Puzzles and Dragons

I managed to connect to bush internet long enough to grab a stone and see that Godfest was running. Pulled 4 times resulting in Hades, Ceres, Apollo, and a Mystic Knight. Hades and Ceres should be nice additions to my Mono Dark, still hoping for Neptune some day.

Sup brahs, anyone wanna add me i run Horus 75% of the time, lvl 89 flame deity. Also have a lvl 80 Awoken Hera-is and lvl 50 AA lucifer i use, will be evolving soon. Looking for other egyption leads in particular.





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I run Horus 90% of the time

10% Anubis/Amaterasu/Loki/Resist Leaders etc

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Some interesting stuff has been coming up about best use of stam and xp and all that jazz...


I would like to hear what people are using their stam and xp on?
Trusting other peoples calculations for optimal evolved pengdra and unevolved pengdra farming... we get some numbers for pet XP per stamina...

Optimal Evolved Pengdra =2368xp per stam
Unvolved = 1800 xp per stam
Super Jewel = 4050xp per stam
Ancient Dragons (not for skillup) = 2760xp per stam

This doesnt account for player xp, gold, random drops, etc... going along with that...


I have a priority list and go from there...

1. Any time limited dungeon that will provide a stone if I clear it.

If the dungeon drops nothing of interest, I will wait for increased drop rate before clearing all the difficulties for the stone.

2. Any time limited dungeons that provide me with a drop I want, or a skillup for a drop I need to skillup.

This includes: Ancient Dragons, Poring Tower, Echidna. Not two heroes or hera.

*3. Super Jewel Dragon Dungeons
Twice as xp/stam efficient as the optimal evolved path. Nuff said.

4. Pengdra Village

One assured evo, up to 3 total evo... + Dark/Light pengdras makes it an easy choice for 20 stam. At its WORST, You would need 20stam (2 tier 1 technicals averaging 2 pengs per run), 10stam on thursday for dragon plants. And 20 stam for jewel dragon... Yeah this is MUCH better than "optimal evolved pengdra path". But you do not get to choose your color...

4. Time Sensitive increased drop rates:
Any day: Double drop rate kings
Weekend: Ocean of Heaven +Egg/Mask
Monday: Technicals
Thursday: Dragon Plants (I try to keep 17 in box at all times)

If I am in danger of stamina capping while still meeting all those requirements
A) Whichever T4 dungeon currently has increased droprate (they also have skillups for Titan, Mermaid/Shark, Poring)
B) If I am noticably lacking of any of the evo materials from weekday dungeons...

If I am less than 5000xp away from ranking up, I do runs of Dragons of the Tower for approx 1500xp per run (chance of Dragon Plants) to burn off stamina in case I am too tired to do enough difficult dungeons to prevent stamina capping.

*If you can assuredly 0 stone clear 99stam legendary earth dragon... at its WORST, its half as good as Super Jewel Dungeons... at its best... its 75% as good. And its not time sensitive, but not color specific!

EDIT:

From a calculation at other forums... assuming no Stamina from stones or rankups... and the WORST drops possible from jewel dragons etc... following the optimal evolved pengdra xp path... you max 10 4mil pets per year...

Now... as for the optimal use of pet xp... that depends on whats in your box... using the tools at pdx to compare stats per xp you can figure out what the best use would be... (its normally better to get 2 monsters to 2mil xp each than it is to get ONE to 4mil) but... thats up to you and what you prefer more.

My preference is... Useful leaders to 90+, egg dump to 90+, multi team subs to 70+, single team subs to 60+. I prefer big HP over big dmg.

Getting at least one lead to 90+ pays off in pal points, which can dramatically increase your net exp gained through super king pal egg events.

@DF what does Weekend: Ocean of Heaven +Egg/Mask mean? It has an increased chance to drop masks and +eggs on weekends? Just opened it up a couple of weeks ago and never do it so im curious.

Krassus_sl said:

@DF what does Weekend: Ocean of Heaven +Egg/Mask mean? It has an increased chance to drop masks and +eggs on weekends? Just opened it up a couple of weeks ago and never do it so im curious.

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It has a 1.5x drop rate on weekends, and has the greatest natural rate of mystic masks of any normal/technical dungeon. It also drops + eggs at a healthy clip.

Gotcha thanks Comp.

DF that's a great perspective on when, what, and why you farm ! Thanks

Just turned my AA Lucifer into SoD Lucifer ... now to find him things to feed on ...

That's a mighty fine post you have there, DF. As far as as what I go for, it's a little more skewed to player rank than you, although once I hit 100 stamina in 15 ranks or so I'm quite likely to take some of that info under advisement.

