
 

Gravel

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Shit, first squad game since the reset, and we won. Guess we'll be back into high rankings again.

We had been around 8k and it was difficult.
 

gauze

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Man, you have a serious vendetta against snipers heko. I think you hated them in BF1?

I don't know, I find them fine. I struggle using them w/ an 8x though, idk why. I've also outsniped plenty of snipers w/ an 8x Ak, m4, or Scar. It's usually always from another angle when engaged to another group do I get blasted by a kar98, or if its silenced and we're in scramble mode.

I'm only really commenting on 'low skill' ohk awp. You'd be the same people that would cry if I one deag'd the awper and say pistols are too strong XDD
 

Hekotat

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I actually loved the iron sight snipers in BF1, they did a good job making it difficult to get OHKs due to their range mechanics. That and you could play mobile instead of at long range which I find more thrilling and less forgiving.

I snipe better with the SCAR/M4 in this game than the snipers I've used.
 

Amzin

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Like I said before, I disagreed with your opinions, that was my counter-list of why I don't want those things (aside from the window bars which seem universally hated).

I haven't played BF1 but sniper rifles in PUBG are the most balanced of any game I've played by far. They are NOT forgiving, they can be matched or even beaten by AR's if you have good positioning or just are better than the sniper, there's almost 0 OHKs from them in this game, they are the rarest weapons and aside from the kar98 you might not even see them in a given match. Sure, someone with an 8x, cheekpad, and suppressor on a forested hill 700M away from you is probably going to destroy you, but that's like 1% of the 1% type situation. A lot of the top streamers hunt for snipers pretty hard and don't even get them that frequently and rarely kit them out when they do AND miss a fuckton of shots unless the person is just completely unaware they exist and is having a firefight with someone else.

The new sniper actually seems pretty dangerous specifically because it offsets a lot of the drawback of snipers by being high damage semi-auto at range. I know the SKS isn't popular at all but maybe the new one is just better enough to make it obnoxious, it looked like it from the couple clips I've seen so far (although those people still lost to ARs in the end)

To me it definitely reads like no matter what, if snipers exist in the game at all, you will hate on them, regardless of balance and whatever else :p Maybe that's not reality but that's how it comes off and to me that's just unreasonable in a game like PUBG. ARs are the core of the game but snipers, SMGs, and Shotties all fill their role and round out the gameplay nicely (I totally wouldn't mind pistols being buffed even more but I'm a pistol lover in all games)

Edit: Patch is up on test server, that's where I was seeing clips of the new gun. There's some bugs to go along with everything but so far I really like the 1st Person gameplay I'm seeing. I dunno about adding the loot animation to everything though. If they are going to equalize all looting speeds (which I guess is fair) they need to speed it up because it is sluggish.

Edit 2: Mute all hotkey is nice and all but maybe they should fix the fucking volumes so people don't have to use it all the time. Driving around in 1st person is hella loud
 

ronne

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Initial impressions - first person is fucking awful. It's the ARMA-style camera where they just bolted it to your eyes. Weapon models are huge and swing all over the screen in maddening fashion, driving/riding in any kind of car is miserable due to camera shake, head bob is terrible while running, etc.

Lag issues also feel 100000% worse in first person.

Inventory drag+drop is massively nerfed and should basically never be used now.
 
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Hekotat

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Like I said before, I disagreed with your opinions, that was my counter-list of why I don't want those things (aside from the window bars which seem universally hated).

I haven't played BF1 but sniper rifles in PUBG are the most balanced of any game I've played by far. They are NOT forgiving, they can be matched or even beaten by AR's if you have good positioning or just are better than the sniper, there's almost 0 OHKs from them in this game, they are the rarest weapons and aside from the kar98 you might not even see them in a given match. Sure, someone with an 8x, cheekpad, and suppressor on a forested hill 700M away from you is probably going to destroy you, but that's like 1% of the 1% type situation. A lot of the top streamers hunt for snipers pretty hard and don't even get them that frequently and rarely kit them out when they do AND miss a fuckton of shots unless the person is just completely unaware they exist and is having a firefight with someone else.

The new sniper actually seems pretty dangerous specifically because it offsets a lot of the drawback of snipers by being high damage semi-auto at range. I know the SKS isn't popular at all but maybe the new one is just better enough to make it obnoxious, it looked like it from the couple clips I've seen so far (although those people still lost to ARs in the end)

To me it definitely reads like no matter what, if snipers exist in the game at all, you will hate on them, regardless of balance and whatever else :p Maybe that's not reality but that's how it comes off and to me that's just unreasonable in a game like PUBG. ARs are the core of the game but snipers, SMGs, and Shotties all fill their role and round out the gameplay nicely (I totally wouldn't mind pistols being buffed even more but I'm a pistol lover in all games)

Edit: Patch is up on test server, that's where I was seeing clips of the new gun. There's some bugs to go along with everything but so far I really like the 1st Person gameplay I'm seeing. I dunno about adding the loot animation to everything though. If they are going to equalize all looting speeds (which I guess is fair) they need to speed it up because it is sluggish.

Edit 2: Mute all hotkey is nice and all but maybe they should fix the fucking volumes so people don't have to use it all the time. Driving around in 1st person is hella loud


How about you and your crew, versus me and the Revolution.
 
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Sludig

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^--- But to make there be a point to that, Heko team snipers vs other team AR's?
 
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ronne

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This is about the biggest problem first first person currently, it's just annoying to play:

 
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Hekotat

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Just a heads up, you don't get rewards for playing FPS mode since they are saying it's in beta.