Puzzles and Dragons

I wonder about Joker's active. I doubt there is any information, but do you folks figure it will draw from skills on your team, or any skill in the game? Skills on your team seems like it would be overpowered, especially with Joker being farmable to lower his cooldown.
I think a Robin would be good for me. I use Anubis regularly in tri-colors, and Robin would be like Anubis-lite with lower combos still doing decent damage.

LOLOL Joker fucking destroyed me

Only one wave... Preemptive Double Color Hammer->
21,000 dark multhit
6 Orbs Changed to Poison (3 orbs=20%, each orb +5% worst case: 3 & 3 = 40%)
Hits for 21060
One Color Hammer + 15210dmg
Hits for 21060
6 orbs to Poison
Delay 4 turns
Hits for 117000

Sad face.

Thinking 2xHP/RCV + Egyptian shouldnt be too hard as long as you get the HP... requirements... and dont get fucked on the jammers/poison Kirin or Bastet with awakenings seem like a good choice.

That 20k regular attack screwed my plan...

Actually, changed it all up...Going to try Green/Light Artemis (2atk/hp for light/green) + Blue JP2.0 (5x dmg when Wt Wd Lt Gr attack) and see how that goes...

I think thats the easiest way to get a high modifier and still meet the HP requirement.

Can anyone tell me why I should be excited for either batman or the godfest?

Kushinada seems weaker than Susano(which I have), although obviously not having any of his skillup collabs in the u.s. means I never use him.
Blue/Green god seems like weaker than Kirin, and I don't enjoy playing my Horus, don't think I'd enjoy any of the chinese style gameplay either... too mentally draining.

Izanagi might be good for me, I mean I've got a great collection of gods.... but 1.5x just seems downright terrible compared to 3.0x that other 9x burst teams have, especially since I can run either Freyja or King Shinee with Bastet leads soon. Which should burst for more damage... with similar HP... with 2x the RCV of a god team.

Ame no Uzume has a worthless active, I'd rather just bring an extra 5 turn heartmaker instead... I just don't see the point of a "red" god especially that would be used on a dungeon where the boss hits you every single turn requiring significant healing each turn...

Ok ... Okuninushi seems to be useful... obviously there is no way to skill him up, but I could see if you were running a dark or phsical team he's as good or better than an echidna for a delay like maybe on a 75x goemon physical team.


That said, I'd love to have an astaroth or a dark metatron (even though I don't have the required subs to use that team)... but I don't think wanting only 2 gods in a godfest would warrant rolling.

I guess catwoman might be useful if I ever just completely outlevel master level tricolor and can just 4x it or something instead of the usual 9x I bring.

Joker just seems like a slightly worse kagutsuchi, which I rolled last godfest (and haven't leveled up yet)

DL batman seems like he'd be decent again for a goemon physical team, or a delay, maybe replacing a titan?
DW batman maybe would fit into a rainbow balance team? Robin seems much the same, if you're struggling to find subs to fit into your cu chu team, I guess robin would fit...

d/d batman seems like he'd have a permanent spot in a Dark Metatron team, assuming you already had such a team...(but I don't have a hanzo or a dark rider)


I guess I'm just a little underwhelmed by this update.

All of jp 2.0 are solid leaders ranging from great to not bad. It has no value to you because of what is already in your box, but if you don't have any end game leaders it is a great pantheon.

Jp 2.0, Egyptian, Chinese and Angels are the most solid top to bottom on odds of getting a useful god.

I guess Izanagi got buffed to 2x atk to gods, so god team would be a bit more viable now. Might decide to stop leveling up my Valk and instead pump up my Athena and then focuson trying to skill up my verche (currently only at 2).

Athena/Athena, Zeus, Izanagi, Verche, Apollo? And I could sub in Uriel/Gabriel/Michael if I needed to run a rainbow setup and/or mindless farming. Not sure if it'd be better than a green Bastet team, I'd still be concerned about being unable to stall with dual Athena leads... I don't think I'd be able to make it 35 turns without a heartmaker and sub 2k RCV... so maybe replace zeus with my skilled up Parvati? Even then, I'm not sure which would be "better" ... Oh, I guess the new technical boss, Fagan would be the perfect sub for that team, 20% gravity starting at a 15 turn timer that would match athena...

