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Not too bad 1/11 on Uriel combines today, 1 away from max skill... Maxed my pierdrawn after a total of 30 combines, (started at like skill level 3) maxed him on my last one.
I'm off to a much worse start on this event, 0/7 on susanos, and I actually have 3 susanos... 0/4 o my Gabriel, but legendary blue drops evolved skillups much less often than I got evolved reds. Susano and Gabriel skillups are a pain in the ass to evolve too
I'm off to a much worse start on this event, 0/7 on susanos, and I actually have 3 susanos... 0/4 o my Gabriel, but legendary blue drops evolved skillups much less often than I got evolved reds. Susano and Gabriel skillups are a pain in the ass to evolve too
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In a bind and need a miracle combo to win, but lack the patience or ability(like me!) to plan out those awesome combos? Well there's a new online optimizer tool and it's pretty cool. I mean, it looks cool. Haven't used it(or any of them ever), but I think I'll try this one out with my Robin at some point.
Puzzle Dragons optimizer
Puzzle Dragons optimizer
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So I'm thinking about starting to run this as my main descended team (or at least heavily favor it and see how it goes). Sorry for the size, couldn't for the life of me figure out how to resize this shit on Windows 8.1
Some additional options that I have as subs could also work:
-Tortoise Mountain Genbu, Mei Mei- Not 100% sure how her active works but it would seem to fit with Umi&Yama as it is three of the four colors to activate. But if it killed the blue orbs that'd suck.
-Awoken Odin- Green / White could drop in replace Artemis for more HP/RCV, but less attack. Also Odin's active doesn't work as well as Artemis for Umi&Yama. I have enough Tamadra saved up to fully Awaken him, just nervous spending them.
-Awoken Athena- Drop in replacement for Valk, more HP/ATK but less RCV. Athena's active doesn't workas wellas Valks, good having that white heartbreak if you're color screwed.
-Noble Wolf King Hero, Cu Chu- Two on color for 5x, max skilled heartbreak, max awoken. I can see using him as a general replacement if things start going consistently bad with colors.
-High Dark Ninja Hanzo- Nice active because Fire Orbs are useless in this team, nice ATK, but very low HP and only one damage source for color. Also unfortunately didn't get him any skill ups the last time Tengu was around.
-D/L Batman/D/D Batman- Probably lean more towards D/L Batman. Nice delay without having to use Echidna who doesn't go with Umi&Yama. Not bad HP/ATK but very poor RCV.
Yomi I will probably take toD/Dwhen that is released. The active on D/L doesn't seem useful. That will give her a second dark color source for damage. Honestly though she's mainly there for CTW and her +1 second orb move time when full Awoken (which is what I'm thinking about putting my Tamadra toward). Another goal here would be to max skill Hera-Is, which is depressing to think about. Maybe D/L Zeus when he comes in as a potential sub.
Not trashing or feeding my Horus to anyone for +s just yet, but with the current state of things 16x just isn't getting it done. Haven't been able to pull a DTron yet, or Kirin, so Umi&Yama are my only shot. One major problem though is I have exactly 0 Umi&Yama friends on my list
Some additional options that I have as subs could also work:
-Tortoise Mountain Genbu, Mei Mei- Not 100% sure how her active works but it would seem to fit with Umi&Yama as it is three of the four colors to activate. But if it killed the blue orbs that'd suck.
-Awoken Odin- Green / White could drop in replace Artemis for more HP/RCV, but less attack. Also Odin's active doesn't work as well as Artemis for Umi&Yama. I have enough Tamadra saved up to fully Awaken him, just nervous spending them.
-Awoken Athena- Drop in replacement for Valk, more HP/ATK but less RCV. Athena's active doesn't workas wellas Valks, good having that white heartbreak if you're color screwed.
-Noble Wolf King Hero, Cu Chu- Two on color for 5x, max skilled heartbreak, max awoken. I can see using him as a general replacement if things start going consistently bad with colors.
-High Dark Ninja Hanzo- Nice active because Fire Orbs are useless in this team, nice ATK, but very low HP and only one damage source for color. Also unfortunately didn't get him any skill ups the last time Tengu was around.
-D/L Batman/D/D Batman- Probably lean more towards D/L Batman. Nice delay without having to use Echidna who doesn't go with Umi&Yama. Not bad HP/ATK but very poor RCV.
