Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Duppin_sl

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Romantic love is a societal construct that's been around for a really long time, and came from the benefits of having a stable family unit in an agrarian society.

It's not some fucking female conspiracy that only dates back to the 1200s, and the fact that you think it IS just demonstrates how stupid you are.
 

Dumar_sl

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The desire to fuck has always existed, and that's what I and RP discuss. When you attach the word 'love' to it, it ceases to be just this limbic desire and is born into something else, and it can mean a million different things.

When you say love, are you talking about this carnal desire of another person? Then yes, it existed in your links. Are you talking about our conceptions of romance? No. It didn't exist then.

I never said it was a conspiracy. Go back and read my posts. It was a power grab in response to being treated as property. I don't think you quite realize the extent this idea of love permeated aristocratic life back then. There were 'love courts' where women in the court woulddecide on matters of love. Imagine a modern celebrity on television deciding what love is and isn't, and you have some idea of what it was like back then regarding this new idea, thisromantic love.
 

Dumar_sl

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Dumar there is area between carnal desire to fuck and chivalry and courtly love.
When we're trying to understand reality, we have to use words withprecise and concretemeanings, not feel-good, fluffy illusions that exist 'somewhere' in between an ideal and a hormonal response. Like I said, doing that gets us nowhere.
 

Antarius

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I'm not sure why you're giving a_skeleton_03 shit for marrying a virgin (I'm assuming neither he not his wife is lying) it's been well established that each sexual partner for a woman increases her chance of unhappiness in marriage and chance of initiating divorce. I'm on my phone so I can't pull up the exact data, but a virgin bride is only 10% as likely to imitate a divorce as a woman who had had 15 partners as far as I can remember from the chart. Basically, it's pretty damning of your chances of marriage if you pick up a woman in her early 30s, post wall, especially after she's ridden the cock carousel.

The reason red pill advises against being a blue pill provider to a woman looking to settle down in her 30s is because the odds of divorce among that particular demographic is ridiculous, something like 80% if a woman marries 29-33 if she has a kid prior, not to mention, the unfavorable divorce laws, dead bedroom scenarios, percent chance of cheating increases, 40% of women married post 30 will cheat on their husbands (And those are just the ones that get caught), it's just not a good idea. Some mitigating factors include higher education and whatnot,, but I don't see too many people on this board dating doctors.

By FAR, the single greatest correlative indicator of a happy marriage is how many men the woman has fucked prior to the marriage, and higher is not better. Granted you my say correlation is not causation, but why would you want to risk it. How desperate are YOU, I already know how desperate the woman is. Red pill advises against settling for a woman in that age bracket is because she is likely using you despite not being very sexually attracted to you. She is literally deluding herself into thinking she can make it work because she is unhappy that she has been unable to make an alpha commit, so she starts looking for men she is NOT sexually aroused by.

I was actually listening to loveline a few years ago and I remember dr drew specifically telling a woman to do EXACTLY Start dating men that don't arouse her as much because she had been in 3 seperate abusive relationships. I pity the poor man she tried to latch on to that didn't realize that she actually was turned on by an abusive asshole, and a tv personality told her to date him next, because he DIDNT excite her.

You all rail against me for paying for prostitutes in the past, but a woman looking for a blue pill beta provider is the worst kind of prostitute.
 

Erronius

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I might be able to enter into an argument over predisposition or perhaps something like learned cultural responses, but expanding that into a belief such as"all women are whores"is an almost unbelievable level of derp.

Protip: the reality about RP isn't that women are necessarily attracted to assholes. Women are attracted to self confidence, and you don't need to be an asshole to be self confident. The rub here is that if you're a beta with little or no self confidence, it might honestly be easier to get laid by playing the part of an asshole so as to go after the low hanging fruit that can't distinguish between "asshole" and "confident", than it would be to actually build your self confidence to the point that you can have the same results without having to act like an asshole. And make no mistake - by and large, the women you'll bag by being an asshole with this RP schtick will pale in comparison to the women that are instantly turned off and treat you like a leper.
 

Dumar_sl

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The research has shown - and I've linked - that the attraction indicators are far, far beyond just simple self-confidence.
 

Duppin_sl

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Any woman of actual value beyond just a hole for the night knows how to spot this redpill shit a mile away and how to stay away from it.
 

Duppin_sl

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It comes from the exact same place. One is theory, one is practice.

Go read about what courtly love actually is, Mr. Dim-ar.
 

Antarius

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The research has shown - and I've linked - that the attraction indicators are far, far beyond just simple self-confidence.
Yea, it's not even just redpill only these days, even the mainstream media has been picking up on it, I shat bricks when I saw Robin Meade going over things that men should do on a first date for success and included things like not paying attention to what she is saying or having a phone that rings multiple times during dinner.
 

drtyrm

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Granted you my say correlation is not causation, but why would you want to risk it.
Translation: The 'facts' I am using to support my argument may be untrue, but I'm going to go with it anyway.

This is the root cause of the entire forum coming out against the RPers. Almost everything you've posted here is irrational.
 

Himeo

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I might be able to enter into an argument over predisposition or perhaps something like learned cultural responses, but expanding that into a belief such as"all women are whores"is an almost unbelievable level of derp.

Protip: the reality about RP isn't that women are necessarily attracted to assholes. Women are attracted to self confidence, and you don't need to be an asshole to be self confident. The rub here is that if you're a beta with little or no self confidence, it might honestly be easier to get laid by playing the part of an asshole so as to go after the low hanging fruit that can't distinguish between "asshole" and "confident", than it would be to actually build your self confidence to the point that you can have the same results without having to act like an asshole. And make no mistake - by and large, the women you'll bag by being an asshole with this RP schtick will pale in comparison to the women that are instantly turned off and treat you like a leper.
What you're saying makes sense. I used to think the same way.

But then I tried being an asshole. I did all the things I've been told for years I should "never" do. The things girls used to bitch to me about their boyfriends doing.

It works. Maybe the world would be a better place if it didn't. Maybe Everquest would have been a better game if you couldn't leave no drop items in the forge and have your friend take it. Maybe no drop items aren't meant to be traded.

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
 

Erronius

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But then I tried being an asshole. I did all the things I've been told for years I should "never" do. The things girls used to bitch to me about their boyfriends doing.

It works. Maybe the world would be a better place if it didn't. Maybe Everquest would have been a better game if you couldn't leave no drop items in the forge and have your friend take it. Maybe no drop items aren't meant to be traded.
If you are incapable of simply being self confident on your own terms without having to take on a false persona, then I salute your desperate efforts and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
 

Duppin_sl

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The problem is, if you're putting on an act, what happens when you try to actually sustain a relationship? You can't keep up the act 24/7.

If all you're looking for is to get laid, well, more power to you. But getting laid isn't really that hard.
 

Jive Turkey

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Women are carnally attracted to assholes. Women have sex with assholes for nothing. After they age, they change their narrative to nice guys who will provision a lifestyle for them since they can't attract assholes any longer. All women will fulfill their hypergamous tendencies with some man in modern society, and without social restraints, all of them do. That's it. All my data supports every statement.
Antarius' whore mom married an alpha (by antarius criteria) at 35, got HIV, then he left her at 37..... Even this statement you just made is refuted by a fellow red pylon
 

Himeo

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If you are incapable of simply being self confident on your own terms without having to take on a false persona, then I salute your desperate efforts and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
Maybe that's what it is.

Or maybe, just maybe, following the "no drop" rules that most of the board is preaching didn't work out for me.

Good thing someone on here mentioned a Red Pill "exploit". Using the exploit I get my dick wet.

Someone explain why I'm not supposed to use the exploit?