Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

Caeden · Sep 10, 2014

FYI, I discussed partner numbers with all the ones I had that ended up being prudes aside from the one I work with. A few were quite disgusted at my number. I also live in the south which again skews things very conservatively.

I did notice that # of partners in my experience was inversely proportional to the chicks income. Even if you multiply by three like I usually do. So again, poor life choices/idiocracy vs self esteem/good decisions?

All factors

lurkingdirk · Sep 10, 2014

Man, you have posted 30 times in less than the last day. Many of them lengthy posts with numerous links in them, and you have convinced exactly no one. Have a look:

Antarius_sl said:
I started reading this today (it just came out today), it's probably one of the most unintentionally red pill books EVER.

Dataclysm: Who We Are (When We Think No Ones Looking): Christian Rudder: 9780385347372: Amazon.com: Books

The Consuming Instinct: What Juicy Burgers, Ferraris, Pornography, and Gift Giving Reveal About Human Nature - Kindle edition by Gad Saad, David M. Buss. Health, Fitness Dieting Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

If you'd prefer his textbook instead of the mass market edition:

Amazon.com: Evolutionary Psychology in the Business Sciences (9783540927839): Gad Saad: Books

Antarius_sl said:
You'd appreciate the 2nd book I linked, because it SPECIFICALLY shows how the food you eat, the cars your drive, and the video games you play is influenced by evolutionary biology.

Antarius_sl said:
I needed the red pill to come out of my relationship slumber and finally get some.

I am painfully aware that everyone else was having sex. Girls that are losing their virginity 13-15 aren't doing it with the guys playing Everquest, even if they play on the hardcore pvp server!

Antarius_sl said:
I was in Malignant for the first year, then Hate until WoW came out.

Antarius_sl said:
Listen, ok, you wanted fucking concrete science, not all science is groundbreaking, many important discoveries have come about by challenging commonly held assumptions. It's not quite Freakonomics, but it is still pretty entertaining and the science is solid.

Antarius_sl said:
Listen, the 30% fact at that clinic is correct... all it's saying that SOME of the men know they are not the fathers, but because A) The woman is a whore and couldn't figure out who the father is, or B) The law is retarded and assumes a husband is the father of the baby no matter what... doesn't mean the 30% figure is wrong... just that it ONLY means that 30% of the time, YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER - as maury would say. Sure, that's not quite cuckolding, but that's only because these particular men were smart enough to figure it out and get tested. Many men, including some of the people refuting the red pill in this very thread, because they are married to unicorns, would never even consider the possibility that their wives could have ever cheated. So that's where the 10% "actual" figure comes from.

And again, the 10% number doesn't take into account single mothers fucking the bad boy alpha for genetics in her early 20s, and then marrying a beta male provider 26-30, because that's literally 75% of the women on okcupid. The number would shoot up far past 10% if you took female hypergamy into account.

Antarius_sl said:
3% estimate is among married people with zero evidence or suspicion of infidelity. If you're not married, that figure jumps up. If you suspect your partner is unfaithful that's where the 30% figure comes in.

Did you even read that 2nd link? When they RANDOMLY tested women in England, the number was 17% MINIMUM.

Again, random testing... 11.8%

So then here is the whole reason that study is flawed...

It then takes a sex study, where participants were ASKED if they cheated on their spouse... 4% said yes. Therefore the researchers concluded that IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR MARRIED WOMEN TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE'S BABY BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LYING ON A SURVEY AND PATIENTS NEVER LIE. SO CLEARLY ONLY 3% IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WHY WOULD WOMEN EVER LIE ABOUT CHEATING ON THEIR SPOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So then it mentions the 30% number for the u.s. paternity tests, and the 20% figure for australian tests, and concludes that the number can't possibly be reliable because it's only men who suspect infidelity getting tested and the numbers are fake because those guys are lying just to get business!!!

So this article completely discounts all the prior medical tests that show in random testings of the population, without their knowledge of the paternity test being taken, it's greater than 10%.

He did no research of his own... he just compiled data from other people, much like what you and I are capable of doing, and concluded that it's 3%... because people don't lie in surveys, and ummm, married people only have a 3% risk. So there is no way it's 10% in the general population.

