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Agraza

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no taxation without representation. not exactly the same thing, but a similar sentiment. the people that make reddit mean something are being treated as if they don't matter. 'murica, freedom, fuck yeah.
 

iannis

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The issue goes beyond Reddit. We are concerned with what a move like this means for for-profit companies that depend on the free labor of volunteers - and whether they truly understand what makes an online community vibrant.
Just fucking lol.

They should have titled it "IAMA idealistic dumbass (*confirmed) who does not understand how few fucks reddit corporate gives. Really I don't. I wrote this because I think they give a fuck!!! AMA!"
 

Lanx

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any one read that op ed and think that a reddit Mod is a dumb fuck?

I've webmastered, mod'd, admin'd whatever websites/forums for a hobby website or 2, and many eq1/eq2 websites. But that was out of necessity, you join a guild, and you're like "HOLY SHIT, geocities website!, wtf"

but being a mod for reddit? seriously, a dumb fuck.
 

radditsu

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any one read that op ed and think that a reddit Mod is a dumb fuck?

I've webmastered, mod'd, admin'd whatever websites/forums for a hobby website or 2, and many eq1/eq2 websites. But that was out of necessity, you join a guild, and you're like "HOLY SHIT, geocities website!, wtf"

but being a mod for reddit? seriously, a dumb fuck.
Some people think playing MMOs for 15 years is also dumb as fuck. Some people think admining guild websites and forums are dumb as fuck. You are not the arbiter of other peoples good time. Ya mook. Some people like to moderate reddit, Some people like to stick their dick in ants. It's not for you to decide what people are allowed to enjoy.
 

Haast

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2 weeks notice is courtesy when you leave a job, not when you are fired.
This is true. Also, the 2 weeks is optional on the employer's part. They can escort you out as soon as you give notice.

However, Pao and the gang fucked up the firing in that they had no transition plan in place and didn't take care of the loose ends the firing created until it was a shitstorm. Unless the mods are lying.
 

Cad

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This is true. Also, the 2 weeks is optional on the employer's part. They can escort you out as soon as you give notice.
Which is a stupid thing to do because the other employees aren't blind. You think they're going to give 2 weeks notice if you escort people out like assholes when they do?
 

Phazael

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Well, to be fair, when someone mods a site for your guild or game club, its usually because A) the site is serving the interests of their hobby time and B) you need someone with the right skills to keep the site working.

What I have found over the years is that sites that are not connected to a particular other activity, where the mod crew are running them purely as part of the function of their main free time activity, tend to attract a certain type of person to the mod post. That is generally going to be the socially dysfunctional person who wants power over others to gain respect (or sometimes heightened importance for their opinions), sort of like an online version of the power tripping police officer. They exist on these online venues and assign them more personal importance than things in the real world, while a moderator for a hobby site is going to at least prioritize their hobby above forum drama. Its not always the case, in fact I think despite bitching to the contrary this board is fairly good at keeping the mods from waving their dicks around, but more often than not you get social cripples using mod status to act like petty dictators.

In a giant community with no single focus, the people running things are going to take who they can get without much vetting. This leads to a lot of butthurt aspies and blue hairs running things, because their entire existence revolves around online perception of themselves. In a place like Reddit, the higher ups are not going to fix it because if they gave a fuck in the first place, those people would have been vetted. Any mod worth a shit who does not let the position go to their head tends to just say fuck it and end up running things on smaller niche sites like this one, because modding is annoying enough without standing in the middle of a shit tossing war like the one going on at Reddit right now.
 

a_skeleton_03

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any one read that op ed and think that a reddit Mod is a dumb fuck?

I've webmastered, mod'd, admin'd whatever websites/forums for a hobby website or 2, and many eq1/eq2 websites. But that was out of necessity, you join a guild, and you're like "HOLY SHIT, geocities website!, wtf"

but being a mod for reddit? seriously, a dumb fuck.
You are forgetting that some of these mods probably started on these default subs before Reddit was a big deal. Back when it was just a casual and fun hobby.
 

BrutulTM

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Well, to be fair, when someone mods a site for your guild or game club, its usually because A) the site is serving the interests of their hobby time and B) you need someone with the right skills to keep the site working.

