Rift: Planes of Telara

the rep grinds are even longer now if anything and cq is a fauxpvp clusterfuck that they now require for some bis pve gear (buffs and a trinket).

fwiw enjoying it immensely here. i love the combat and art and flexibility of the soul system. it's the only mmo i've played in the last 5 years that i feel like isn't patronizing me. but i'm pushing 40 so maybe i'm just getting sour.

is the game perfect? of course not. i play a warrior and we have a new 'top dps spec' every week or two which is ridiculous. they canned a part of the staff recently and 2 of the class devs were fired and the other two took on another role so the rogue dev now also does warriors and same with cleric/mage.

of course this leads to an incredibly ingenious theorycrafting community which continue to find ways to break the soul system that the devs hadn't even thought of so warriors get uber for a patch until it gets hotfixed and the cycle starts all over again. the fact that there are major almost weekly changes to the game are both a good and bad thing. they are very proactive in dealing with botting and broken specs so if you can live with the fact that that's part of mmo life then i'd say give it a shot.

if you don't appreciate a long term grind to progress then i'd say give it a pass.

it does feel sometimes like the team aren't as responsive as they used to be - scott is gone and there were a lot of other people laid off and they apparently hired an outsourcing manager which seems normal to me but some people are screaming 'the sky is falling' at. the boards are rife with 'inc f2p!!!11'

i don't know - i always tell people to try rift lite and then decide - it's the same game at 60 as it is at 20.

Allion is the warrior dev now? Oh boy.

yep. so far i would say it has been a slight improvement. that isn't saying much however.

That's surprising.

The warrior class only had one direction to go after the expansion and that was up. After seeing how well the cleric tank spec was I was kind of hoping they move that dev to the warriors. I expect anyone to come up with a better idea than "use packs as a VK tank for bubbles but by doing so lowers your mitigation". Also getting rid of pack conversion which was a staple in multi spec tank setup.

I played the expansion a month before giving it a break and I played Rift daily for the past year. I wouldn't say the expansion was a huge let down but it was enough for me to not find it as fun as the original Rift. In a few months I'll give it another try.

Fuya_sl said:

The warrior class only had one direction to go after the expansion and that was up. After seeing how well the cleric tank spec was I was kind of hoping they move that dev to the warriors. I expect anyone to come up with a better idea than "use packs as a VK tank for bubbles but by doing so lowers your mitigation". Also getting rid of pack conversion which was a staple in multi spec tank setup.

I played the expansion a month before giving it a break and I played Rift daily for the past year. I wouldn't say the expansion was a huge let down but it was enough for me to not find it as fun as the original Rift. In a few months I'll give it another try.

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my exact take. They made too many changes to the way you played your class. I really wasn't interested in any of them.

Levelling a rogue on wolfsbane, don't feel like trying to learn how to play my 50 warrior again just yet. Although he did have alot more PA points than i remember having, i guess they changed things at some point.

So what would be a useful PVP spec that isn't Dom. Because I don't have two keyboards to play it and every PVP mage build I see linked uses Dom and 40+ hotkeys. That or harbinger, which is.. no. Melee in conquest, fuck you.

I can faceroll well enough with ele spec but the pet dies constantly and that's half my damage gone. Warlock I suppose? I remember this old warlock/chloro spec that was godmode at 50 but I don't see a 60 build like that anywhere.

Do IAs get more interesting past the first tier? This isn't exactly enjoyable.

Not really no. Sometimes you get sent to close a rift or fight off some waves of invasions, but otherwise its basically speed questing for bear asses. I just did the 7 for the daily quest.

Saban_sl said:

Although he did have alot more PA points than i remember having, i guess they changed things at some point.

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They changed the exp curve for PA a while ago as well as made them account wide.

God, expert dungeon pugs are just like The Secret World. Loads of one-shot mechanics that idiots die to fucking over and over. I put a 3 of the group on ignore (same guild) and quit on the second boss of Empyrean Core after wipe #8 or so. This after an hour and a half in queue. When are they going to learn that the average MMO player is a window licking paint eating neckbearded retard who SUCKS AT VIDEO GAMES and tune everything outside of raids accordingly? Look at how MOP does it: Sure, there is lots of fire you are expected to not stand in. However, none of it kills you instantly. You have to blindly walk stupidly into at least two dumbshit-check mechanics in a row to actually die in MOP. That's enough wiggle room to help keep a dimwit for fucking your group entirely, or make up for a momentary distraction (GET OFF MY KEYBOARD CAT) or a brief lapse into stupidity (ooh something shiny!) Yes, its easy, that's the point. Your players suck.

Of course what makes it worse is a lot of these one-shot mechanics are badly out of synch with their graphic. Like shit on ground appears > shit on ground goes away > wait for it > waiiiit for it > actual thingy that kills you happens. (first boss of Empyrean Core, the LOS bit - holy shit) So you have to actually pay attention and learn from experience rather than relying on the giant glowing red shit.

I don't know if I can keep on playing. 15 minute McDungeons taking an hour each. I'm really getting tired of the entire MMO community being made up of people who would not get past world 1-1 of Mario Bros.

Hearing that people suck at Empyrean Core makes me sad; that was probably my favorite dungeon of all of the ones added to SL. I can't imagine how your group would've fared against the doctor. :b

Is there any better build for levelling rogue sub50 than mostly ranger and a bit of MM? Seems pretty safe and i kill stuff pretty quick, but i havent tried anything else. Didn't see much for levelling builds on the official forums.

Draegan_sl said:

That's surprising.

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Seriously. Back when I played, the Rogue dev was very unpopular as he never communicated anything and during Rogues big 1.5 "revamp" actually had Rogues significantly nerfed until a different dev came in at the last minute to actually make improvements.

The warrior dev, on the other hand, was very active on the warrior forums and seemed very well liked.

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Is there any better build for levelling rogue sub50 than mostly ranger and a bit of MM? Seems pretty safe and i kill stuff pretty quick, but i havent tried anything else. Didn't see much for levelling builds on the official forums.

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Bard buffs/heals while using ranger pets to tank for you was the easiest way to level last i played.

Ambiturner_sl said:

Seriously. Back when I played, the Rogue dev was very unpopular as he never communicated anything and during Rogues big 1.5 "revamp" actually had Rogues significantly nerfed until a different dev came in at the last minute to actually make improvements.

The warrior dev, on the other hand, was very active on the warrior forums and seemed very well liked.

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what?

it was a standing joke that even Atrius (or however it was spelled) was in on, on, on how little time he would spend on our forums. he did manage to slip in an OP skill from time to time though.

I didn't renew my sub, I was just too bored.

In fact I'm pretty much bored to death of gaming of all types.

I'll be your friend again Kreugan

Kreugen_sl said:

I didn't renew my sub, I was just too bored.

In fact I'm pretty much bored to death of gaming of all types.

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I think I know how you feel.

I haven't logged into Rift for more than about 10 minutes in a couple of weeks now. Also, looking at my list of games on Steam and GoG there's not a single title that I want to play. I've played NWN and co to death, I've played all my games that I impulse bought on the steam sale and found them to suck.

I kind of feel like Stan in that South Park episode where he wakes up one day and everything is shitty.