Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Eidal

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Well, I see a cycle repeated here.

1) Antarius finds a 22 year old women willing to have sex with a mid-30s "top 10 percentile of wage earner" fat man.
2) Correctly identifies his cash as being crucial to his game, and hates the woman for being so shallow.
3) Incorrectly assumes that all women are specifically attracted to casual displays of cash.

So yea, if you're fat and poor you're fucked. But honestly, fat and poor men aren't really demonstrating that they're good at anything other than lowering Olive Garden's profit margins. Fat and "top 10 percent wage earner" men are still locking themselves out of a substantial portion of the dating market: the women that don't want to be taken care of, the women that are strong and healthy and expect theirpartnerto be the same.

Is it any wonder that the opposite of the fat/broke man (Cad!) disagrees with you?
 
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Himeo_sl said:
I have some loose skin. I'm still in my 20's so that shit might go away eventually. Or it might never. Time will tell.
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I've finally started to notice loose skin around my gut as I've dropped below 190, It's not bad at all though considering I've lost almost 60 lbs from my max, one of the top posts on reddit's fitness forum is a guy who get his loose skin removed when he went from 260 to 160 and he looks ripped as fucked, my skin doesn't look as bad as his did though at the same point. It helps that my weight loss has been so slow over the past 3 years and his was over a 1 year period. My arms are actually bigger than when I started and my chest and neck measurement hasn't changed at all.
 
lurkingdirk

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I would marry an uggo if she was asuccessfulstand-up comic.
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Does this count?

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Seananigans

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Eidal_sl said:
Himeo/Trollface/Dumar/Antarius/Lighting Lord Rule/Other TRPers here: are ANY of you strong or fast? Dumar seems to be in the lead re: physical fitness because he is allegedly "not fat". Are any of you actually physically inspiring? Or do you just call women shallow sluts for talking to the man with muscles, because muscles are so easy to have, that's why every man here has a physique like Jackie Treehorn, right?
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Well, I wouldn't consider myself a TRPer, but I do realize it to be almost completely truthful in what it's trying to put forth. And that's, as Dumar says, simply trying to explain reality as it actually is, as opposed to being locked into idealistic nonsense. Dumar/Antarius are a tad weird about it, but also, you guys are mostly a bunch of dickbags for giving them this much shit. Your arguments are largely blowing what they say out of proportion, but maybe that's because you just would rather rag on people than acknowledge what they have to say, because it's apparently too challenging to discern what they'retryingto say, while unfortunately having a poor way of describing it (again, Dumar and Antarius, largely).

So here are your data points:

-I'm 33, and I've been a huge nerd my whole life, and have been around on these forums (their various iterations) since noows.
-Was completely inactive physically until ~28, started working out from scratch. Was 6'1" 185lbs skinny fat, dropped fat weight to 155, built muscle back up to a lean 182 currently.
-Am now quite athletic and able: above average strength for my size/weight, proficiency in various stupid human tricks/feats (my fitness hobby/interest) such as human flag, various tumbling, and have been teaching myself to do an iron cross on the rings

So yes, I can safely say that relative to this forum that I've been a member of for 13-14 years, I'm physically inspiring.


The other non-physical points:

-I'm a natural beta, as modern society tends to create, especially without a father figure. Had to teach myself to balance it with Alpha traits.
-After a serious break-up of my only real relationship back in 2010, I started delving into knowledge of what I did wrong, etc, which led me to discover "the reality." This wasn't via TRP or anything, it was books such as "The Way of the Superior Man," and actually a blog called "Married Man Sex Life," that spawned a book or two since. Also a few other books for smaller side concepts. The concepts I learned (mostly through MMSL, that guy knows his shit)closely mirror what TRP tries to teach.
-I've dated plenty of women, and have no shortage of success in that department, but the majority of my success came after learning these concepts. While I don't feel the need to divulge "my number" on the interwebs here to flex for you guys, suffice to say it's actually higher than I'd like, and I've calmed down a bit after quite a surge following newfound knowledge.