Of course, it seems that usually during events I'm wasting stamina shamefully going for skill-ups I don't get. And I tend to spend non-event days farming evo mats (any Keeper that isn't rainbow if it's Tuesday, else run wherever has best player xp/stam and drops whatever mask or dublit I may need). I tend to try to run master or above special dungeons regardless of drop rate if it will level me and I'm near next rank anyhow, that way I don't run a skydragon and feel like 60% of that day's stamina went to one boring and generally silly endeavor.

Naturally, that does lead me to sometimes not get that drops (especially from master) I might want, so there's some hidden ineffiency there as well, as I have to run it again in those instances. Speaking of which, anyone going to have a Dark Ceres or Dark Venus up Sunday during 2X drops for Nobunaga? I've gone 0/4 on Master drops, with a good enough helper I can probably slowly grind my way through legendary....

Edit - GAF posits two weeks of MFK survey coming up, so if you're grabbing at the last chance to get/skill knights, you may want to de-prioritize that one. And man, after only two days break - the soul crushing grind continues. Maybe I'll just run 2x drops with stones, assuming they put that rate up....

Df~_sl said:

*If you can assuredly 0 stone clear 99stam legendary earth dragon... at its WORST, its half as good as Super Jewel Dungeons... at its best... its 75% as good. And its not time sensitive, but not color specific!

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Out of curiosity, what's a theoretical 0 stone clear of legendary earth dragon ? As far as I can tell, any team that can do 100k hits to clear round 1 can't survive the boss hits.

Yeah, but you can have a team that has enough HP to stall until armor breaks are ready and still zombie a 100k hit every 3 turns...

One of the more interesting setups I used was
CoC Pekka Leader, Dark Golem Mk 3 (max skill), Ancient Black Dragon(max skill), Black Samurai Dragon(12 turn cooldown), Lucifer sub, Lucifer Lead

This gave me 2xHP 2xRCV, 50% uptime of 75%armor break, 70% Zombie, single turn, 660k nuke, 4 turn 25,000 nuke (not useful), 12 turn 40,000k nuke, and about 36,000k HP

Which means I have to heal about 8400 per turn during the boss... which is not all that hard... yeah you can get unlucky streaks... but when you are consistently matching 6+ a turn... you cycle through enough orbs to get what you need.

I've been working on making this happen for Zaerog farming.



It's a bit risky but fun! =)

For zaerog farming.. goemon teams can work really well, especially because you can be very precise about HP and damage you take turn by turn allowing you to setup your gems pretty effectively...
3 High Gems to start... either at 2 or 1 delay. Dealing 6990 dmg per attack.
Possible turn 1 delays: 2 2 2, 2 2 1, 2 1 1, 1 1 1
Damage taken on turn one(percent chance to occur): 0 (12.5%), 6990(37.5%), 13980(37.5%), 20970(12.5%)

Possible turn 2 delays: 1 1 1, 1 1 1, 1 1 1, 1 1 1
Damage taken on turn two: 20970

To plan your HP accordingly... Apart from the boss... the highest damage you will take on any turn is on round 3 ( 1 king, 2 highs) for 25500 so I would take that as the minimum HP requirement for entry. In order to activate 25x you need to have less than 20% HP. (5099HP for 25501 team HP)

I see certain HP levels as being better than others...
34950+ is the most I would bother to bring for goemon setup
27960+ is minimum to survive full attack during round 1
25500+ is minimum to survive one attack during round 3...
20970+ is minimum to survive worst case attack turn 1 round 1

Its still a crapshoot on what your starting round and board looks like... but bringing 27960+ HP team allows for the least healing with the highest chance of activating 25x... 37.5% chance to activate 25x without doing anything on turn 1 and 2 . 37.5% chance to activate 25x after turn 2 while healing approximately 6990HP on turn 2. And finally a 12.5% chance to activate 25x after turn 2 or 3 by healing 13980HP (not realistically possible).




Edit: 4 high dragons to start...

Possible turn 1 delays: 2 2 2 2, 2 2 2 1, 2 2 1 1, 2 1 1 1, 1 1 1 1
Damage taken on turn one(percent chance to occur): 0 (7.1%), 6990(28.5%), 13980(28.5%), 20970(28.5%), 27960 (7.1%)


Possible turn 2 delays: 1 1 1 1
Damage taken on turn two: *27960




With 25x dmg, you just need to make sure to get over 4000base dmg (Assuming a 6 combo turn, just need 2 3gem of your target color to break their defense and kill them) 2000 base dmg if color weakness.

Too bad there are 4 dragons on turn one.