Gryphe
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How about you go back a couple pages and learn how shitty an R-squared value below 0.1 is.
Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Did you even read the article? The problem with him wasn't that he was her doormat, it was that he had no interests or anything of his own. It's pretty much a relationship axiom that you can't make anyone else happy until you can make yourself happy. He was a sad sloth. It has NOTHING to do with him refusing her. It has to do with him having his own interests.
Again, I get why you want to see it the way you do, but the facts of the article don't support you.
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This is going nowhere. We agree on 90%+ of this. Here's the litmus test:
If he went to the baby shower, and then went golfing later in the week, would his wife find him interesting?
Do bitches love plaid?
Lol yeah, it was his interests that lit her desire fire. Golf baby.
It has absolutely everything to do with refusing her.
It has absolutely everything to do with refusing her.
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Probably.
In any normal relationship (i.e. not yours) you do some of the wife's stuff that she's interested in and she does some stuff that you're interested in, and then you both have alone time where you pursue your individual interests. There's nothing wrong with going to a baby shower or going shoe shopping or anything else she wants, within reason. It's called spending time with her. I personally hate the shoe shopping and usually refuse, but I'll go clothes shopping.
Yes, she very well might have. I give and take all the time.
Let's play in your world for a minute. He says yes to going to the baby shower, he then takes her from behind in the bathroom while that stupid bitch Jenny is outside knocking on the door waiting to get in so she can piss out all that pumpkin spice latte she has been drinking all day. Alpha. As. Fuck. Still goes to the baby shower though.
That is the entire point you morons are missing. There are a TON of decisions that can change relationships. Every "beta" decision doesn't have to demote a dude instantly and every "alpha" decision isn't going to promote him on the spot.
You have so much to learn just about life and it saddens me that you took the first thing that "worked" and turned it into the cult of your life. I am only 34 and I could probably teach you so much. You wouldn't be banging out 22 year olds, you would have a meaningful relationship full of good times and progeny to pass it on to.
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Wow, that's fascinating. It's a wonder his interests in marijuana and gaming didn't arouse the same desire as his love of golf.
Tiger Woods saves another marriage.
I already explained how he could have done both and still been alpha. Keep up.
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There was no take in the relationship.
I'm arguing when he started taking things got better.
You're saying he could have given, and then taken, and things would get better.
Yes. We're saying the same thing. Why aren't you understanding this?
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Look at you boys, swallowing this red pill shit like it's something new. Yeah, we were slaves bred to act pretty much just like slaves. You want recipes? ??? WE have several. Sorry you were lied to. Knock knock motherfuckers.
If there was no take in that relationship he wouldn't have been able to say no to the baby shower. You can't have it both ways.
You can't have it both ways. There is ALWAYS take.
He DID finally take and I told you a way he could have taken and given at the same time.
We aren't saying the same thing. I am saying that one action doesn't change a relationship. You are saying one time of being alpha changes everything. This guy wasn't even alpha, he just wasn't as much of a beta as before.
The difference between what I am saying and you are saying is that you are putting absolutes out there. There is only one absolute about relationships and that is there are no absolutes, absolutely.
I will go back to my earlier statement in this thread that love is a verb. It isn't a feeling, it is an action. It is something you actively work at. If people just stopped giving up immediately there wouldn't be room for people like you.
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Except in this case, which you admit in the next line.
We're saying the same thing.
This deserves a double Picard facepalm. Not only did you NOT read the article, you jumped into a conversation without reading what was being discussed.
That's actually a pretty effective trolling tactic. Props for that.
We got started on this because we're talking about the moment when the relationship changed. It's literally the one action that changed their relationship, as described in the article.
I did read the entire article. You didn't read all of my responses. I specifically said that I doubt that one thing was what changed everything. I said that was probably the most memorable moment when she was being asked to pinpoint one thing.
Himeo: "It was totally him wanting to go play golf that changed everything!"
Rest of thread: "No, it was him working on turning himself into someone worth being in a relationship."
Himeo: "LOL READ THE ARTICLE"
Rest of thread: "I hope that red pill is full of cyanide."
Rest of thread: "No, it was him working on turning himself into someone worth being in a relationship."
Himeo: "LOL READ THE ARTICLE"
Rest of thread: "I hope that red pill is full of cyanide."
Himeo
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This is dumb. New topic.
A lot of the guys in here might think that a 1 - 1 give and take is ideal.
Red Pill proposes a 1 - 2 relationship. For every two things your woman gives you, you give one.
What are your thoughts on that?
Assuming give and take. Before Red pill my relationships ran a lot like the guy in the article. Nine out of ten times I'd defer to my girl and shit was horrible.
A lot of the guys in here might think that a 1 - 1 give and take is ideal.
Red Pill proposes a 1 - 2 relationship. For every two things your woman gives you, you give one.
What are your thoughts on that?
I personally couldn't be in a relationship where the woman I'm with is subservient. Some dudes dig that though. What's the moral of the story? People are different. Again, people want, expect, or desire different things from different people.
I'm a big believer in the 2/3rds ratio, seems like I've had the most success with it.