Puzzles and Dragons

I think you can enjoy the same game if you don't spend cash.

I've gone over it a few times but it is always a popular topic.

I started non-iap with a 4* Valk roll. Farmed up my own Mermaid, Dryad, Naga, and got Succubus from a PAL roll. Leveled/evolved my Mermaid to a 5* Siren. When the game proceeded to get pretty hard for my valk team I switched to using Siren as autohealer, putting all my RCV eggs on her, and finding all the green Odin friends I could. During this time I leveled/evolved all the lil dragons into 5*. I mostly ran a team of Siren as leader, 2 rainbow keepers, Lilith, Echidna, and taking whatever green Odin friends I could. With this same non-iap team I cleared up to Zeus in Starlight Sanctuary and all the technical dungeons (only half the current list was available at first). I beat Hera using stones. You will die a few times as a zombie team, it happens, I had a dozen stones saved up from clearing dungeons. I spent half a dozen to beat Hera twice.

When my girlfriend was at the doctors and in the hospital in Feb is when I started to IAP for stamina refills and to add a shitload of box space. Sitting in waiting rooms or at the hospital I had way too many hours to kill. I have really cut back though on Sta refills outside of special 1 day events like Poring Tower. People bitch about "wasting" a stone on a stamina refill...I look at it as gaming on demand. I'll waste 4.99 to rent a movie off amazon on-demand without batting an eyelash for 2 hours to amuse the gf and myself. Spending $ 0.70 to refill stamina is another hour of doing what I want when I want. I keep my spending within my gaming budget.

Moral of the story is you will spend stones to beat higher end special dungeons unless you have godly maxed out teams. You get tons of stones by clearing dungeons and with all the free stones they hand out. You can clear all the same stuff by playing non-iap.

Yeah, I dont really know what to tell him. I think he refuses to use stones to regen stam, he also refuses to use stones in a middle of a dungeon. Im thinking that he wants to reasonably progress at a decent speed without spending too much money and not having to stone during dungeons. He says that doing anything pre Hera or even the legendary dragons is just a waste of time. Mostly because everything you get in the end game is useless. Personally I think he is just bitter with the game and isnt allready farming top tier content.

Im just stuck on tower of flare and the first water technical due to lack of power and resist. Slowly working to make my guys better but its slow and grindy.

*10 times. Completely agree with focusing on getting rank up as quickly as possible. I did the same thing you did.

Intrinsic_sl said:

On this point, it is still my belief that investing in your own Rank is the best use of time you can make. The value of a stone goes up significantly the more STA you have. You can spend one stone to run Metal Dragons twice if you have 40 STA, or you can spend one stone to run it four times if you have 160 STA. I'm woefully behind on rank at 135 and have really squandered a lot of stones refilling and running metal dragons for 2x kings rather than just increasing my rank (which by the way Metal Dragons today was a piece of crap, so jokes on me....)

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It is night and day how different my main account was leveled vs my alt account.

With my alt account my main focus is pure leveling. Most of my first 80 levels were from chain running the 3rd stage of Tower of Giants on sat/sun during 1/2 sta. With the angel godfest i rolled an AA lucifer and just tore through levels to unlock Oceanus Falls. Now that account just grinds the 3rd stage in Oceanus for 5300+ exp for 10 stamina a shot. I was able to grind non-stop past 100. If all I run is that level there is zero downtime needed for stamina to recover. It is disgusting. I have 20 stones on that account that are all from the free daily stones and from clearing levels.

velk_sl said:

So for you, I wouldn't worry about having more gods than the ones you have - you can make an excellent dps team out of horus, a solid all-rounder red team with shiva and horus sub, and gimmick teams with odin.

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Looking through my box I think you are right. It is going to take about 600 pengdras to get most of my useful monsters to 70, which is going to take a long time.

When I get my fortoytops up to a decent level, I should be able to do two heroes with a dark Neptune helper. Hera will be doable with enough hp, and if I can do goemon I should be able to beat valk and Zeus with a goemon team.

