Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Antarius

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Trollface_sl said:
Anyone can fuck 5/10 or below.
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You're right, this stuff only works on 5/10 women, attractive women don't like aggressive guys at all.
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Antarius

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Draegan_sl said:
At least you said, in all seriousness, women are sluts for sleeping around but for men it's just ok. Own the double standard imo. I guess you'll respond or have responded with "the nature to spread the seed" or some silliness.
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Most women want a guy more experienced than they are. They want a man who is comfortable in what he likes, and is able to lead her. Also the belief that if other women are sleeping with him, he must be doing something right, I guess I can take a risk with him.

Most men want a woman who hasn't slept around a lot. Their line of reasoning is, "I want to be the center of her world, I don't want to take a risk with her giving me a disease or cheating on me"

Men select traits that they like. Women select traits they like. It isn't a "double standard" it's a "different standard". This is the complicated theory of the SMV boiled down to it's most basic form.
 
Archeron

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The data provided suffers from relevance fallacy for me. I am interested in a long term lasting relationship with a woman to raise a family and enjoy one another's company. Any logical framework, based upon rigorous scientific data or not, that causes me to fail to treat women with respect, courtesy, and an healthy appreciation for the complexity of a long term relationship is flawed a priori.

This is my problem with the redpillapproach. Sure, it will help you get laid, but it seems like it is going to fuck your head for long term relationships based upon mutual trust and respect. By all means, go out and get laid if that is the stage of life that you are at, but try to avoid thinking that this means that all women are lesser beings that should be treated akin to cattle.
 
Ridas

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Isnt it kinda the same for some men? The "fuck the whore and marry the virgin" part? You have a lot of fun with women, who are looking for sexual experiences, but once you want to settle down, you dont look for "used goods"!? All this Rp-stuff sounds like an insane double standard.

Thats my beef with the RP. The hypocrisy.
 
Jive Turkey

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Antarius, growing up was your mother a whore in front of you or did she at least try to hide it? Just trying to put together what it takes to create such a piece of shit human being
 
Caeden

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I don't doubt the truth of what Dumar and Co are spouting. I just think it's way too generalized a view when considering even human evolution from both a social and endocrine perspective. It does not allow for social pressures or phenotypical variation. Not one of their supposed studies have addressed the peer reviewed studies on the hormone oxytocin and how it interacts.

And it feels like a lot of it is science viewed through a combination of anger and inferiority complex. Sure, that one girl I dated may have blown some dude in a bar, but I know for as close a fact as I can get without reading her mind that the 30 year old virgin who PURSUES ME TO THIS DAY and I friendzoned is what she says she is. Fuck, the teary eyed conversation for that being a reason I didn't continue down a romantic relationship with her was just one of many bits of proof. Maybe she's a unicorn.

I readily admitted it was 3 girls total I had those experiences with out of 30 odd girls I dated in the past three years. Seems a reasonable distribution to me. I mean the pharm tech was on and on about marriage too.

They act as if men are the only ones capable of reasoning. One of my best friends for years has a single digit number of partners. Women crawl all over him and he punts them. In all aspects of his life he's the very definition of alpha. Yet he's one of those devout Christians. That is what he says holds him at bay. I've seen this guy practically have to beat pussy off with a stick when we go out. Yet I'm sure you guys would say he's beta when he's probably more akin to an alpha wolf if he ever found a girl that met his standards. (Probably too late and he knows that)

I also don't get how you guys toss out the whole sidebar of the RP reddit that focuses on the types of people and even describes alpha and beta for those that pair bond. I've seen multiple references to that sidebar being the real knowledge with the actual threads being a bunch of "fuck dem sluts" whining.
 
Caeden

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My mom was a fucking worthless drug abusing whore. Doesn't always make you a bad person, but I made the decision to move out on my own. Sucks having to grow the fuck up at 15 or you'll end up trash.
 
skribble

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The vast majority of people (men and women) screw around when they're younger, then settle down when they want to raise a family or meet someone they can stand for longer than a few weeks. Some people settle down earlier with the first partner they meet and only ever sleep with one person, for others it takes longer. Everyone is different. RP/PUA is pseudoscience at its worst. It takes a few tenuous studies, things which sound like they should make sense (this sort of thing is strong in broscience too, like the "stoke the metablolic fire by eating six times a day horseshit"), draws a lot of conclusions and presents the results to desperate guys who just lap it up and recite the same old bullshit over and over again. It's becoming cult like.

