Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Dumar_sl

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What isthe coreof an interpersonal relationship? That is, what is the essential element, the glue, that keeps two people together? Would you be with your wife or husband if you could never have sex with them? The answer to that question is no, you wouldn't. You would find someone with whom you could (orwant...) to have sex with. Almost all relationship issues boil down, at the bottom, as sexual or attraction issues. Every divorce, every breakup, every cheating instance at its most basest form are lack of attraction issues.I love you but I'm not in love with youis the famous line heard far & wide, all across the land. This essential element then, this glue, of interpersonal relationships is sex, for both men and women. Spreadsheet guy recently proved it, Eat Pray Love proves it, every time someone cheats, that's why. Every time someone actuallyenters intoa relationship, sex is why. Yes, there may be other reasons that support the relationship; maybe both of you like the color blue or whatever, but those are not essential elements - i.e., they don't have to be there for the relationship to form. The sex does. It's essential for a marriage, LTR just as it is for a hookup. Why? Because we're animals, and our limbic impulses, our instinctual urges, must be fulfilled per nature's behest. Not because god said so. Not because we're 'in love' or other religious ways to describe it. Because nature is as it is.

So then, we must focus our lens on attraction and its generators, because that's what leads to and maintains a healthy sexual relationship, and by only the way of real, carnal attraction can true sexual satisfaction be fulfilled. Not through negotiation of desire, not throughrationalityorreasoned thoughtcan this impulse be fulfilled. It's limbic, propagated through many thousands of years in an evolutionary process that created you, here today. Your rational thoughts, although they help you drive cars and bake pies,do notdictate to this impulse what is attractive and what isn't.It just is, as nature just is. And regardless of what feminism spews at us,men and women arefundamentally different, but complement each other. And as such, what they find attractive will be different (but complement).

What iscarnally attractiveto women but not men?Dominance,forced compliance, andasshole behaviorwhen they're most fertile. When they're not, things likeagreeableness, kindness, and faithfulness; conveniently, this is the same traits they look for in a long-term mate when they're older (and again, less fertile). This is women's sexual pluralism, defined by RP: an innate, unconscious sexual strategy driven by biology and proven by science.

How do women fulfill this pluralism? How do they find the James Bond asshole who will play American Dad to their children? The answer is they won't; that man is like a male unicorn because those traits are almost mutually exclusive. The truth is, men are a small mix of both, but you cannot truly be a James Bond while being an American Dad, and vice versa; the personalities can't exist together because what separates them makes them each a respective personality. So then, we arrive: the ideal situation for a woman is short-term mating with Mr. Bond and long-term provisioning with Mr. Dad. That's the way a woman can get both the best genes and the best provisioning. Or the RP tl;dralpha fux, beta bux.

This is the reasoning, the premises and the conclusion behind one of the cornerstones of RP thought, based wholly in science, not in idealism as relationships are described by mass society and people here.

For married men, this is hard to swallow. You were likely not your wife's first choice; you likely were not her best sex; and you likely would not have been chosen had one of the alpha cads, the tatted meathead, the jerkboy, the rocker, etc she blew in the bathroom at 22 continued to dominate her and she plopped out a kid. Or maybe you're taking care of that cad's kid now.

It's cuckoldry. And as men, as RP-aware men, we reject this arrangement: a LTR or marriage with a woman who maximizes this isused goodsbecause when the woman was and is most fertile, when she was the most attractive to us as men in her youth,she slept with countless menwith the traits mentioned above, the kind who justgave her Skittles. So as the theory goes, the best of her femininity, her sexuality was given to someone else for nothing. And as we noted above that men and women are fundamentally different, theresearchshows that more sexual partners affect women more than men or aka again, women becomeused goods.

I know this sounds very depressing - it should be for a time, butits simply nature being nature, no right or wrong, onlyjust is. Once you reach that level of epiphany, there's no emotion attached to the analyses, only objectivity.

Welcome to reality, gentlemen.

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(If you want me to go down the rabbit hole further, I certainly can, but this is long enough to begin.)
 

ZyyzYzzy

RIP USA
<Banned>
25,295
48,789
And off we go!

