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I'm running the old standard for Zeus teams for Hera.
Dual Zeus leads
Valk
Verch
Parvati
Echidna
Valk and Verch are both maxed at 5 turn cooldown, Echinda is maxed at 10 turn cooldown. Parvati is skill level 2 so 10 turn cooldown.
Not even bothering to charge skills. Just blasting through everything. Popping naga if I fuck up and at Hera since you have to tear through 2 mil+ hp.
Much easier than running Ancient Dark on Legendary with dual Zeus.
Dual Zeus leads
Valk
Verch
Parvati
Echidna
Valk and Verch are both maxed at 5 turn cooldown, Echinda is maxed at 10 turn cooldown. Parvati is skill level 2 so 10 turn cooldown.
Not even bothering to charge skills. Just blasting through everything. Popping naga if I fuck up and at Hera since you have to tear through 2 mil+ hp.
Much easier than running Ancient Dark on Legendary with dual Zeus.
SorrowsEnd
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I take the Naga. That stun is clutch when you fuck up and need to heal to get your damage modifier back. Also it is pretty important for Hera as well.
As for what to feed...I keep shoveling all mine into D/L Hades. I went 0/15 in skillups last time and 0/5 so far today but I did get a mystic ice knight that gave me Fenrir a skillup. That made me happy =)
So, apparently there's a new collab coming with Clash of Clans, and the new REM "event" for the upcoming week is ninja carnival.
Wonder if that means the skillup mons for the new collab might be ninja skills?
Also, if I get a dub-amelit from Fri. dungeon I should have a 30s level max skill Duke Vamp finally. Might shoot you folk with solid Vamps a freind request now that I have a borderline decent leader for a mono-color. I'm 0 for many on D'Spinas drops, looks like that's not going to happen unless 2x time bails me out at the last second.
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Wonder if that means the skillup mons for the new collab might be ninja skills?
Also, if I get a dub-amelit from Fri. dungeon I should have a 30s level max skill Duke Vamp finally. Might shoot you folk with solid Vamps a freind request now that I have a borderline decent leader for a mono-color. I'm 0 for many on D'Spinas drops, looks like that's not going to happen unless 2x time bails me out at the last second.
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Add me if you want, usually leave up my Loki, The Finisher who is about level 70. Switched to using him instead of the Duke Vamp but still like to use friend Dukes.
So my friend is having his mid life pad crisis. He is complaining to me about how he lacks the true essential cards in the game for playing and that he is stuck at a point and cant progress. He's got a good amount of gods and able to grind out stuff pretty easily. However since he isnt able to farm Hera-is or Zues-dios without dropping money to get the best cards from the rem like Horus, Anubis, or some others, that he is perpetually stuck doing the same stuff over and over again.
So I am wondering how right is he? Does this game take substantial money to see end game dungeons? Can you build up one mono colored team and manage to compete with top players and farm the top dungeons? I really am interested. Right now im stuck on tower of flare and the ice maze technical dungeon. Cant seem to make it past with my mono red team atm but im slowly grinding out xp. I still have yet to spend a single dollar on this game.
So I am wondering how right is he? Does this game take substantial money to see end game dungeons? Can you build up one mono colored team and manage to compete with top players and farm the top dungeons? I really am interested. Right now im stuck on tower of flare and the ice maze technical dungeon. Cant seem to make it past with my mono red team atm but im slowly grinding out xp. I still have yet to spend a single dollar on this game.
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It kinda depends on what you've got, I think. I don't consider Anubis to be high end, I consider him to be a one trick pony. When it works and you get lucky, you win. When you don't, you lose. That's not high end. High end is stable and predictable. A different argument could be made for Horus for sure, but still not the be all/end all.
I started with Hades, and kinda felt the same way. Struggled to clear Tower of Flare, and ended up grinding techs for a long time. Then I got lucky and pulled a Persephone off a godfest and everything changed. I now had a stable dark team, with 20khp with the right helper, and that enabled me to progress thru content and once I got the right subs farmed, it's been pretty great. Supplement the team with ancient/legendary dragons (and rippers before that) and you can build yourself a team. I think that it's easy to think that there's nothing you can do with what's in your box, but that's only because you haven't focused your efforts towards farming the right subs, and instead are just kinda meandering around the game. Once you have an idea for what you want for your team, you can make it happen (sans of course shit like Ninjas, which really need their own dungeons).
I started with Hades, and kinda felt the same way. Struggled to clear Tower of Flare, and ended up grinding techs for a long time. Then I got lucky and pulled a Persephone off a godfest and everything changed. I now had a stable dark team, with 20khp with the right helper, and that enabled me to progress thru content and once I got the right subs farmed, it's been pretty great. Supplement the team with ancient/legendary dragons (and rippers before that) and you can build yourself a team. I think that it's easy to think that there's nothing you can do with what's in your box, but that's only because you haven't focused your efforts towards farming the right subs, and instead are just kinda meandering around the game. Once you have an idea for what you want for your team, you can make it happen (sans of course shit like Ninjas, which really need their own dungeons).
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Kick him in the vagina and hope the sand shakes loose. Assuming he is a JP player (since he is complaining about Hera-is and Zeus-dios) that is what, two dungeons out of 100? No idea even how many more normal and special dungeons the JP side has over US. Not to mention all the extraessentialcards he has access to. And that isn't me being sandy about the US side not having access to it, only that there are many many options out there for doing these things, US and JP alike.
