Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

You want gospel? This is the Bible according to women.

http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-break-...own-for-1-year

You can see the advice that women give in such a situation... "Becky Lee" gives the 365 upvote answer
You can see the redpilladvice. "Kai Peter Chang" Gives the 3700 upvote answer

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

You should look up the meaning of "all" if you want to discuss reality with people.

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Correct:Allwomen will fulfill their hypergamous impulses withsomemen.

Incorrect:Somewomen will fulfill their hypergamous impulses withallmen.

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

No he is saying a women will always seek to marry someobe who makes more money/status than the last man.

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No, he is saying women will always seek to upgrade over their current man, while they are still in the relationship *IF* a better man shows interest.

Himeo_sl said:

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Don't smiley face me, that's a perfectly valid question. What Dumar said there was that you should only be fucking 20 year olds for sexual conquest and getting your number up (you know, like Antarius), and never look for a long term relationship with a "used up" 30 year old. That's a fucked up attitude to have. No, not every relationship or lay needs to be "true love", but taking it to that much of an extreme is sociopathic. Women are sexual objects to be switched in and out as they get used up, nothing more.

Dumar_sl said:

Appreciate women for what they are, and what they can offer.

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From what you've posted, you essentially view women as walking sperm receptacles, and not a whole lot more.

Antarius_sl said:

Basically, it's pretty damning of your chances of marriage if you pick up a woman in her early 30s, post wall, especially after she's ridden the cock carousel.

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And thank you to Antarius for confirming EXACTLY what I was saying to Himeo above. Well done, good sir.

Antarius_sl said:

Hmm, not sure if the numbers are right, more like got married for the second time around 38 and divorced around 12 years later.

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So it refutes your theories to a greater degree. Thanks, chief

The hottest chick I fucked last year was 24. She was by far the worst sex I've had in my 30's (post 10 year marriage)

The best sex seems to be from 28-34 year olds that are comfortable enough with their bodies and have gotten over some hangups. Like semen. That 24 year old freaked out when I let it fly in her mouth.

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

That is what a rational person would think. It is Dumar so we must apply twisted logic to it as in his eyes women only enter relationships to use men.

Edit - forgot to mention Dumar assumes all women actively do this, not only if a better man shows interest.

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I'm not going to speak for Dumar, but I'm comfortable saying this is exactly what I believe. Some women do it actively and openly, the rest do it but don't talk about it or coach their words to make it more "acceptable" to society.

All women are hypergamous, only within the past 10 years has open hypergamy started to become socially acceptable.

The redpillis a bitterpillto swallow because you don't even have to be significantly better before some women start to throw themselves at you. Just better at all, or even just "different".

Be both the beta provider AND the alpha asshole. Or women will seek it elsewhere to obtain both of their desires.

And yes, many of my early relationships were with women in their late 20s or early 30s seeking a better beta. Currently I'm dating around. Two of the women I'm dating have good long term relationship potential, the 27 "good girl" teacher I talked about before and a 24 year old about to finish up her masters, (and big time wow/lol player). I'm completely honest with all women that I've been with, and a giant asshole, and that just makes them want me more.

Be a man with options. It's wonderful.

Antarius_sl said:

Be both the beta provider AND the alpha asshole.

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You're, like, the perfect man so dreamy

Antarius_sl said:

I'm not going to speak for Dumar, but I'm comfortable saying this is exactly what I believe. Some women do it actively and openly, the rest do it but don't talk about it or coach their words to make it more "acceptable" to society.

All women are hypergamous, only within the past 10 years has open hypergamy started to become socially acceptable.

The redpillis a bitterpillto swallow because you don't even have to be significantly better before some women start to throw themselves at you. Just better at all, or even just "different".

Be both the beta provider AND the alpha asshole. Or women will seek it elsewhere to obtain both of their desires.

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So you are saying that if a more attractive person comes along, thatALLwoman will drop there whole life and responsibilities (kids, work, cats) to pursue that more attractive individual? Some women will do this; I would be surprised it is not the same as the percentage as men that do it.

You are also implying that there are no lazy fucks out there, that no women are going to brush off a more attractive male because it would be too much work?

You are also implying thatALLwomen can not evaluate the cost of their actions on their life and the emotional stress on their children, then decide the benefits are not worth it?

