Vorph
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If you're going for the legendary bison you really should tame an Arabian (best wild horse in the game) while you're out there too.
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Red Dead Redemption 2
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a c i d.f l y
ಠ_ಠ
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Re: the graphical issues and quality differences between PS4/PS4 Pro/XBOX1X, missing commentary about HDR, though.
Some elements of the game can be really frustrating.
A guy pushes me as I'm walking out of a saloon so I naturally antagonize him, expecting a fun bar fight. He then punches me, so I punch back. Suddenly half the town comes running at me trying to beat the crap out of me, so I run and they just unload their weapons on me. They chase me out of town still trying to murder me, so I fire back and kill one of them and I lose karma for it...
The karma/bounty system needs some work or some much clearer information as to why people react the way they do.
A guy pushes me as I'm walking out of a saloon so I naturally antagonize him, expecting a fun bar fight. He then punches me, so I punch back. Suddenly half the town comes running at me trying to beat the crap out of me, so I run and they just unload their weapons on me. They chase me out of town still trying to murder me, so I fire back and kill one of them and I lose karma for it...
The karma/bounty system needs some work or some much clearer information as to why people react the way they do.
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Synj
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I'm not saying you're wrong but it kind of makes sense in a real world way. Hear me out.
If you were some place and some chump cuts in front of you, you have a choice: 1) say nothing and just let the fucker beat you by 30 seconds or 2) give him some lip and see where it goes. 20-25 years ago I picked #2 every time. Now, I have kids and way too much to lose, I'm probably just gonna mental murder the fucker and be on my way. Not every time, but usually I'm smart enough to just let shit pass.
But every idiot I've ever met with a fucked up life it's usually because they cannot de-escalate certain situations. In fact it's all about escalation. This is the very heart of "he disrepected me". It's almost always over some dumb shit. Always.
So in that regard, maybe it makes sense in game? Now whether that makes it fun or not is a different question.
The other thing that occurs to me is, why do I care? I mean sure it affects endings and such, but I'm trying to take the approach that I'm not going for a perfect playthrough. I'm just trying to see how shit plays out, good or bad. It's much less stressful that way for me.
Just some thoughts.
Ambiturner
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Not sure how that addresses the issue of people attacking you and you being wanted for defending yourself.
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That doesn't explain why other fights don't always work like this. Why only half the town aggro'd while the others didn't. Why there was no indication why the ones that aggro'd did so, why they're freaking out about me defending myself from someone, why they'd outright try to murder me for throwing a punch, and a dozen other elements to it.
And as for why someone should care, it comes down to games needing to be consistent in their game mechanics or it's just poorly designed.
If a couple of his buddies had just decided to throw-in to help their friend? I'd be all about that. But what actually happened was the moment I returned a punch, 6-8 randoms from various sections of the town suddenly decided to mob me, with no indications as to why, then decided to murder me when I tried to run.
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Synj
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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Synj
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That came off wrong. I meant why should I care if I take a karma hit. That’s the internal conversation I have with myself, not directed at your comment.
Lol that sounds awesome, the chaos that is. I get what you’re saying. I’m just playing contrarian but obviously not well, and was just throwing out my idea.
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Drinsic
privileged excrementlord
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Wanted/karma is definitely fucky. Like the first duel you come across. Dude shoots his opponent dead right in front of you and 10 other people, bragging the whole time, and no sheriffs come shooting and no civilians freak out. Just another day in Valentine. Challenges you afterward, and if you accept and win? You done murder! Quick, get the sheriff! Makes no sense.
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Oh yeah, I don't particularly mind the karma hit other than it encourages me to do good things to counterbalance it. What bothers me about it is that it just doesn't make much sense. If someone is trying to kill me, killing them in self-defence and looting them should not be a negative.
Maybe they designed the system to be more about Arthur being an order/chaos element on the world rather than good/evil, so anything outside of societal norms is considered bad
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Synj
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Completely unrelated but technically we’re an EQ board so fuck it, but does anyone else remember EQ beta when they implemented faction?
There used to be no faction messages. You had zero idea how your kills were affecting your faction unless you paid attention to lore and even then it was crazy convoluted.
I remember getting into a spawn kill loop in Qeynos and having zero idea why the guards were spawn killing me.
I found out later, my faction had taken some hits for doing some quest in Blackburrow and I guess there were good guard and corrupt guard factions. I managed to piss off the corrupt guards that were right next to my bind spot and hadn’t the slightest idea.
I lost 4 levels and the beta GMs told me, “working as intended!” LOL!
Talk about a fucked up system.
There used to be no faction messages. You had zero idea how your kills were affecting your faction unless you paid attention to lore and even then it was crazy convoluted.
I remember getting into a spawn kill loop in Qeynos and having zero idea why the guards were spawn killing me.
I found out later, my faction had taken some hits for doing some quest in Blackburrow and I guess there were good guard and corrupt guard factions. I managed to piss off the corrupt guards that were right next to my bind spot and hadn’t the slightest idea.
I lost 4 levels and the beta GMs told me, “working as intended!” LOL!
Talk about a fucked up system.
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Synj
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Ambiturner
Ssraeszha Raider
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If someone kills someone else in self defense they dont typically start going through their pockets and removing their jewelry.
So i'm fine with taking a hit for that, even though looting dead things is video games 101.
So i'm fine with taking a hit for that, even though looting dead things is video games 101.
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Nester
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Some people call this a game a horse riding simulator, but with this bounty system it feels more like a “Black in America” simulator.
While I recommend this game all I can think of while playing is that this game is a missed opportunity to be the best game of all time. The graphics and story and immersion are 10/10 but the controls are painful and I need a slider for less reaslism and more quality of life.
Examples: why do I put my rifle back in my horse and remove it from my inventory every time?
I just finished AC odyssey. They should have copied thier controls and horse movement.
No horse auto run to map marker? I guess that’s ok, but not when hitting a bolder on horseback kills me.
It’s like they made. 10/10 game then tried to suck some of the fun out of it.
While I recommend this game all I can think of while playing is that this game is a missed opportunity to be the best game of all time. The graphics and story and immersion are 10/10 but the controls are painful and I need a slider for less reaslism and more quality of life.
Examples: why do I put my rifle back in my horse and remove it from my inventory every time?
I just finished AC odyssey. They should have copied thier controls and horse movement.
No horse auto run to map marker? I guess that’s ok, but not when hitting a bolder on horseback kills me.
It’s like they made. 10/10 game then tried to suck some of the fun out of it.
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DickTrickle
Definitely NOT Furor Planedefiler
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If you enter cinematic mode while on a path and moving, it will take you to your waypoint (or at least closest path to it). It makes the long rides across the map a lot less tedious but you still have to wait the full time and you're not protected from events (like getting held up) so don't go AFK.
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Dandai
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I got to the end of a side quest and caused this poor dude to have an existential crisis and full blown breakdown on his hands and knees. The cinematic camera slowly panned around the both of us to give an emotional punch to the gut. It was quite the moment (spoilered for size, not an actual spoiler):
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Utnayan
F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
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