Antarius_sl said:
But yes, again, the first article showed, among people that share a name, ie: Married prior to birth, the rate is around 3%. I have never disputed that.

Unfortunately, in some places here in the u.s. 75% of children are being born out of wedlock (example: shithole places like Cleveland). The average rate nationwide is 40%

Latest Statistics on Out-of-Wedlock Births | National Review Online

So great, if you're married, and the woman tags you as the father of the child, 3% chance she's wrong. That doesn't mean 3% of women are cheating, it means 3% of women are getting pregnant with another man because they aren't even using birth control or protection, while married.

If you're not married, and the woman tags you as the father of the child, 10% chance says she's wrong. Again, that doesn't mean 10% of women are having sex with men other than their boyfriends, it means that 10% of the time, if she is rawdogging another man and HE gets her pregnant but not you, even though you were doing it also. The actual number of women that are having unprotected sex with multiple men is FAR higher than 10%.

If you're not married and the woman doesn't know who the father of the child is, 30% of the time she'll get it wrong.\\

Antarius_sl said:
FROM YOUR FUCKING LINK, I READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE!!!

It cites several random medical studies which showed anywhere between 11% to 17% as the minimum possible numbers for incorrectly attributed paternity... And then he draws the wrong conclusion in his summary. Did you not even read what I wrote?

Antarius_sl said:
Rampant misattributed paternity: the creation of an urban myth | Monash University ARROW Repository

Antarius_sl said:
The urban legend is that 10% of men are raising someone else's baby. The fact is, it's only 3% of married men... and then creates a sensationalism pro-feminism headline, despite acknowledging that ... in a random test of the population, it's anywhere between 11-17% of the time... not the father.

Antarius_sl said:
Literally one line prior, he cites the mexican study from 1999 that showed the random sampling of close to 400 babies that the rate was 11.8%

So here is the problem... he only calls it "non-paternity" if the couple is MARRIED and the husband is raising someone else's baby. If the couple merely "HAS" a baby and the man thinks it is his, but they weren't married, he dismisses that because it doesn't fit his "legal" definition of "non-paternity"... despite the legal ramifications, such as in the u.s. where child support can literally cripple a man... which is the whole reason that paternity testing organizations show a 30% rate... when the men has a financial reason to doubt the woman... 30% of the time he'll win.

Antarius_sl said:
I'm talking about the mexican study that found 11.8%

Phillipp study showed that 17% was the minimum.

Antarius_sl said:
It's only 4 pages, I've read fucking Jive Turkey being a retard for longer than his "research paper" which was probably just some fucking undergrad's class requirement or something.

Antarius_sl said:
Look, you can get the original paper from one of the lead researcher's website..

http://www.toddkshackelford.com/down...elford-ASB.pdf

Here is the money quote:

The genetic transmission of blood type was examined by typing
newborns, mothers, and fathers in the Blood Grouping Laboratory near Boston?s Children
Medical Center. This research revealed an incidental finding of a HNP of approximately 10%.

Antarius_sl said:
I can't fucking link the table, but Yes, there are MANY studies that show 10% to 30% rates... and the ONLY ones less than that are the ones where the patients were informed about the genetic testing prior, so that they could exclude themselves from participation (ie: they don't want the fathers to find out)

Antarius_sl said:
Most populations .... used in the scientific sense of "population" ex: if you're married and rich, it's not 10%, if could be close to 2%. If you're unmarried and poor, 9.6%

Antarius_sl said:
You conveniently left out this part

A second method would be to secure historical hospital files of blood-typed newborns and their parents to determine HNP.

So they took blood from the 1940s, collected on people at random, prior to the age of genetic testing and consent laws, before women would be concerned about paternity tests, and then applied modern genetic testing on it... and found it at a 10% rate.

And the reason they had to take blood from the 1940s...

Because women will lie. So when you have opt-in, it's 2% (modern methods of collection), when it's truly random (mexican study 1999) (1940s blood samples) the rate is 10%

Antarius_sl said:
I didn't ignore it, the meta analysis said 9.6%

OK YOU FUCKING WIN, IT'S NOT 10% JESUS CHRIST.

Antarius_sl said:
You mean like Richard Dean Anderson?