Yomi I will probably take toD/Dwhen that is released. The active on D/L doesn't seem useful. That will give her a second dark color source for damage. Honestly though she's mainly there for CTW and her +1 second orb move time when full Awoken (which is what I'm thinking about putting my Tamadra toward). Another goal here would be to max skill Hera-Is, which is depressing to think about. Maybe D/L Zeus when he comes in as a potential sub.
Not trashing or feeding my Horus to anyone for +s just yet, but with the current state of things 16x just isn't getting it done. Haven't been able to pull a DTron yet, or Kirin, so Umi&Yama are my only shot. One major problem though is I have exactly 0 Umi&Yama friends on my list
right, burst teams definitely needs an enhance multiplier, or enhancer and/or delays for it to work well... whether it's a valk/bastet with a king shynee (48x), or a bastet/athena with a izanagi (36x), or goemon with hera-ur (75x).. Horus can work for descends just fine at only 16x, but I think ideally you'd have high level viper orochi and/or susano so that stalling/surviving against the boss is no problem and you get up to 10 turns to do your damage. Each burst team works differently, and some will just not be viable on certain bosses... that's the nature of the game. Horus doesn't work as well on a boss with a pre-emptive shield, those bosses tend to be beaten best by a OHKO team.
It will be virtully impossible to stall for 30 turns in most descended dungeons with that team.
It will be virtully impossible to stall for 30 turns in most descended dungeons with that team.
I think you could put together a very good balanced team capable of any descended or Genbu team, too...
But if you want to stick with U&Y...
You'd be best off with D/L Yomi (the active is the same, and her atk is ignificantly higher which helps for U&Y, D/D Yomi only if you were to build a Balanced burst team)...
and D/L Batman...
Then your other 2 subs you'd just tailor to the dungeon, Hera-IS is worthless without skillups, it's almost impossible to stall 30 turns with a high dmg burst team...
Most useful subs would probably be running a full dark team D/D batman (his delay will help you make it to the boss with D/L batman up) and use a Hanzo (use vamp lord if you've got one maxed until you skill up your hanzo), your health would be low but you're trying to kill the boss before it hits you even once.
The biggest problem with U&Y is that basically only Izanagi is a good enhancer for him, unless you run a heavy blue team (blue Odin and B/D vamp with I&I with Yomi would be I think just about the ideal U&Y team +50% damag in a single round if you can make a full horizontal blue row in addition to the 3 other orb color matches which isn't too hard considering you'd have both U&Y making blue orbs...That team would easily 1-2 round any red boss in the game
For a blue god like Hera-IS - You can easily kill her by using something like Artemis/ADK/Freyja/Yomi
U&Y is definitely a great thought experiment for a high level IAP player that has many high level subs and wants to tailor his team to the dungeon.
But if you want to stick with U&Y...
You'd be best off with D/L Yomi (the active is the same, and her atk is ignificantly higher which helps for U&Y, D/D Yomi only if you were to build a Balanced burst team)...
and D/L Batman...
Then your other 2 subs you'd just tailor to the dungeon, Hera-IS is worthless without skillups, it's almost impossible to stall 30 turns with a high dmg burst team...
Most useful subs would probably be running a full dark team D/D batman (his delay will help you make it to the boss with D/L batman up) and use a Hanzo (use vamp lord if you've got one maxed until you skill up your hanzo), your health would be low but you're trying to kill the boss before it hits you even once.
The biggest problem with U&Y is that basically only Izanagi is a good enhancer for him, unless you run a heavy blue team (blue Odin and B/D vamp with I&I with Yomi would be I think just about the ideal U&Y team +50% damag in a single round if you can make a full horizontal blue row in addition to the 3 other orb color matches which isn't too hard considering you'd have both U&Y making blue orbs...That team would easily 1-2 round any red boss in the game
For a blue god like Hera-IS - You can easily kill her by using something like Artemis/ADK/Freyja/Yomi
U&Y is definitely a great thought experiment for a high level IAP player that has many high level subs and wants to tailor his team to the dungeon.
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Yeah the more I read and look through my box this morning that is how it is looking to me too.
D/L Yomi, D/L Batman, Hanzo, or even Dark / Blue Vamp or Blue / Dark when they come up. I also have a Gryps Rider Finn that could go in there or a Dragon Rider Arthur if I need more Light heavy.
None of this helps my friends list though
Think I'll get my U&Y up to 80/90 and then Awaken it and post on the Facebook group.
