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You have 10 turns before you OHKOs you... Double Luci stall will not work. Since if you have the subs to get 110K+ hp... you have the subs to get a 22k Goemon team.

If you dont have 110k hp... then you are stoning or using a defensive cooldown...which in best case... wont be up before he kills you once...
 
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Going off the assumption you have 3 turns to kill him, trying to play with some math:

@ 1,503,750 hp you'd need to do 501,250 a turn
Double Goemon 25x is 20,050 damage per round / 3,342 per character
Double Valk 18x is 27,847 damage per round / 4,541 per character

I think you could realistically field a better Goemon team since 25x isn't limited by color or class. And with the jamming 1st round running a Horus (only 16x so even worse than Valk) / Ra (36x so a lot less damage per round) reduces your chances of pulling off a 4 or 5+ att combo. Plus with Goemon it should be that hard to get your HP above 22k, much easier than with Valk.... Dunno, still feeling better about G man chances.
 
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I got dark/blue batman
robin
catwoman x3

Oh and running the wed dungeon now for the third week streight with no mystic mask. Thats like 11 runs now if not more and not one fucking mask. I got the mats to evolve like 3 of my gods but NO FUCKING MASKS.
 
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mkopec_sl said:
I got dark/blue batman
robin
catwoman x3

Oh and running the wed dungeon now for the third week streight with no mystic mask. Thats like 11 runs now if not more and not one fucking mask. I got the mats to evolve like 3 of my gods but NO FUCKING MASKS.
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Masks have never been an issue for me... Dubs though.. those bastards elude me week after week.

Did not know about the 10 round thing DF.. good info! I saw him start the countdown but I assume it was hp threshold triggered since he was at ~20%ish when he started it.
 
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Df~_sl said:
You have 10 turns before you OHKOs you... Double Luci stall will not work. Since if you have the subs to get 110K+ hp... you have the subs to get a 22k Goemon team.

If you dont have 110k hp... then you are stoning or using a defensive cooldown...which in best case... wont be up before he kills you once...
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Does he run the same cycle of attacks? Was figuring 1-2 stones for RK cooldown to be up(1 if you have it skilled up at all or have a cooldown reducer, 2 otherwise) then you have 20ish turns for gravities and Lucis.

Of course that would be assuming you can keep up with the normal damage, which I'd surely fuck up multiple times.
 
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Goeman setup from DF worked for me on Master and LGD. I had to rerun Master the first time though because I got the HP ratios wrong.
 
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Pulled once and snagged Robin. Pretty happy, will probably use him as a mini Anubis when I'm unsure about my matching. Also useful in a team I've considered with Chu Chu and Godin, just need to find some more balance subs. Tempted to try again for D/D Batman, but will probably end up with Catwoman.
 
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Teddite_sl said:
Pulled once and snagged Robin. Pretty happy, will probably use him as a mini Anubis when I'm unsure about my matching. Also useful in a team I've considered with Chu Chu and Godin, just need to find some more balance subs. Tempted to try again for D/D Batman, but will probably end up with Catwoman.
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Man, I'm jealous of everyone's Robin. Tried 4 pulls and got 3 Catwomen and the common Batman. Feels bad, man.
 
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Man0warr_sl said:
Is D/D batman a better lead for monodark than D/D Spinas? I don't have Luci but I usually team with one.
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Depends on the dungeon... 4hp 2rcv 2atk (especially with d/d batman lead) wont have enough RCV to make use of the 4hp to keep up with sustained damage... but good enough to deal with spike damage. The one turn delay is also very useful (though having the D/L batman as a sub for more stats AND a 2 turn delay is nicer (if you already have another leader for the hp rcv or atk mods)


I cannot think of a single descend where I would prefer 4HP 2RCV 2ATK over 4HP 4RCV.

But... 4hp 2rcv 2atk is better than NOT having that :p

Tried helping a friend using Thanatos + Luci for 5xhp 2rcv... even with a listed RCV of 2000, couldnt keep up healing to take down Zeus Dios
 
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Df~_sl said:
Depends on the dungeon... 4hp 2rcv 2atk (especially with d/d batman lead) wont have enough RCV to make use of the 4hp to keep up with sustained damage... but good enough to deal with spike damage. The one turn delay is also very useful (though having the D/L batman as a sub for more stats AND a 2 turn delay is nicer (if you already have another leader for the hp rcv or atk mods)


I cannot think of a single descend where I would prefer 4HP 2RCV 2ATK over 4HP 4RCV.

But... 4hp 2rcv 2atk is better than NOT having that :p

Tried helping a friend using Thanatos + Luci for 5xhp 2rcv... even with a listed RCV of 2000, couldnt keep up healing to take down Zeus Dios
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Would a 5turn heart-maker mean it would be easier?
 
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How many hearts are you really getting with the 5 turn cooldown?

I guess you would only be getting 5 hearts or so... anymore and you would be hindering your combos to save up gems to convert...

Bulk added some stuff to US box to PADHerder...

Apart from Luci team... not sure what other top tier team I should be building...

The current levels dont actually mean anything...

PADherder: df's monsters


I have a pretty hilarious collection of Green/Light Team on US...

Michael + Godin + Valk + Athena + Skydragon + Fairlion + ZuesDios + Artemis(once busty evo comes out)


As for JP side... who should I feed my blue noel dragon to?

Shinji + Kaori (blue/black) 300k Luci nuke...
HP2170 ATK1915 RCV198

Blue JP2.0 (blue/green) double orb change...
HP2555 ATK1251 RCV551

I&I (blue/blue)

Neptune (probably black evo)

One of two Vipers...

Just have no clue who I would end up using most frequently...
 
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I've got the same collection of green, except add in a freyja Parvati bastet and Susano... I plan on running this godfest about 15 times, if I get an astaroth I'll probably run that (although obviously I think it'd be much better with a Neptune, which I unfortunately don't have), same with dark metatron, if I get an itzanagi I'll run that on a light/green Athena team.

If I get gungtrolled and get nothing good, I'll just stick to my plan on running a16x green bastet team. Which I think I'll prefer over my current mono-red which I mostly used to "get to endgame"

I'd definitely max out your blue lolcannon, especially if you've got Gabriel to run the ultimate blue tanking team (Hera-is, siren) 2 blue lolcannons and a Lakshmi is pretty damned attractive too, wish we had that collab in the u.s.
 
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You could make a bad ass awoken Satan team. Satan/satan, loki, persphone, hera-ur, duke vamp. 25k hp +80% dark damage from awoken skills, two orb changers, orb enhance and 1.5* damage for three turns.

I'm interested in the possibility of using rgg as a horus sub when he gets his ultimate red light evolution. Your rcv will take a big hit but valks stats kind of suck and heart-> red would get more value out of horus's skill.
 
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As my general teams power keeps creeping up... I am starting to regret all those eggs on Horus...

If I fed my Horus to someone else... and use one of the many 9x teams (devils, balance, attackers, healers) for farming... :p

I havent tried it yet but the only dungeon that MIGHT give me trouble that I actually still run would be Sea God of Heaven
 
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Sea god is super easy with an unegged devil and balance team. I almost never use horus and he is holding +100 eggs. I still don't know what to put my remaining +eggs on, I lead hera-ur most of the time but I don't see if +297 is going to move it from t5/sea god to descendeds.
 
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