This notion I keep reading that women will sleep with alpha (X) as long as he meets conditions (Y) is like saying "anything is possible, so this must be true." It is as if reading a survey study on mass murderers that looks for common traits, then sayingALLpeople that have those traits are murderers. It reminds me of pseudo-scientific theories that read a little quantum physics, then tries to apply it to something else, incorrectly.

Cad_sl said:

This whole line of thinking shows remarkable stupidity to assume that younger/hotter chicks are better in bed anyway, if good sex is your only goal. If good conversation/companionship is your goal you can't really date chicks under about 30 anyway, as people don't really start to mature until that age.

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Good sex isn't their goal -- their goal is having a shit ton of casual sex with trashy women so that they can brag about it to other men who also value having casual sex with trashy women. They're confused why most respectable men find their viewpoint and lifestyle so disgusting, so they've invented this whole Matrix-esque "Some men would rather remain ignorant" worldview instead of sitting down and applying some serious introspective analysis.

When I was younger, I used casual sex for an ego-boost and validation. I wasn't sleeping with ugly women, but they were trashy nontheless. I wasn't adverse to a LTR, I was just a pretty big douchebag with some serious trust issues. I had very little respect for myself, and even less for a woman who wanted to fuck me. I mean -- anyone willing to fuck me was obviously a piece of work! My "game theory" approach was that if I never gave a shit about a woman then I would never be hurt by a woman. I knew I was sleeping with trashy women, so I lost respect for them and myself through the process. This dynamic didn't change until I started to accumulate things that I had done that made me proud; most of which happened after I enlisted. So, I very literally went to war to learn how to be a good man.

It never would have occurred to me to accuse my critics as "choosing ignorance over the truth"; thereby putting myself on the moral pedestal of Truth-Seeker, noble in my pursuit of trashy sex with trashy women. But we see this dynamic repeated in lots of places -- like the people who think Everquest was the best game ever and every single competing product is just for casual scrub gamers who aren't good enough to play a real game. Choose the red-pill, play EQ, choose the blue-pill, enjoy any other game... Oh, this sounds familiar.

So just to make sure I'm caught up on the terminology:

"Hypergamous" is a fancy word for "whore", right?

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I am saying that all women will consider it. I am saying that social ostracism weighs into their decision making. Slut shaming is done primarily by women, and that's who women worry about offending when they weigh their options, not the feelings of the man they are considering leaving, at all, that is literally not EVER a factor for a woman. EVER. If they have a good provider for a husband and she has children she will only have an affair if she is certain that it will never be found out, and if it is found out he would leave her. But she'll do it and not feel guilty about it.

This is not a small minority of women... this is MOST, greater than 50% of women will cheat on their husbands.

Start taking up alpha traits, become more of an asshole. You'll see the same thing that I've seen.

Almost all women who cheat never get caught by their partners.... but a fifth of men DO get found out | Daily Mail Online

95% of women who have an affair never get found out according to informal poling from sites like ashley madison (granted, biased).

Women Cheating About As Often As Men, Says Study - ABC News

Women who reported not being happy in a relationship and feeling that their partner didn't hold similar sexual beliefs were more likely to be unfaithful. For men, one of the biggest factors that led to cheating was sexual excitability.

For both men and women, not caring about consequences of their actions and a fear of poor sexual performance also made them more likely to cheat.

"You may not have same performance concerns with somebody you don't know very well," said Kristen Mark, lead author of the study and a doctoral student at Indiana University.

She added that 19 percent of women and 23 percent of men reported cheating, statistics that seem to reflect a closing of the cheating gender gap. Research from the 1990s found that only about 10 percent to 15 percent of women reported being unfaithful. Relationship experts, however, debate the implications of these data.

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Experts also believe the ever-expanding reach of cyberspace has led many more women to seek out relationships outside their current one.

"I think that the online world is becoming a bigger and bigger part of people's lives," said Wetzler, who is also the author of the book "Living With the Passive-Aggressive Man." "In that sense, it allows for people to act on infidelity."

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Yes, I meet most of my women online, maybe that's why I'm not surprised that I've seen more than my fair share of cheating women... and I'm just immoral enough to jump on the grenade before someone else does.

Duppin_sl said:

So just to make sure I'm caught up on the terminology:

"Hypergamous" is a fancy word for "whore", right?

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No, it's a fancy word meaning that a woman will go after both the best provider she is able to get to commit to her, as well as the sexiest man she is able to fuck.

Rarely are those two in the same person. Usually she will go after the sexiest men from about 16-29, starting at about 26 she'll start looking for a better provider.