D/L Yomi, D/L Batman, Hanzo, or even Dark / Blue Vamp or Blue / Dark when they come up. I also have a Gryps Rider Finn that could go in there or a Dragon Rider Arthur if I need more Light heavy.
None of this helps my friends list though
go through the 46 page thread on puzzleanddragonforums.com about U&Y, there are sure to be enough higher level players there to fill up your friend's list.
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I am actually pretty pleased with the xp Scarlet princess gives. Over 3k for a 15 sta expert level is pretty solid. Weekend at master is a bit better but you don't get any feed-fodder (after 20M I stopped caring about the cash...). Takes some of the tedium of running it over and over at least!
Well, its more about saving certain monsters for conditionals to make sure you have a team ready 
4 star conditional (Ragnarok Odyssey on JP side)
5 star conditional (PAD Z Collab new on JP side)
10 team cost conditional (draggie)
12 team cost conditional (tengu)
Plan ahead (especially leaders!)
Draggies skill isnt useful... dont bother ugprading or skilling him up
4 star conditional (Ragnarok Odyssey on JP side)
5 star conditional (PAD Z Collab new on JP side)
10 team cost conditional (draggie)
12 team cost conditional (tengu)
Plan ahead (especially leaders!)
Draggies skill isnt useful... dont bother ugprading or skilling him up
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I just ran with D/D Batman, Dark Golem, Lilith, Vamp Lord, Dark Dragon Knight all about level 60. With friend D/D Batman I was at about 28k HP. Was really close a few times and think I got lucky with slime using no attack abilities, but made it through without using a stone. I'll leave the Batman up after super metal if anyone needs him (also have unevolved Shaitan if anyone is going fire route).
Its why NOT evoing Robin and D/D batman was such a good plan. Makes me sad to see a couple people from here evo them for minimal stat gains
Robin, TC:10 4* 8x dmg at 8x combos
D/D Batman, TC:10 4* 2xHP/ATK...
Sigh... difference between servers annoying me more and more...
Spent 7 stones so far on Twinlits dungeon this time around. I get 2 twinlit runs + 2 OoH runs + leftover.
Currently saved up:
9 Dub Mythlits
8 Mythlits
13 Devilits (used 1)
8 Angelits
9 Mystic Masks (from OoH)
5 Tamadra (used 15 so far not counting free)
Nicest OoH run recently...
Robin, TC:10 4* 8x dmg at 8x combos
D/D Batman, TC:10 4* 2xHP/ATK...
Sigh... difference between servers annoying me more and more...
Spent 7 stones so far on Twinlits dungeon this time around. I get 2 twinlit runs + 2 OoH runs + leftover.
Currently saved up:
9 Dub Mythlits
8 Mythlits
13 Devilits (used 1)
8 Angelits
9 Mystic Masks (from OoH)
5 Tamadra (used 15 so far not counting free)
Nicest OoH run recently...
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Scarlett Snake Princess is the biggest damn GungTroll ever. 360 stamina today (lucky only 1 stone since I leveled), for 4 Naga. 10 more total feeds today with no skill ups. I think my new goal will be to be the highest rank player with out a max level Echidna.
But I did max skill my Helldark Demon! Now to work on the Blue and Light one.
Also, I would strongly advise not rolling in Godfest tonight. Player's Choice is coming up next and should be much better.
But I did max skill my Helldark Demon! Now to work on the Blue and Light one.
Also, I would strongly advise not rolling in Godfest tonight. Player's Choice is coming up next and should be much better.
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I've done something like 18 now, got 8 Nagas (6 from trash drops, the boss stage pretty much never drops shit). It was streaky too. First six, nothing. Second six, eight eggs, including 3 from one run. Last six, not a goddamn thing... not even a single nagaspawnin the first four rooms, let alone an egg.
And of course I went 0 for 6 on skill-ups before finally getting one on the seventh. Menace seems pretty pointless in a Haku team unless it's down to 11 turns too; somehow I doubt I'm going to get it that low this weekend.
And of course I went 0 for 6 on skill-ups before finally getting one on the seventh. Menace seems pretty pointless in a Haku team unless it's down to 11 turns too; somehow I doubt I'm going to get it that low this weekend.
Dont forget about the large amount of monsters with the "skill boost" skill... Changing that 10 turn max cooldown to be even lower...
