Prometheus (Alien 0) - 1 Year Later

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Loser Araysar

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its like the people that trying using plate tectonics to insist the great flood actually happened. They don't understand plate tectonics. And are trying to use real science to give legitimacy to their insane made up shit.
Same deal with ancient alien theories.
Except none of that happens in Prometheus, you idiot.
 

Caliane

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the core premise of the movie is creationist. Ancient aliens spread their DNA to create sapient life on Earth. Then its full of religious undertones and symbolism, and half assed philosophical questions.
the fuck are you talking about?
 

Loser Araysar

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the core premise of the movie is creationist. Ancient aliens spread their DNA to create sapient life on Earth. Then its full of religious undertones and symbolism, and half assed philosophical questions.
the fuck are you talking about?
So, in your fucked up head that can barely put together a sentence in English, any type of plotline that has to do with origin of humanity by default promotes Christianity.

Well, that is so fucking stupid that I don't even know what to say.
 

Caliane

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when they spend half the movie talking about Christianity. yes. And the final living character, insists on going to meet her creators at the end, because of her relationship with Jesus.



Are you going to try telling me Contact wasn't an attempt to discuss Science, Aliens and God?
 

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This. If anything, it's a movie about how fucking stupid humanity is that they started to worship and built a religion that would last thousands of years off the death of an alien being. He may have been what humanity thought was Christ, but he was a fucking ALIEN. Not Jesus. Not the Son of God. Not anything supernatural or religious. This movie is blasting Christianity as being the dumbest moment humanity has managed to allow to thrive and continue. At least to me anyway. I know I'd be pissed if I believed in "God" and then had someone tell me he was an alien being who had no real omnipresent or omnipotent properties.
I just thought the movie tried to do too much. It was a movie about creation and religion, but also was a Sci Fi and horror movie. That's too much to do in a two hour movie. It's like RS tried to do a retarded version of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
 

Loser Araysar

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when they spend half the movie talking about Christianity. yes.
yeah, that never happened.

And the final living character, insists on going to meet her creators at the end, because of her relationship with Jesus.
No, she goes to the Engineer homeworld because there is no point in going back home after everything she has seen so far. What would she go back to? Plus, it sets up the movie for a trilogy which was the original intent.

Are you going to try telling me Contact wasn't an attempt to discuss Science, Aliens and God?
Thats not even a remotely accurate comparison as one of Contact's primary characters is a Christian preacher.




I see what the problem is here. You're clearly too fucking stupid to make these nuanced distinctions.
 

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I don't think Araysar would be so up for rustling jimmies this morning if it wasn't for his Hawks winning. You guys can all blame this on the Wild.
 

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I thought we already explained Holloway and the eye worm. Oh well, some people just refuse to "get it".

But you're completely right, every good sci-fi film I've ever seen is always 100% rational and scientifically sound. Like that time when Luke blew up the Death Star by lobbing 2 torpedoes into a thermal vent. Or that time on Contact when that wacky rich guy had another trillion dollar machine built in secret, just in case.

Seems like the real gripe here is a bunch of nerds wanted "Alien" all over again and got a movie about something else instead. And they're salty about it.
That is part of it. That's legit though, and it's not on the fans. Our skirts were not too short. In a way they really did sell us rape again! But it wasn't the fun kind of rape. Oh well... 9 out of 10 people agree...

They tied this into the Alien franchise for ticket sales and marketing. It as cynical and transparent as the plot. Alien V Predator really IS a better story. I don't even think that people would be pissed if the movie had gone some other way. I wouldn't be. It didn't have to be Alien 2012 necessarily. It just had to be GOOD, which this movie sadly was not. Prometheus is a mediocre amalgam at best and most of that is reliant on the strength of the visuals. It's always possible for the movie to have been worse, but I'm almost positive that given the same budget this movie would have actually been better if it was divorced from the Aliens backstory.

"Alien 4(?)" or "Alien Mother" or "How is Sigourney Weaver Not Dead Yet (Oh Wait There it Goes)" may have been disappointing. And it was disappointing. Mostly for the same reasons even -- because the horror movie seams started to show, but it was still better than Prometheus. Hell, like I said, even AvP was better. At least AvP realized it was a dumb movie and reveled in it's dumbness. This movie doesn't realize just how dumb it is.

Made a lotta money though. Maybe it's not so dumb after all.

Jar-Jar Binks is the best character in cinema. Black is White. Love is Hate. Goldstein is a liar.
 