What isthe coreof an interpersonal relationship? That is, what is the essential element, the glue, that keeps two people together? Would you be with your wife or husband if you could never have sex with them? The answer to that question is no, you wouldn't. You would find someone with whom you could (orwant...) to have sex with. Almost all relationship issues boil down, at the bottom, as sexual or attraction issues. Every divorce, every breakup, every cheating instance at its most basest form are lack of attraction issues.I love you but I'm not in love with youis the famous line heard far & wide, all across the land. This essential element then, this glue, of interpersonal relationships is sex, for both men and women. Spreadsheet guy recently proved it, Eat Pray Love proves it, every time someone cheats, that's why. Every time someone actuallyenters intoa relationship, sex is why. Yes, there may be other reasons that support the relationship; maybe both of you like the color blue or whatever, but those are not essential elements - i.e., they don't have to be there for the relationship to form. The sex does. It's essential for a marriage, LTR just as it is for a hookup. Why? Because we're animals, and our limbic impulses, our instinctual urges, must be fulfilled per nature's behest. Not because god said so. Not because we're 'in love' or other religious ways to describe it. Because nature is as it is.

So then, we must focus our lens on attraction and its generators, because that's what leads to and maintains a healthy sexual relationship, and by only the way of real, carnal attraction can true sexual satisfaction be fulfilled. Not through negotiation of desire, not throughrationalityorreasoned thoughtcan this impulse be fulfilled. It's limbic, propagated through many thousands of years in an evolutionary process that created you, here today. Your rational thoughts, although they help you drive cars and bake pies,do notdictate to this impulse what is attractive and what isn't.It just is, as nature just is. And regardless of what feminism spews at us,men and women arefundamentally different, but complement each other. And as such, what they find attractive will be different (but complement).

What iscarnally attractiveto women but not men?Dominance,forced compliance, andasshole behaviorwhen they're most fertile. When they're not, things likeagreeableness, kindness, and faithfulness; conveniently, this is the same traits they look for in a long-term mate when they're older (and again, less fertile). This is women's sexual pluralism, defined by RP: an innate, unconscious sexual strategy driven by biology and proven by science.

How do women fulfill this pluralism? How do they find the James Bond asshole who will play American Dad to their children? The answer is they won't; that man is like a male unicorn because those traits are almost mutually exclusive. The truth is, men are a small mix of both, but you cannot truly be a James Bond while being an American Dad, and vice versa; the personalities can't exist together because what separates them makes them each a respective personality. So then, we arrive: the ideal situation for a woman is short-term mating with Mr. Bond and long-term provisioning with Mr. Dad. That's the way a woman can get both the best genes and the best provisioning. Or the RP tl;dralpha fux, beta bux.

This is the reasoning, the premises and the conclusion behind one of the cornerstones of RP thought, based wholly in science, not in idealism as relationships are described by mass society and people here.

For married men, this is hard to swallow. You were likely not your wife's first choice; you likely were not her best sex; and you likely would not have been chosen had one of the alpha cads, the tatted meathead, the jerkboy, the rocker, etc she blew in the bathroom at 22 continued to dominate her and she plopped out a kid. Or maybe you're taking care of that cad's kid now.

It's cuckoldry. And as men, as RP-aware men, we reject this arrangement: a LTR or marriage with a woman who maximizes this isused goodsbecause when the woman was and is most fertile, when she was the most attractive to us as men in her youth,she slept with countless menwith the traits mentioned above, the kind who justgave her Skittles. So as the theory goes, the best of her femininity, her sexuality was given to someone else for nothing. And as we noted above that men and women are fundamentally different, theresearchshows that more sexual partners affect women more than men or aka again, women becomeused goods.

I know this sounds very depressing - it should be for a time, butits simply nature being nature, no right or wrong, onlyjust is. Once you reach that level of epiphany, there's no emotion attached to the analyses, only objectivity.

Welcome to reality, gentlemen.

(If you want me to go down the rabbit hole further, I certainly can, but this is long enough to begin.)
Essentially you value sex above all else, so everyone else must.

Edit - also your whole "instincts" and "endocrinology" solely drive attractiveness fails when you examine multiple societies and find that traits that women find most attractive vary
 

Lejina

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Only because he was such a beta he couldn't even get laid with it.
The point still stand. The guy was rabidly against the redpill stuff. He had his own made up ideas of what should work with women and he was frustrated as fuck it didn't work. The redpill stuff was so opposite to his beliefs he rejected it out of hand.

There's plenty enough stuff to hate about the whole RP doctrine. No need to blame the RP for this guy when he actually has nothing to do with it.

Also, credit where credit is due, the RP stuff does work if what you want is to get laid. You can question the morality of it, but the stuff will get your dick wet. The issue is you have guys coming out of 20 years of sex starvation finally finding something that works and pretty much worshiping it as THE way to get some poon and rejecting everything else as misguided bs.
 