This Godfest good rolls:
Ares // Persephone // Dark Metatron (3/14)
Okay rolls:
Neptune // Hades // Green Odin (3/14)
Rerolls:
Everything else (8/14)
So... yeah... skip this godfest!
This Godfest good rolls:
Ares // Persephone // Dark Metatron (3/14)
Okay rolls:
Neptune // Hades // Green Odin (3/14)
Rerolls:
Everything else (8/14)
So... yeah... skip this godfest!
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I was saying that from that standpoint of wanting to use Menace in situations where I only managed to stall for 11 turns. Popping Menace at that point would guarantee that I could stall 3 more turns to have the Haku orb-changers available. In cases where I'm using Menace to stop certain-death situations from happening, then yeah, it would be cool to reduce the skills globally.
That said, I did check the list of monsters with a skill boost awakening before I used my Tamadras, and I don't think any of them will fit into my Haku team. My goal is three Hakus (counting friend leader) and Echidna with some combination of Hera/Hera-Is/Siegfried/CDK/FKK/Vampire/Loki/Yomi/Hades depending on what descends I clear and how kind the REM is to me during the player's choice godfest.
That said, I did check the list of monsters with a skill boost awakening before I used my Tamadras, and I don't think any of them will fit into my Haku team. My goal is three Hakus (counting friend leader) and Echidna with some combination of Hera/Hera-Is/Siegfried/CDK/FKK/Vampire/Loki/Yomi/Hades depending on what descends I clear and how kind the REM is to me during the player's choice godfest.
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Just for anyone curious, the players choice vote standings as of yesterday(13th). It ends today, so the only real drama is whether Umi&Yama will hold off Amaterasu.
========= Vote Tally =========
Archangel Lucifer - 729
Dark Angel Metatron - 444
Odin - 281
Hades - 260
Kushinadahime - 249
Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya - 228
Horus - 210
Yomi - 206
Viper Orochi - 163
Bastet - 154
Incarnation of Byakko, Haku - 140
Odin, the War Deity - 139
Neptune - 136
Venus - 129
Umisachi&Yamasachi - 125
Amaterasu - 124
Ares - 89
Persephone - 89
Isis - 87
Kagutsuchi - 71
Ra - 62
Ceres - 60
Anubis - 58
Baal - 55
Fallen Angel Lucifer - 55
Izanagi - 54
Archangel Raphael - 51
Archangel Metatron - 50
Astaroth - 41
Vritra - 40
Okuninushi - 39
Hermes - 38
Loki - 36
Indra - 34
Parvati - 34
Incarnation of Genbu, Meimei - 33
Artemis - 33
Idunn&Idunna - 32
Incarnation of Seiryuu, Karin - 31
Archangel Gabriel - 31
Apollo - 30
Susano - 28
Archangel Michael - 25
Minerva - 25
Archangel Uriel - 24
Incarnation of Suzaku, Leilan - 23
Freyja - 18
Belial - 17
Shiva - 16
Amon - 16
Thor - 14
Freyr - 12
Lakshmi - 8
Ame no Uzume - 7
========= Vote Tally =========
Archangel Lucifer - 729
Dark Angel Metatron - 444
Odin - 281
Hades - 260
Kushinadahime - 249
Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya - 228
Horus - 210
Yomi - 206
Viper Orochi - 163
Bastet - 154
Incarnation of Byakko, Haku - 140
Odin, the War Deity - 139
Neptune - 136
Venus - 129
Umisachi&Yamasachi - 125
Amaterasu - 124
Ares - 89
Persephone - 89
Isis - 87
Kagutsuchi - 71
Ra - 62
Ceres - 60
Anubis - 58
Baal - 55
Fallen Angel Lucifer - 55
Izanagi - 54
Archangel Raphael - 51
Archangel Metatron - 50
Astaroth - 41
Vritra - 40
Okuninushi - 39
Hermes - 38
Loki - 36
Indra - 34
Parvati - 34
Incarnation of Genbu, Meimei - 33
Artemis - 33
Idunn&Idunna - 32
Incarnation of Seiryuu, Karin - 31
Archangel Gabriel - 31
Apollo - 30
Susano - 28
Archangel Michael - 25
Minerva - 25
Archangel Uriel - 24
Incarnation of Suzaku, Leilan - 23
Freyja - 18
Belial - 17
Shiva - 16
Amon - 16
Thor - 14
Freyr - 12
Lakshmi - 8
Ame no Uzume - 7