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Loser Araysar

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You're dead on here. But if I do end up lying to her it won't be for fear of being shallow, it will be because I don't want to make her feel bad about something she can't change.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. How noble of you.
 

Khane

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Hey, I realize I'm being selfish and it's really just to make myself feel better about the whole situation but... you know... sometimes you just gotta Treat Yo' Self
 

Loser Araysar

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Well at least you're honest about it.

Still, it's a shitty thing you're doing. I've dumped girls over Seinfeld-esque quirks and regretted several of them to this day.



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Tuco

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Tell her and let us know the results. I know it'll work out well for you and her.
 

McCheese

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Bullshit she can change her voice.
How can you change the pitch of your voice? I mean, obviously you can raise or lower the pitch at will, but to do that for the rest of your life? You'd have to constantly be aware of it and actively doing it. It seems like it would be the equivalent of speaking in a fake accent forever. Doable, but exhausting, especially if it's something you have to do even in intimate settings (as in this case).
 

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How can you change the pitch of your voice? I mean, obviously you can raise or lower the pitch at will, but to do that for the rest of your life? You'd have to constantly be aware of it and actively doing it. It seems like it would be the equivalent of speaking in a fake accent forever. Doable, but exhausting, especially if it's something you have to do even in intimate settings (as in this case).
Takes like 6 weeks to make it a habit? There are speech therapists that can fix most things.
 

McCheese

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Takes like 6 weeks to make it a habit? There are speech therapists that can fix most things.
I have a hard time believing that it would ever be completely permanent and involuntary. Do male-to-female trannies ever accidentally slip out of their feminine voice during sex? Like, let out a big, loud, macho, "OH YEAH" due to a slip?

I can't believe I just googled that shit, but I did.www.voiceproblems.org:

Male-to-female sex changes, however, require a voice therapist to attend to softness of the voice, pitch, intonation patterns, length of utterance, linguistic differences, and differences in body language and gestures accompanying speaking. Feminine characteristics in these aspects of voice production are often absent directly after male-to-female sex change operations, and require dedication and many months or years to acquire.
Anyway, if you can't stand a girl's voice it's a perfectly legitimate reason to break up. It's no different than appearance. Sure, it can change through surgery or make up or whatever, but if you really don't like a certain aspect then it's pointless to stay together. What if a chick has a mustache? It can be waxed off every couple weeks so that you'd never really see it, but that doesn't mean you want to be with a mustachioed girl forever. That said, telling her "I can't stand your high pitched voice so we're through" would be a dick move.
 

Tuco

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Changing the detected gender of your voice is a completely different adjustment than just changing your pitch. You can change your pitch and make it a habit. And knowing that people were genuinely annoyed with the pitch of your voice would help guide you to that.
 

Loser Araysar

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Sooooo... was Khane's girlfriend molested?
 

a_skeleton_03

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Changing the detected gender of your voice is a completely different adjustment than just changing your pitch. You can change your pitch and make it a habit. And knowing that people were genuinely annoyed with the pitch of your voice would help guide you to that.
She might have no clue her voice is annoying.
 

Khane

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Well at least you're honest about it.

Still, it's a shitty thing you're doing. I've dumped girls over Seinfeld-esque quirks and regretted several of them to this day.
I will most likely end up telling her the truth because the same thing always inevitably happens. I try to let her down easy, she sees it as "Well maybe we just aren't giving it a real shot, I can try harder", we go back and forth for 15 minutes and eventually I get aggravated and just tell her the truth. Better to just skip those first two steps.

I am going to give this one an actual chance for a little while longer though. Up until this point I haven't really treated it like anything more than a convenience and steady sex but I do really enjoy her company so I feel like I have to at least try to put in an effort before I say "no way". The reason I was asking for opinions is because I'm really trying to put everything into perspective rather than doing what I've done for the past year and a half (just have some fun with someone for a little while then move on)
 

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I will most likely end up telling her the truth because the same thing always inevitably happens. I try to let her down easy, she sees it as "Well maybe we just aren't giving it a real shot, I can try harder", we go back and forth for 15 minutes and eventually I get aggravated and just tell her the truth. Better to just skip those first two steps.

I am going to give this one an actual chance for a little while longer though. Up until this point I haven't really treated it like anything more than a convenience and steady sex but I do really enjoy her company so I feel like I have to at least try to put in an effort before I say "no way". The reason I was asking for opinions is because I'm really trying to put everything into perspective rather than doing what I've done for the past year and a half (just have some fun with someone for a little while then move on)
Whether it's a shitty thing to do shouldn't factor into your decision. If her voice is going to be a constant problem for you, it's better to cut ties as soon as you realize it, regardless of whether you tell her the truth or not. Don't be miserable the rest of your life because leaving a chick for her voice is "mean". Not being miserable trumps being a dick.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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I'm sorry, being honest and telling a chick your are dumping her over some physical attribute is not the honorable thing to do. They have enough complexes about their looks as is.. Being "honest" in this situation may give you some false sense of integrity, but it will be at the expense of her feelings. She already knows her voice is fucked up and if she wanted to do something about it she would have already. You pouring more fuel on the fire may make you technically "honest", but it will also make you a jackass.
 

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Have you tried stretching her throat out? With your cock, of course.

When I was dating, I got lots of pussy from eharmony, even more than I'd gotten from adult friend finder, which is what I tried first. I was on PoF too, and talked to a few chicks, but the only one I ever met from there was the one I wound up marrying. I mention that because its the exact opposite of what you'd expect. Wife and I were both on Eharmoney they just never matched us up.
 

Khane

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Have you tried stretching her throat out? With your cock, of course.

When I was dating, I got lots of pussy from eharmony, even more than I'd gotten from adult friend finder, which is what I tried first. I was on PoF too, and talked to a few chicks, but the only one I ever met from there was the one I wound up marrying. I mention that because its the exact opposite of what you'd expect. Wife and I were both on Eharmoney they just never matched us up.
I get more pussy from Match than I did on PoF too. Women think that just because they are paying and more people are genuinely looking for something real that it's OK to put out sooner or something I suppose. Who knows. The obvious solution to my dating woes is to get back on PoF.
 

Tuco

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I'm sorry, being honest and telling a chick your are dumping her over some physical attribute is not the honorable thing to do. They have enough complexes about their looks as is.. Being "honest" in this situation may give you some false sense of integrity, but it will be at the expense of her feelings. She already knows her voice is fucked up and if she wanted to do something about it she would have already. You pouring more fuel on the fire may make you technically "honest", but it will also make you a jackass.
If girls were dumping you because your voice had too high of a pitch would you want to know? I sure as shit would.