Robin is another cool sub...
His Balance buff is always up (6 turn duration 6 turn cooldown)
4x when matching 8, 6x when matching 9, 8x when matching 10...


Final stats sort of suck though...
2645HP 1165HP 307RCV


Anyway.. just cheezed my way through the 50stam version...

Goemon team with 22,000+HP
Each Goemon has 4400...
Satan with 5900
Valk 2300
Baal 2400
Light Samurai 3300

Cheeeeeesy.

I had to eat a couple stones to get past him on Legendary. After realizing that charge skills were useless (no time to charge them up, he just comes out jamming and making life generally miserable turn 0) I basically built a glass cannon white team assuming I would be one shot on non-acid drop/jam rounds. Think it took 3 stones. Might have been able to build a grind team that would do it (will experiment later), but all the crap he fills the board with makes recovery look pretty dicey.

Someone who can actually use a double Ra team though could probably burst him down to count-down range in one round. He is pretty squishy.

decided to do a single batman pull:



Edit: decided to give my alt account a pull too ... exact same Batman.

Got Robin and D/D Batman.

So with Robin's permanent 1.2x active for Balance did Cu Chu teams just get a lot more attractive? After 6 turns they're permanently 10.8x attack now instead of the 9x of Healer/Devil/Physical/God teams, right?

CuChu/CuChu leads, CuChu, Robin, ADK, Zeus-Dios subs. Massive attack(9k+), Good HP(16k+), Decent RCV(2k+) and a constant string of greens always available. Could plug in King Woodie for 1 turn 27x attack(won't stack with Robin).

I dunno, there's some wiggle room with stuff like Toytops but still not a ton of flexibility in Balance, at least not if you're trying to keep it green.

The problem with trying to use a Ra team is that you need 22000hp to survive the first round...

The chances of being able to activate Ra on first round with 2 colors jammed... slim to none.

Its doable... but not as simple as with Goemon... Since you get first turn to clear jammers and your low dmg colors...
Get hit into 25X range..
Unleash the fury (bonus points for having 0rcv with satan etc) if you dont kill...
6 orbs to poison, leaving you 24 orbs to finish him off...

Just need to hit that magic HP number.

8 rolls on the Batman collab

2x Catwoman, 1@+1
1x Robin @ +1
1x D/B Batman
3x D/L Batman, 1@+1
1x D/D Batman

Not to shabby.

2X Catwoman
2X Robin
1X D/D Batman

After dropping stones to get joker too I think I am done... at least until my OCD about not having the other two Batmans kicks in.....

Trying to decide if I can build a Luci team to stall enough for Joker, looks possible on Master but not Legend. Would like to get a Joker just for farm status shit.

My Goemon team is nowhere near having the HP to do that method. Horus seems like a no go because all the blockers and just not enough damage. Red team could take 1 hit but would never be able to outlast the damage long enough to take him down.

BTW PDX says the Joker's random skill thing can be

Random Skill. This includes: Eastern Seven-Star Formation, Southern Seven-Star Formation, Western Seven-Star Formation, Northern Seven-Star Formation, Heat Breath, Hell Ball, Earth Ball, Orb Refresh, Change the World and Gravity

Formations are the Chinese leader ones that change orbs to their 3 trigger colors. Heat Breath and the Balls are weak nukes. Orb Refresh is board reset that Mastering has. Change the World is 10 second free move like Yomi. And Gravity is Gravity.


So really, pretty awful active.

I got worked by Joker with double luci, going to try that burn strategy with maybe double Ares since I dont have a light team.

It will take a few stones with red Krassus since you are reliant on passives.. double Valk is 18X against him (due to him being dark) and I ran an all white healer team on top of that (2X Messenger and a half evolved sub Valk), double Aries is only 4x and you are forced to red/dark in your team. The 4x hps will help but the board is so full of shit most of the time that recovery is a nightmare. Just wanted to caution you because that is going to be a lot of stones to get through it.

It might be cheaper (stone wise) to just go with something like a double luci stall team. Sacrificing some hps for higher recoveries if you have it (e.g. Lilith, Witch of the Night) sorts if you have it and just riding it out until Luci's cooldown is up.

Just theorycrafting. I only had a few minutes to screw with him before work this morning so not really sure what will work.