What I have found over the years is that sites that are not connected to a particular other activity, where the mod crew are running them purely as part of the function of their main free time activity, tend to attract a certain type of person to the mod post. That is generally going to be the socially dysfunctional person who wants power over others to gain respect (or sometimes heightened importance for their opinions), sort of like an online version of the power tripping police officer. They exist on these online venues and assign them more personal importance than things in the real world, while a moderator for a hobby site is going to at least prioritize their hobby above forum drama. Its not always the case, in fact I think despite bitching to the contrary this board is fairly good at keeping the mods from waving their dicks around, but more often than not you get social cripples using mod status to act like petty dictators.

In a giant community with no single focus, the people running things are going to take who they can get without much vetting. This leads to a lot of butthurt aspies and blue hairs running things, because their entire existence revolves around online perception of themselves. In a place like Reddit, the higher ups are not going to fix it because if they gave a fuck in the first place, those people would have been vetted. Any mod worth a shit who does not let the position go to their head tends to just say fuck it and end up running things on smaller niche sites like this one, because modding is annoying enough without standing in the middle of a shit tossing war like the one going on at Reddit right now.
You sound like you have a problem with authority. I have modded several boards and being a moderator is just a big shit sandwich to eat every day. There is not really any upside to it. It might sound fun if you have never done it but it's just a lot of work and a lot of listening to people bitch and then if you do something about it then other people bitch at you instead. Any illusions you might have about "power" will be gone in a week so I don't really buy the power trip motivation. The only reason to do it is because someone has to. It's a community service thing, or it should be, which not everyone relates to.
 

Itzena_sl

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Phazael for Screenshots mod. Let's see how he likes it.
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Also:yishan comments on We apologize
 

Agraza

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She's doing idiotic things, and I don't care if he wants to take some of the heat. He apparently did idiotic things as well. Unless he's her puppeteer then she has plenty to be responsible for. What mess? AMAs were a mess? The deleted reddits were a mess? No, I don't accept that all her choices are derived from his faults. Reddit was one thing, and now reddit is another thing, and she has a significant role in that. Trying to draw parallels to a sensationalist tv ratings machine is sad. Most of the people that disagree with what's going on have nothing to gain financially. These are not professionals hamming it up for views. They're just normal shlubs who are passionate about what's being done to the community they enjoy. You're carrying water for rich people lying to you.
 

Lithose

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Phazael for Screenshots mod. Let's see how he likes it.
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Also:yishan comments on We apologize
Mmm, that is what we call a proper board seat martyrdom. Taking shit for the new CEO is a classic tradition among former executives. They will typically get a board seat on another company the CEO has influence over in a few months (In this case it wouldn't be the CEO using the influence, I would guess it would be the VC firm if this is what's happening--will be interesting to see if he lands on one.). Board seats are awesome, work a few times a year (Literally, 5 or 6 meetings), typically make 80k or so (Normally, some of them get crazy, like half a million for the big boys). Part of Pao's grievance, actually, was not getting to sit on multiple boards. (It's actually really lucrative because you can sit on multiple boards as long as there are no CoI.)

Most,if not all of the mistakes people are angry about are due to Pao. He might be right that some serious structural problems are his fault--like the lack of development of mod tools and infrastructure tools, or the focusing on advertising ect. But the PR blunders are purely Pao's fault; nuking a community rep that handles your companies biggest outreach and public perception activity, with no warning or system in place to replace them? That shit is a junior mistake, that should not be happening, at all. And she's rightly being called on fucking the dog on that one.
 

Phazael

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You sound like you have a problem with authority. I have modded several boards and being a moderator is just a big shit sandwich to eat every day. There is not really any upside to it. It might sound fun if you have never done it but it's just a lot of work and a lot of listening to people bitch and then if you do something about it then other people bitch at you instead. Any illusions you might have about "power" will be gone in a week so I don't really buy the power trip motivation. The only reason to do it is because someone has to. It's a community service thing, or it should be, which not everyone relates to.
I've done it several times for different communities. I agree completely that its thankless and have no problem with authority. The issue is when you are a mod making an honest effort and running things reasonably well, all it takes is one day of Sean style meltdown or Tyen trolling to shit all over your hard thankless work. Those people exist everywhere and they make Modding more difficult than the users, by far.
 

chthonic-anemos

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pro fedora tipAllen_Of_Gilead comments on Why is Reddit search the worst thing in the world all of a sudden??!
They wanted to combine the subreddit search with a "context appropriate" (cleaned up) search result with a "freshened up" (weirdly out of place) new UI that supposedly makes searching faster.. At least, that's what I got from their /r/changelog announcement.

You can actually change it back by going into preferences and scrolling down to "display options". Checking "show legacy search page" will enable the older search.