There are a few posts that have been put together in the thread showing the viability of doing end game dungeons withonlyUS dropped teams. At the end the conclusion was, I believe, that Godess Descended was the only one that probably couldn't normally be completed with a card from the REM. Otherwise I believe it has been shown that every other dungeon is farmable with zero IAP (not to mention GungHo aren't really stingy with the free stones). Some mono teams are going to be stronger than other, of course, and some aren't viable without REM. I think Fire was the only readily attainable mono color team.... I think, will try to go back and find those posts. Being stuck at the very last and hardest two dungeons isn't particularly a bad thing. At least he hasn't been "locked" out of 20 dungeons behind a money firewall. And who knows, maybe with more +eggs and the right friend leader he could do Zeus-dios and Hera-is.
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I'd recommend buying stones just for account recovery (next godfest, spend the $5 and get 5 stones for a pull). Really, have him post his box, though if he's concerned with farming Hera-is and Zeus-Dio without stones, I'm thinking he's not even close to having the right team. I'd think the amount of people on the board here who could reliably farm those dungeons would be in the single digits.
PS someone toss up a couple Parvatis?
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What constitutes essential cards?
AA lucifer and wood demon asaroth? Greco Roman gods and Japanese gods seem to have the most utility as subs.
I'm trying to build my stones up to a decent level as two pulls per godfest doesn't seem enough to get a good result, and I want to be shooting for the most useful cards.
Edit: For reference my gods are Shiva, green odin, and horus.
AA lucifer and wood demon asaroth? Greco Roman gods and Japanese gods seem to have the most utility as subs.
I'm trying to build my stones up to a decent level as two pulls per godfest doesn't seem enough to get a good result, and I want to be shooting for the most useful cards.
Edit: For reference my gods are Shiva, green odin, and horus.
Ninja carnival sounded maybe interesting, but ninja+toy dragon? Hell no.
I'm kinda curious about "essentials" and team building too. Initial rolls and end game stuff get discussed pretty regularly, but info on the grindy middle stuff isn't as available. Does anyone remember where that happened in this thread?
I'm kinda curious about "essentials" and team building too. Initial rolls and end game stuff get discussed pretty regularly, but info on the grindy middle stuff isn't as available. Does anyone remember where that happened in this thread?
Probably the closest thing is one of:
Ameratsu, Green Odin, Neptune, Viper Orochi (to a lesser extent)
But these are really only "essential" for a few gimmick dungeons (for now anyway). Unfortunately, I have none of them so I haven't even bothered trying Hera yet.
Ameratsu, Green Odin, Neptune, Viper Orochi (to a lesser extent)
But these are really only "essential" for a few gimmick dungeons (for now anyway). Unfortunately, I have none of them so I haven't even bothered trying Hera yet.
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I would say for mid game one of the easy buffers to a team is to shoot for being able to clear Rainbow Keeper. They're great filler team members with high HP and coupled with your own farmed Siren and a friend Odin, or vice versa your own resist leader (ripper, etc..) and a friend Ama, you should be able to clear most any mid range dungeon. Red Ogres are also farmable if you want to go the resist team route, while not as good as a Viper from the REM, there are very valid Resolve Ogre teams.
But my view of the mid game was farming up a healer, poisoner, and the rippers for resist and nukes.
But my view of the mid game was farming up a healer, poisoner, and the rippers for resist and nukes.
Having one of green odin or amaterasu can be very useful for working your way up to good teams. If you had to pick one god though, I'd take one of the greek or norse r/g/b gods or parvati. They let you cover the vast majority of dungeons easily, only leaving out things like valkyrie and zeus. Runner up status to shiva and lakshmi - they aren't quite up to the fantastic usefulness of parv, but a 3/3/1.5 team is still damn buff.
So for you, I wouldn't worry about having more gods than the ones you have - you can make an excellent dps team out of horus, a solid all-rounder red team with shiva and horus sub, and gimmick teams with odin.
He's not right at all. Hera-is and Zeus-dios were just added to the JP side to provide challenge for the people who have been farming since release. They are also limited dungeons that rarely show up. Complaining you can't farm them the first time they show up is first world problems to a ludicrous degree.
The second question is more iffy - you cannot compete with the top players, some of them spend thousands of both hours and dollars on the game. You'll most likely end up with pretty solid teams that can clear most stuff just by playing without paying anything though - you just won't do it quickly. They give out a lot of free stones over time, but you can't be in a big hurry.
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If you have any of the autohealers leveled up with decent RCV you can use someone's Viper and beat Hera. You do not need Amat O. You just need to slog through the first 5 levels and hope it doesn't take a lot of stones because of sync'd up attacks, you have a 19.4% chance of none of them syncing up supposedly.
Last few Hera's I've advertised my Viper account for folks to use in this fashion, 0% of folks took me up on it.
Yeah, I looked into that and did the math and everything (I have a reasonably leveled Alarune and a 70ish Siren) but I just haven't been able to bring myself to start a 2 hour clear with a bunch of weak as monsters. I guess part of it is not knowing how many stones I'd have to throw at it... maybe I'll do it next time.
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Everyone should have a poison monster by now from Tower of Poring if no Neptune/Lilith. So Neptune isn't an issue.
The way I rationalize it is you are probably spending less than 5 stones to get to wave 6, so if Hera is something you actually want you are getting a highly useful card for less than a single REM roll(with the 1 stone reward after winning).
2 hours shouldn't be TOO prohibitive for a guaranteed drop. 40 stam so you won't be wasting stam capped. Just run it through the day when you have a few minutes.
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Level the demons to the final form (by feeding them themselves) and you'll have a 600hp 1100atk monster.