Some of the concepts have vague roots in reality, but wouldn't most people realise that confidence/standing out a bit/actually making moves and playing the numbers game is going to net results? That wall of text you posted is fucking terrible Dumar. It could be written quite easily to cast men in just as awful a light. What is carnally attractive to an 18-22 year old man? Well basically anything he can insert his dick into if you're dealing in stereotypes which your article does. At younger ages most (and again its not all) men and women are both just banging whatever they find attractive happy to be even having sex, and shock/horror this actually differs from woman to woman! Can you believe it? I got many BJs at age 22 outside/in a bathroom/etc, and I was most definitely not an "alpha bro".... young people have sex and doing so doesn't make anyone washed up when they're older. As for the whole "best sex" thing, again that article is just playing into people's fears and insecurities. There are a lot of variables that make sex great, and I'd gladly argue that being with someone over time, learning their fantasies and being completely relaxed in their company make for a far more fulfulling sex life than just banging some chick after a house party at college.
 
Eidal

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Draegan_sl said:
Did Dumar in all his ramblings assume all women sleep with countless men before settling down?
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It's pretty clear that him and Ant base a huge amount of their self-worth on how many people they're fucking -- it's probably impossible for them to grasp that other people (both men AND women) could have a different outlook on this. I stopped trying to "level up" on nailing women in my early 20s -- it became apparent that I wasn't even doing it for fun or the joy of sex... I was doing it to impress men which in retrospect is cringe-worthy.

I've met a few men that I believe are completely genuine when they say that casual sex feels "diminishing" for them, and it's such a palpable feeling for them that they avoid it at all costs. I think that this feeling is more common in women, likely due to societal pressure... but in my experience its not too uncommon to meet a guy who just doesn't want to fuck everything that walks and is equally perplexed with his buddies that would rarely (if ever) turn down a one-night stand.

Edit: Given all the potential negative consequences of casual sex, it makes me respect a man even more when I see them refrain from casual sex. Demonstrable proof of mind stronger than penis.
 
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Antarius

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Eidal_sl said:
It's pretty clear that him and Ant base a huge amount of their self-worth on how many people they're fucking -- it's probably impossible for them to grasp that other people (both men AND women) could have a different outlook on this. I stopped trying to "level up" on nailing women in my early 20s -- it became apparent that I wasn't even doing it for fun or the joy of sex... I was doing it to impress men which in retrospect is cringe-worthy.

I've met a few men that I believe are completely genuine when they say that casual sex feels "diminishing" for them, and it's such a palpable feeling for them that they avoid it at all costs. I think that this feeling is more common in women, likely due to societal pressure... but in my experience its not too uncommon to meet a guy who just doesn't want to fuck everything that walks and is equally perplexed with his buddies that would rarely (if ever) turn down a one-night stand.

Edit: Given all the potential negative consequences of casual sex, it makes me respect a man even more when I see them refrain from casual sex. Demonstrable proof of mind stronger than penis.
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What?

Congrats? I enjoy having sex, I enjoy meeting new women. I'm sorry that you don't.

Most people that meet me will never know my partner count, most of the women I bang will never meet any of my friends or co-workers. I don't know why you guys keep using video game terms to describe your relationships, if I hear one more anti-redpill person call their long-term relationship an "end game" or refer to having sex with someone new as "leveling up" I think I'm going to throw up. You guys love to objectify women despite claiming otherwise.
 
khalid

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Antarius_sl said:
, if I hear one more anti-redpill person call their long-term relationship an "end game" or refer to having sex with someone new as "leveling up" I think I'm going to throw up.
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What? You constantly point out how many women you sleep with as a badge of honor. You are literally achievement whoring.
 
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Antarius

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Ridas_sl said:
Isnt it kinda the same for some men? The "fuck the whore and marry the virgin" part? You have a lot of fun with women, who are looking for sexual experiences, but once you want to settle down, you dont look for "used goods"!? All this Rp-stuff sounds like an insane double standard.

Thats my beef with the RP. The hypocrisy.
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Again, it's not hypocrisy. Women find experienced men more attractive. Men find inexperienced women more attractive.

If you behave in such a way that will make you more attractive to the opposite sex, that is a good thing. If you behave in a way that the opposite sex finds repulsive, don't be surprised when the opposite sex is not interested in having a relationship with you. That is not hypocrisy.
 
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