Intrinsic_sl said:

On this point, it is still my belief that investing in your own Rank is the best use of time you can make. The value of a stone goes up significantly the more STA you have. You can spend one stone to run Metal Dragons twice if you have 40 STA, or you can spend one stone to run it four times if you have 160 STA. I'm woefully behind on rank at 135 and have really squandered a lot of stones refilling and running metal dragons for 2x kings rather than just increasing my rank (which by the way Metal Dragons today was a piece of crap, so jokes on me....)

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Yeah, I need to do more rank-up as well. They open up such a myriad of options to farm once technicals are open that it's easy to get sidetracked. I'm glad Sorrows recommended getting through the normals, it's been a fun change of pace and I noticed that, surprise, I'm ranking up a little quicker than doing technicals, especially since my penguin farming needs are vastly less (outside of Pendgra village aftermath).

Of course, the fact that ancient dark had a pretty decent xp/stam ratio factored in as well, since I might as well have pitched a tent in that dungeon. I'll be missing that come Monday, almost no matter what they start to take its place.

Guess it's time to work through the end of Rhea-Themis Temple and head towards Neptune so I can farm mystic masks outside of that godawful Wed. dungeon...

It surprises me how many people just stop running the normal dungeons once they unlock the technicals.

It seems folks get sucked into the monster leveling grind and forget the core game itself.

The tech levels are shitty fucking exp. The leveling mats are great obviously..but those places suck for level exp.

Stolen from the PAD forums:

high exp/stamina ratio are roughly ordered as:

[804] Zeus
[645] Hera
[560] 3rd stage of Hyperion Lava Flow, Oceanus Falls and Kronos Forest (tier 5)
[535] last stage of Hyperion Lava Flow, Oceanus Falls and Kronos Forest (tier 5)
[530] 1st stages of Vesta Cave, Frozen Soil of Prosell, Mars Crater (t6)
[520] 3rd stage of Rhea-Themis Temple, Clayus Prison (t5)
[519] last stage of Junos Island (t6) [515] 1st stage of Tower to the Sky (t5)
[480] 3rd stage of Tower of Giants at 1/2 stamina

My spot of choice is 3rd stage of Oceanus Falls

^^^ Can't complain about drops like that. Grats!

Edit: Drop rates for the CDK dungeon were pretty nice today until I needed 1 more level on my 2nd CDK. I am now at 17 runs in a row without a drop. I had a great run where I saw a CDK on EVERY FUCKING FLOOR and only got imp drops...

so. if i have say, a carbunkle with skill maxed. if a new carbunkle eats skilled-carbunkle, will new-carbunkle acquire the skill ups?

does anyone have a lucifer they keep up regularly? my ghetto squad needs a hitpoint boost to beat the friday dungeon easily

my typical ghetto squad is like...leviathan, plesios, chaos devil dragon, drawn joker, shardran. I try to get a green dragon knight (x2.5) guy to friend leader. my present angle is that I'm two dub-blacklits away from having a black/blue devil/leviathan. combine with devil drawn joker, devil chaos dragon, i could slap down a devil squad in the near future, plus devil leviathan has x2 black and blue, which are my strengths.


anyway, that's my normal dungeon/tech dungeon squad. I've been doing friday dub-mithlit dungeon with (brace for shitty) drawn joker, chaos devil dragon, a NON EVOLVED succubus (waiting on a mask drop) dark golem II, and yomi. i grab a lucifer and then just kind of flail my way through it like an idiot. killing the dub's fast and just building up the succubus when i only have mini-lits.

it said your friend list was full. I'm 329,945,289. i put myself on the spreadsheet.

Does Loki the finisher's +dark and + devil bonuses stack for a dark devil?

..._sl said:

Does Loki the finisher's +dark and + devil bonuses stack for a dark devil?

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Nope, you can only get the bonus once from a single leader. Which renders Loki's devil bonus as somewhat sad since by my count approximately 99.9% of them are dark anyway. He's still a superb leader anyhow - I'd buy a Loki at black market prices right about now.

Edit - Skydragons, huh? Yep, time to work on normal dungeons for a bit. I've had my fill of farming 1% drops with Spinas, tyvm.

So I spent 4 stones today. Looks like about 40 or so runs with about 15 or so drops to get 2 skillups on a CDK.

Yay...

Anyone able to refresh an anubis for me?