Antarius_sl said:
What? No, you're fucking retarded.

Antarius_sl said:
Please, this is the internet, WE MUST DEFEND OUR WIVE'S HONOR WITH OUR LIVES, WHITE KNIGHTS UNITE! HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH HER GOOD NAME, JUST BECAUSE SHE SLEPT WITH 80 MEN DOES NOT MAKE HER A WHORE AND HOW DARE YOU INSINUITE OTHERWISE YOU DEADEYED PSYCHOPATHIC CRETIN!

(how did I do imitating their style?)

Antarius_sl said:
I didn't call every woman used up at 30, those words were inserted by the people attacking me, I just said that I limit my search on okcupid to 22-30. I have been getting enough attention in that age range that I don't need to search outside of it.

You choose to call it misogyny because I stop at 30? But where do you draw the line? Should I be dating 60 year old women? 50? You're in an untenable position to be in when you're trying to regulate my attraction. You're upset because I'm dating women younger than myself? I guarantee just as many women refuse to date younger men as men refuse to date older women.

The fact that I am dating other women HELPS me attract other women. You cannot argue against it, because it's the reality that I'm faced with. It's actually easier for me to date 5 women, than it was for me to get my first after my long-term relationship ended.

3 of those women are dating other men. 1 of them has been in a 4 year relationship with a woman, she does not know that her partner is A) Cheating B) Attracted to men.

You want to talk about empathy? Consider yourself in her position, she thinks she's with the love of her life, they have each other's names tattoo'ed on their body. She would be in this thread arguing that it would be impossible for her partner to even THINK about cheating.

I argue so strongly in this thread in favor of red pill, because I see how strongly this stuff works against ALL women, even the ones in relationships. Women on vacation, women that don't think they will get caught. I've seen so many women over the last couple years that see no problem with the behavior, that I've learned not to be bothered by it anymore.

Cad is 100% correct: I don't know if you've ever cheated on your wife, I can't know that, that's between you and your own morality, but I know that I've helped many other wives cheat on their husbands.

Antarius_sl said:
If a man calls your wife a whore, because he's paid her money to have sex with her. That is him doing you a favor, letting you know the truth. The fact that you get upset at the truth is strange to me, I'd want to know. I have paid married women to have sex with them. I have done it for free. I've never once told the man about the true nature about his "love". That's between you and her. But I'd want to know.

Antarius_sl said:
You're right... it's only a "certain type" of woman...
It's the one that uses online dating, goes to bar, or goes to a club. So, next time you're with a woman, ask if she's done any of those activities.

Antarius_sl said:
Predates red pill by about 3 1/2 years

Antarius_sl said:
Thanks for the support, but I actually only "eat shit" on this forum, and it's screenshots, so it's kind of expected, and I have no problem taking what I myself am willing to dish out. Out in the real world things are going good and I don't "get shit on" by any of my friends or co-workers, the guys I work with love hearing my dating stories (for obvious reasons, not "all" of them are told there (the embarassing ones), just like not "all" of them are told here either (the boring ones). I get more shit at work about the fact that I'm 32 and have roommates. The fact I'm dating multiple women has never once been brought up in a negative light.

Antarius_sl said:
Listen, you just described AF/BB

A late 20s woman is looking for a BB provider. If you want to fuck her, you have to "attract her" in her logical, rational centers of her brain, prove that you'll be a good lifemate, and that she would do good to invest her time with you. I used to do this very naturally, I had many "successful" 3-6 month relationships with women like this, this is what I naturally gravitated to from the advice I'd been given in TGTBYHT on foh years ago.

You provided Alpha tingles to the pharm tech, you probably won't even remember her 20 years from now, but she'll remember you, especially if she decides to "settle down and look for a life partner" and you were the last "bad boy" that she dated. These are the women that I am aiming for right now, why waste my time with someone that isn't going to make me happy like your girl that "went nowhere", you wasted your time and money, I can detect women that are in this phase of their life and nope the fuck out within a few minutes.

Antarius_sl said:
Listen, I appreciate your attempt to communicate rather than just trolling like Jizz turkey and a few other posters here...

But here is the problem, you think I'm trying to find "an end-game goal" by having a lot of sex.