So basically I'm saying that yes, I'm the type of person that you don't think exists. I acknowledge what these guys are trying to explain as almost completely truthful and real, while being a completely normal person who's successful withrealwomen.
 
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Eidal_sl said:
I read a few entries that Dumar linked from that dood he worships. He specifically acknowledges that certain women are very unlikely to be interested in the TRPer approach and his advice is to identify that and move the fuck on ASAP. Good general advice for flirting and dating in general, but doesn't this blatantly indicate that women are people and people like different things?

This is from that Roissy redpillguy that Dumar likes.

Your goal is to identify which 18-21 year olds are amenable to being seducedby you. Since a majority will balk at the idea, you should learn to quickly identify and NEXT! them.



Shocking, isn't it. How do you TRPers reconcile that with the "all women are the same" // "all women are sluts" // "trp works on every woman, every time, every place"
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You're not getting it.All women are whoresdoes NOT mean that every woman will sleep with any or every man. It doesn't mean that if I use Redpill or PUA that I can nail any girl I choose. You and others get confused by that statement.

It means thateverywoman will sleep with, give it up forsomeman very easily. And all of her hamster rationalizations, the bitch shield, the shit tests, the 'looking for a nice guy' narrative, etc, won't mean anything when a certain guy says, looks, or does a certain combination of things. This is what the phrase means. Maybe I spend a few dates to 'really get to know someone as a person' spew of bs; maybe I wine & dine her. Maybe we share the same hobbies. None of that matters. For some particular combination of a guy's traits and circumstance, she'll fuck without any of that at all.

Every woman is this way. Every woman can be seduced. What is different is man and circumstance.

There's not two buckets of women: one that will whore it up, and another that do not. They all have the potential to do so. The only difference is the guy and circumstance, again. Now, it just so happens that almost every single woman also 'prefers' (let's link the researchyet again) the same type of guy: masculine, social dominance, whether that dominance manifests as a wall street banker or a military guy is largely a consideration of experience and socioeconomic class, but it's still the same thing, just manifest differently.

I hope that clears up the meaning; people seem confused by itstill.
 
Khane

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What the fuck is this loose skin debate? How does that even fucking happen? I went from 280 to 172 and I have no loose skin at all.
 
khalid

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Dumar_sl said:
It means thateverywoman will sleep with, give it up forsomeman very easily.
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That statement is as dumb and meaningless and as impossible to prove as the statement "all men are murderers, as long as you present them with the right circumstances" or "all men are rapists, as long as it is the right circumstance".

You are, quite literally, the mirror of the radfems that say all men are rapists.
 
Jive Turkey

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Seananigans_sl said:
Well, I wouldn't consider myself a TRPer, but I do realize it to be almost completely truthful in what it's trying to put forth. And that's, as Dumar says, simply trying to explain reality as it actually is, as opposed to being locked into idealistic nonsense. Dumar/Antarius are a tad weird about it, but also, you guys are mostly a bunch of dickbags for giving them this much shit. Your arguments are largely blowing what they say out of proportion, but maybe that's because you just would rather rag on people than acknowledge what they have to say, because it's apparently too challenging to discern what they'retryingto say, while unfortunately having a poor way of describing it (again, Dumar and Antarius, largely).

So here are your data points:

-I'm 33, and I've been a huge nerd my whole life, and have been around on these forums (their various iterations) since noows.
-Was completely inactive physically until ~28, started working out from scratch. Was 6'1" 185lbs skinny fat, dropped fat weight to 155, built muscle back up to a lean 182 currently.
-Am now quite athletic and able: above average strength for my size/weight, proficiency in various stupid human tricks/feats (my fitness hobby/interest) such as human flag, various tumbling, and have been teaching myself to do an iron cross on the rings

So yes, I can safely say that relative to this forum that I've been a member of for 13-14 years, I'm physically inspiring.