Loser Araysar

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I dont think they implied that there would be Xenomorphs running around chasing people, they stated it was a early prequel and that it was set in the Alien universe, that's about it. The fact that your imaginations ran rampant with the possibilities is on you, not the director and the producers.

Frankly, I wouldnt even want it to be another rehash of Alien 1/2/3. I've already seen the "alien-stalks-humans-in-enclosed-space" film enough times. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that Scott undertook a grander question of the scope of the human existence and finally answered some of the stuff from the previous films such as the Space Jockey, etc.
 

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woman gives herself an emergency c-section and is miraculously able to run around with staples holding her abdomen together...
then hops aboard an alien ship to confront the engineers with no means of obtaining food or water

The movie was visually stunning to watch, but totally unbelievable to the point of absurdity.
 

Loser Araysar

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woman gives herself an emergency c-section and is miraculously able to run around with staples holding her abdomen together...
then hops aboard an alien ship to confront the engineers with no means of obtaining food or water

The movie was visually stunning to watch, but totally unbelievable to the point of absurdity.
22nd century technology

alien food and water


not exactly great moments in the film, but not utterly implausible.
 

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woman gives herself an emergency c-section and is miraculously able to run around with staples holding her abdomen together...
then hops aboard an alien ship to confront the engineers with no means of obtaining food or water

The movie was visually stunning to watch, buttotally unbelievable to the point of absurdity.
God that point is always like nails on a chalkboard.

FUCKING ALIENS! But gripe about BELIEVE-ABILITY ABOUT WATER.

So lets say they added a scene of her finding a food container from the crashed ship with food and water. and someone gives some stupid one off about "FUTURE PAIN KILLERS MAKE YOU SUPERHUMAN" that makes the movie better? That fixes all the problems you have with the film and its all of a sudden a 10?

I Think Araysar is the only person making any sense.
 

Homsar

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Complaining about food is dumb and running around didn't piss me off to much. Now the scientist flipping out and running away from a 2000 year old corpse then trying to pet cobra vagina Dick was retarded along with hiding wheland for no reason
 

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I loved this movie, i have watched it at least 5 times.

That being said there was lots of stupid parts, (my personal eyeroll was the space ship rolling) but the premises is what i love, not the details.
Sure people did stupid shit, hate to break it to you, people in general do stupid shit all the time.

I am indifferent to the rest of the Alien movies, but i really like this story, enough to have a high level of suspension of disbelief that helps me make it through the silly parts. I can see why others would not like it, and i agree with many points in this thread, but for me the total package with this type of far reaching story is exactly what i pay $10 for. (ok in this case $0)

You really cant have a movie about creation with out religious overtones. I see it as almost anti religion as the film shows us that all religion was wrong and our creation seems is driven by science, or rather the sweet spot where science might actually meet religion.

if you really did not like the movie you might enjoy Maddoxx's rip on it if you have not seen it already.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....theus_nutshell
 

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Trillion dollar space mission where the entire crew are morons. Maybe it's like Idiocracy back home on Earth and these really are the most intelligent people we can offer up, but stupid people doing stupid things is a trope I have no interest in watching any more.
 

Loser Araysar

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Trillion dollar space mission where the entire crew are morons. Maybe it's like Idiocracy back home on Earth and these really are the most intelligent people we can offer up, but stupid people doing stupid things is a trope I have no interest in watching any more.
Maybe when you fund a trillion dollar mission, you can put people on it that YOU like.


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I deal with an awful lot of scientists pretty regularly, genius level intelegance does not always, or even usually, translate to common sense. Just because they are the smartest people in the world doesn't mean they will know how to deal with situations outside of their expertise. I also got the impression that a mission of this scope was a pretty groundbreaking thing and that there may not have been much protocol or procedure to follow, I could be wrong, definitely dealing with alien lifeforms appears to be new and unknown.
 

Loser Araysar

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I deal with an awful lot of scientists pretty regularly, genius level intelegance does not always, or even usually, translate to common sense. Just because they are the smartest people in the world doesn't mean they will know how to deal with situations outside of their expertise. I also got the impression that a mission of this scope was a pretty groundbreaking thing and that there may not have been much protocol or procedure to follow, I could be wrong, definitely dealing with alien lifeforms appears to be new and unknown.
100% agree.
 

Shonuff

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I deal with an awful lot of scientists pretty regularly, genius level intelegance does not always, or even usually, translate to common sense.
I've met plenty of Phd's from elite schools that had zero common sense. My Dad has a PhD in Chemistry, so all of his friends do too. I've been to plenty a dinner party where I'm surrounded by mouthbreathers with prestigious degrees.

There's a difference between intelligence and wisdom.