When I "first" started learning PUA stuff and started getting advice 7 years ago on fohguild about relationships, I had the same mentality... Well I will never get to bang super models, I just want to find a good woman, be happy, and maybe settle down and have a few kids... it's ok if she's not perfect, because I'm not perfect...
That didn't make me happy. It actually made me depressed as hell. I started improving my life, and the women that I was dating weren't really all that interesting, college dropouts working retail jobs and overweight single mothers. But I just wanted to do anything to avoid the bitter loneliness, and I realized that I had motivation, and that the only thing motivating the women I was dating was to get married to me so that they could live a more comfortable life. The sex was mediocre, but at least I was "getting some"... I thought I wasn't an ambitious person, but then I started dating people going nowhere with their lives, and when you're a single mother living in ohio with nothing more than a high school education, and you're about a 6 in looks... unfortunately, well, that's not my fault.

The more I have embraced red pill philosophy, the happier I have became... I improved myself.

You keep preaching this way of life, so you should be out there banging all these women. Instead, you spend time here, mentally masturbating and trying to convince yourself and others of a ridiculous philosophy. People are so successfully trolling you, it's ridiculously entertaining to watch.

C'mon, man. You're falling short.

Phazael · Sep 10, 2014

Well here is a sad truth Antman. At some point, your libido is going to wear down and throwing a load into the youngest skank in arms reach is not going to give you that immediate sense of euphoria that you currently associate with it. You were a late bloomer who wants to dip your wick. I get that and totally empathize. But at some point, unless you want to be that 50-60 year old guy in the leisure suit popping girls at the titty bar to feel relevant, you are going to want something more out of life that what your dick tells you to do. Treating all women like the enemy and painting them with a broad brush is not going to get you there. You might be happy now, and your dick apparently is, but 40 is not as far away as it seems and if you are focused on pump em and dump em the entire way there, you are likely going to miss a chance at some real long term fulfilling happiness in your life. No one is telling you to lower your standards for an actual relationship. Just stop putting everything in your life with a set of tits into some bullshit category and writing it off. You might be surprised what happens at some point.

Phazael · Sep 10, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
Oh don't even. No one is making any of us read this bucket of crazy. No one is ramming anything down anyone's anywhere.

We are all watching a train wreck of our own free will. But about half of it is Antarius and Dumar proselytizing their current dogma, the church of the Holy Red Pill. Dumar I could give to fucks about. Antarius seems like a decent guy who just really wanted to get laid and joined the cult out of desperation.

TrollfaceDeux · Sep 10, 2014

johnny treats women like they should be treated.

a_skeleton_03 · Sep 10, 2014

My roommates don't think I am crazy at all ... never tells them what he actually believes in.

Jive Turkey · Sep 10, 2014

Khane_sl said:
That's the best part. All women act instinctively based on... confirmation bias. Yet the two of them are NOT acting instinctively. They've overcome their instincts by buying into an ideology. Women, however, are incapable of overcoming instincts regardless of any other factors at play.

I was just about to post this. Have a net

Jive Turkey · Sep 10, 2014

Antarius_sl said:
If a man calls your wife a whore, because he's paid her money to have sex with her. That is him doing you a favor, letting you know the truth. The fact that you get upset at the truth is strange to me, I'd want to know. I have paid married women to have sex with them. I have done it for free. I've never once told the man about the true nature about his "love". That's between you and her. But I'd want to know.

wat

I know you can read the words, but I have a hard time believing you understand anything apart from a very superficial meaning of them. Is this post tongue in cheek or are you really this fucking socially retarded?

Jive Turkey · Sep 10, 2014

Kirun_sl said:
I've also thoroughly enjoyed all the people telling Antarius that his choice to bang lots of women is meaningless. To who? You? Or that even if he has fun now, he won't be truly fulfilled at age 50. He wont betrulyhappy, like everyone else is with their Victoria Secret, supermodel wife. People get joy and fulfillment out of life from things other than you do, news at 11. It all just reads as a bunch of insecure guys trying to justify their choice of monogamy.

If they went about their business paying for prostitutes and banging 4s with low self esteem, nobody would say a word. It's the misplaced arrogance and neckbeard pseudo science parading as fact that most of us are commenting on.