ZyyzYzzy

RIP USA
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The point still stand. The guy was rabidly against the redpill stuff. He had his own made up ideas of what should work with women and he was frustrated as fuck it didn't work. The redpill stuff was so opposite to his beliefs he rejected it out of hand.

There's plenty enough stuff to hate about the whole RP doctrine. No need to blame the RP for this guy when he actually has nothing to do with it.

Also, credit where credit is due, the RP stuff does work if what you want is to get laid. You can question the morality of it, but the stuff will get your dick wet. The issue is you have guys coming out of 20 years of sex starvation finally finding something that works and pretty much worshiping it as THE way to get some poon and rejecting everything else as misguided bs.
Did anyone blame Rp for his actions? I just asked if he was.
 

Jive Turkey

Karen
6,720
9,081
And off we go!

What isthe coreof an interpersonal relationship? That is, what is the essential element, the glue, that keeps two people together? Would you be with your wife or husband if you could never have sex with them? The answer to that question is no, you wouldn't. You would find someone with whom you could (orwant...) to have sex with. Almost all relationship issues boil down, at the bottom, as sexual or attraction issues. Every divorce, every breakup, every cheating instance at its most basest form are lack of attraction issues.I love you but I'm not in love with youis the famous line heard far & wide, all across the land. This essential element then, this glue, of interpersonal relationships is sex, for both men and women. Spreadsheet guy recently proved it, Eat Pray Love proves it, every time someone cheats, that's why. Every time someone actuallyenters intoa relationship, sex is why. Yes, there may be other reasons that support the relationship; maybe both of you like the color blue or whatever, but those are not essential elements - i.e., they don't have to be there for the relationship to form. The sex does. It's essential for a marriage, LTR just as it is for a hookup. Why? Because we're animals, and our limbic impulses, our instinctual urges, must be fulfilled per nature's behest. Not because god said so. Not because we're 'in love' or other religious ways to describe it. Because nature is as it is.

So then, we must focus our lens on attraction and its generators, because that's what leads to and maintains a healthy sexual relationship, and by only the way of real, carnal attraction can true sexual satisfaction be fulfilled. Not through negotiation of desire, not throughrationalityorreasoned thoughtcan this impulse be fulfilled. It's limbic, propagated through many thousands of years in an evolutionary process that created you, here today. Your rational thoughts, although they help you drive cars and bake pies,do notdictate to this impulse what is attractive and what isn't.It just is, as nature just is. And regardless of what feminism spews at us,men and women arefundamentally different, but complement each other. And as such, what they find attractive will be different (but complement).

What iscarnally attractiveto women but not men?Dominance,forced compliance, andasshole behaviorwhen they're most fertile. When they're not, things likeagreeableness, kindness, and faithfulness; conveniently, this is the same traits they look for in a long-term mate when they're older (and again, less fertile). This is women's sexual pluralism, defined by RP: an innate, unconscious sexual strategy driven by biology and proven by science.

How do women fulfill this pluralism? How do they find the James Bond asshole who will play American Dad to their children? The answer is they won't; that man is like a male unicorn because those traits are almost mutually exclusive. The truth is, men are a small mix of both, but you cannot truly be a James Bond while being an American Dad, and vice versa; the personalities can't exist together because what separates them makes them each a respective personality. So then, we arrive: the ideal situation for a woman is short-term mating with Mr. Bond and long-term provisioning with Mr. Dad. That's the way a woman can get both the best genes and the best provisioning. Or the RP tl;dralpha fux, beta bux.

This is the reasoning, the premises and the conclusion behind one of the cornerstones of RP thought, based wholly in science, not in idealism as relationships are described by mass society and people here.

For married men, this is hard to swallow. You were likely not your wife's first choice; you likely were not her best sex; and you likely would not have been chosen had one of the alpha cads, the tatted meathead, the jerkboy, the rocker, etc she blew in the bathroom at 22 continued to dominate her and she plopped out a kid. Or maybe you're taking care of that cad's kid now.

It's cuckoldry. And as men, as RP-aware men, we reject this arrangement: a LTR or marriage with a woman who maximizes this isused goodsbecause when the woman was and is most fertile, when she was the most attractive to us as men in her youth,she slept with countless menwith the traits mentioned above, the kind who justgave her Skittles. So as the theory goes, the best of her femininity, her sexuality was given to someone else for nothing. And as we noted above that men and women are fundamentally different, theresearchshows that more sexual partners affect women more than men or aka again, women becomeused goods.

I know this sounds very depressing - it should be for a time, butits simply nature being nature, no right or wrong, onlyjust is. Once you reach that level of epiphany, there's no emotion attached to the analyses, only objectivity.