The other non-physical points:

-I'm a natural beta, as modern society tends to create, especially without a father figure. Had to teach myself to balance it with Alpha traits.
-After a serious break-up of my only real relationship back in 2010, I started delving into knowledge of what I did wrong, etc, which led me to discover "the reality." This wasn't via TRP or anything, it was books such as "The Way of the Superior Man," and actually a blog called "Married Man Sex Life," that spawned a book or two since. Also a few other books for smaller side concepts. The concepts I learned (mostly through MMSL, that guy knows his shit)closely mirror what TRP tries to teach.
-I've dated plenty of women, and have no shortage of success in that department, but the majority of my success came after learning these concepts. While I don't feel the need to divulge "my number" on the interwebs here to flex for you guys, suffice to say it's actually higher than I'd like, and I've calmed down a bit after quite a surge following newfound knowledge.


So basically I'm saying that yes, I'm the type of person that you don't think exists. I acknowledge what these guys are trying to explain as almost completely truthful and real, while being a completely normal person who's successful withrealwomen.
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And did you develop a seething hatred for women in the meantime? No? Well therein lies the difference between them and you and why you won't cop any shit from anyone
 
Khane

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You guys know what rhetoric is right? I've said it before but Dumar is the ultimate rhetoric troll. He speaks only in rhetoric and does it really poorly. At least, I hope he's a troll. Otherwise he might actually be autistic like everyone else here is claiming.

Rhetoric:

language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.
 
Seananigans

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Jive Turkey_sl said:
And did you develop a seething hatred for women in the meantime? No? Well therein lies the difference between them and you and why you won't cop any shit from anyone
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Well, claiming they all hate women is part of why I think you're all a bunch of dickbags. I fuckinghate(huehue) that kind of hyperbolic retort. Mostly, they're just somewhat bad at trying to get their points across, they don't hate women. Very few people actively hate things, much less entire groups of people. Hating is an exhausting activity, people don't do it frivolously.

But, then, it's not surprising to see you all jump to that retort, as it's quite common in our society. You see it quite often in racial discussions, sexual orientation discussions, etc. It's done because it's powerful; it carries with it quite a stigma, and often goes hand in hand with "racist," "sexist," "homophobe," type labels.

Anyhoo.
 
khalid

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Dumar_sl said:
What is rhetoric in what I just said?
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The statement that "under some particular circumstances, every woman will sleep with someone" is a meaningless statement.

Just as meaningless and dumb as "all men are rapists, given the right circumstances" or "Dumar will have sex with a man, given the right circumstances".
 
Himeo

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khalid_sl said:
That statement is as dumb and meaningless and as impossible to prove as the statement "all men are murderers, as long as you present them with the right circumstances" or "all men are rapists, as long as it is the right circumstance".

You are, quite literally, the mirror of the radfems that say all men are rapists.
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A better way to put it:



Men and women are different. One of those differences is women how men and women view honor and duty. Men value loyalty. Women do not.

Good example of this in practice was Evil Knevil. Back in his prime wives and long term girlfriends would go to a show and then force their boyfriends / husbands to wait for them while they fucked Evil's brains out. Guy was drowning in women even the ones that were "taken".
 
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khalid_sl said:
The statement that "under some particular circumstances, every woman will sleep with someone" is a meaningless statement.

Just as meaningless and dumb as "all men are rapists, given the right circumstances" or "Dumar will have sex with a man, given the right circumstances".
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No, it's not meaningless because it happens all the time. That's what PUA was designed for: to push the right buttons to make it happen consistently.
 
khalid

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Dumar_sl said:
No, it's not meaningless because it happens all the time. That's what PUA was designed for: to push the right buttons to make it happen consistently.
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Yes, it is meaningless, because if anyone presents a case where a woman didn't sleep with someone under some circumstance, you would respond with "well, another one exists!".

It is unfalsifiable as a statement because of that, and you can't even draw any conclusions from it as it doesn't say anything about particular circumstances. It is meaningless rhetoric and silly.
 
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