Jive Turkey · Sep 10, 2014

Antarius_sl said:
You're right... it's only a "certain type" of woman...
It's the one that uses online dating, goes to bar, or goes to a club. So, next time you're with a woman, ask if she's done any of those activities.

Last year a group of PUA scheduled some sort of sad faux macho gathering at a shopping mall in the city to do a mass pick up.... thing... whatever you want to call it. So there was some discussion of your clowns and your tactics at the time. Every single girl I know thinks you guys are the biggest bunch of greasy loser jokers they can imagine. Your shit doesn't work on the girls worth picking up; the ones with self esteem and self worth. You get the run off. If you're happy with that, fine, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're getting quality. The pretty and smart ones are laughing at you

Gavinmad · Sep 10, 2014

Jive Turkey_sl said:
Your shit doesn't work on the girls worth picking up; the ones with self esteem and self worth. You get the run off. If you're happy with that, fine, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're getting quality. The pretty and smart ones are laughing at you

Let's not go too far. PUA shit works on pretty much all women, even smart ones with self esteem.

Eidal · Sep 10, 2014

Gavinmad_sl said:
Let's not go too far. PUA shit works on pretty much all women, even smart ones with self esteem.

You can't define "any method in which a man speaks with a woman" as PUA shit. PUA shit = everything sensible and then all the zany crap like peacocking and negging. And yea, some of that weirdass shit is not going to work on some women. Is anyone surprised?

TrollfaceDeux · Sep 10, 2014

don't be surprised if you get friendzoned with weird ass shit.

Draegan_sl · Sep 10, 2014

God bless Ant for getting a ton of pussy. I congratulate him for it. My only issue with him is that he's retarded by labeling all women as some sort of collective group of whores. I have no desire to change his mind, see the light, or care about defending mythical women. But I do have a desire to call him a dumb fuck on a message board though.

Gavinmad · Sep 10, 2014

Why can't you always be this version of Draegan?

Dumar_sl · Sep 10, 2014

Lots of movement in this thread, mostly name-calling and ignoring of the evidence presented, especially the academic scholarship. As the comments towards me are too numerous to address individually, I'll make a longer post that addresses most of the the points (or lack thereof) brought up on my behalf; the white knighting and the religiosity (not all women are like that!?) have been used as a defense to my objectivity.

PS and note: The following post may offend some people, especially those married who earlier felt theinstinct(there's that word again!) to defend your wife's honor or whatever bs you felt the urge to come at me bro about previously, so I'm graciously forewarning you should you not want to feel that urge again.

Stay tuned ...

Jim Russel · Sep 10, 2014

Dumar_sl said:
religiosity (not all women are like that!?)

Believing in nuance and complexity is the opposite of religiosity. You're the one adhering to dogma.

Antarius · Sep 10, 2014

Draegan_sl said:
God bless Ant for getting a ton of pussy. I congratulate him for it. My only issue with him is that he's retarded by labeling all women as some sort of collective group of whores. I have no desire to change his mind, see the light, or care about defending mythical women. But I do have a desire to call him a dumb fuck on a message board though.

All women are sluts in the right situation. They may not be sluts for me, and they may not be sluts for you, but all women are sluts. The same woman that caeden couldn't fuck after three dates got drunk once and gave a guy a blowjob in a bar bathroom. She wouldn't fuck him because she did fuck every other guy, and she finally realized it wasn't getting her the result that she wanted (fairy tale wedding, kids) But it didn't count... In her mind, because she was drunk, and he was cute, an that was at least like 2 years ago. She's so much different now.

Lol

ZyyzYzzy · Sep 10, 2014

Antarius_sl said:
All women are sluts in the right situation. They may not be sluts for me, and they may not be sluts for you, but all women are sluts. The same woman that caeden couldn't fuck after three dates got drunk once and gave a guy a blowjob in a bar bathroom. She wouldn't fuck him because she did fuck every other guy, and she finally realized it wasn't getting her the result that she wanted (fairy tale wedding, kids) But it didn't count... In her mind, because she was drunk, and he was cute, an that was at least like 2 years ago. She's so much different now.

Lol

You wonder why we mock you.

lurkingdirk · Sep 10, 2014

Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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