Welcome to reality, gentlemen.

(If you want me to go down the rabbit hole further, I certainly can, but this is long enough to begin.)
Even if all this were true (It's not. You learned a little bit and have extrapolated it to a hilarious degree.. but for argument's sake, let's pretend we all agree with your fantasy), you arenot an alpha male. You pick up trash. Alphas don't pick up trash. It's funny that you've convinced yourself otherwise. So do us all a favour and post your picture. I'd really love to see what you think of as an alpha male. And before you spout off shit about it not being a physical thing, it most certainly is. Your genes are reflected in your appearance.Appearancehas much more to do with sexual attraction than your silly games. So please, big alpha male, show us what you look like. Welcome us to reality with your manly visage
 

Lejina

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Did anyone blame Rp for his actions? I just asked if he was.
Dont play coy. Plenty of blogs and feminist groups blamed the RP stuff for his actions. Fact is, the guy hated the stuff and watching jocks picking up the hot babes would upset and confuse him greatly.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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That psychopath couldn't get laid with a Porsche and a father that directed part of the Hunger Games. Imagine for a second how repellant he had to be as a human being for that to be the case.
 

Lejina

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They indeed aren't jocks but that is what they are basically trying to emulate.

The stereotypical jock is what they see as a natural alpha. They broke down the character into a number of behaviors and attitudes and they are doing their best to emulate them. Eventually thru enough years of practice, they hope to actually alter their personality and become the aloof jock who gets all the babes thru sheer manliness.
 

ZyyzYzzy

RIP USA
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Dont play coy. Plenty of blogs and feminist groups blamed the RP stuff for his actions. Fact is, the guy hated the stuff and watching jocks picking up the hot babes would upset and confuse him greatly.
Not playing coy. I never even heard of redpill bs before this thread.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
28,957
79,440
Rapid fire posting isn't going to move this along any faster.

The souffle will either rise or it won't. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
 

Antarius

Lord Nagafen Raider
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They indeed aren't jocks but that is what they are basically trying to emulate.

The stereotypical jock is what they see as a natural alpha. They broke down the character into a number of behaviors and attitudes and they are doing their best to emulate them. Eventually thru enough years of practice, they hope to actually alter their personality and become the aloof jock who gets all the babes thru sheer manliness.
Well, to be fair, for most guys it doesn't take years of practice, some pick it up in a few weeks. PUA training has come a long way since the days of the mystery method and "the game".

It really is like a lightbulb for some people, flip a switch and things go from constant failure to numerous successes seemingly overnight. Another reason why the red pill analogy is so perfect. I have posted my picture, I'm just an average guy, there are 6'2", athletic, great looking guys that aren't happy with their relationships or lives, those people benefit from the red pill just as much as someone like myself does.

Listen, it's no secret that most guys posting about red pill on message boards are a little nerdy compared to what you call "natural alpha jocks", but we aren't jealous of them, we used to be (I actually don't like to speak in absolutes, but it's probably mostly true) in high school, sure, because we were young and didn't recognize that social intelligence is just as difficult of a learned skill as any other, fuck I mean a lot of people were mentioning dunning Kruger effect earlier in this thread, and that's a perfect example.. Young nerds don't realize how difficult it is to learn social skills and that it takes many hours away from the lives of most youths, meanwhile people that have spent thousands of hours practicing it think it should must just come naturally to some people because they still aren't "masters" of it despite trying their entire lives to "get it".

But there are plenty of "natural alpha jocks" that find the red pill and maybe figure out why their marriage has een failing despite him doing things he naturally isn't good at, like trying to learn to be a better provider and caretaker of his children, not understanding why his wife is losing interest in sex more and more.

So we took our desire for learning, and applied it to social situations, that's not defying your genetics, it's making them work for you, guess what, it's a viable, successful "evolutionary strategy" because it's getting smart guys to have sex with women.
 

Antarius

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I did. Because he was totally red pill.
I've posted about this before, but I actually read some of his manifesto and you seem ignorant, he didn't discover PUA until after he had ALREADY made plans to begin slaughtering people (purchasing guns). And he rejected it without trying, because he thought pick-up artists didn't fit in with his vision of how the world should work (blue pill ie: the better a provider you are, the more sex you should get). He was very anti red pill, but it was only a couple months before his rampage that he ever even researched ways to improve himself. (Ex bodybuilding.com) and those guys made fun of him, because of his appearance, most guys that post in the red pill believe that it's better to motivate others to succeed.