Science!! Fucking magnets, how do they work?

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hodj_sl said:
Im fine with skepticism on the issue, tbh.

But it is very similar to the electron. We cannot visibly observe an electron. They are a tiny tiny point of high negative charge. We only know they exist because all our mathematical models and predictions based on them operate as expected based on our understanding of them.

Tbh I dont find furrys position here in terms of his belief claim to be unwarranted, only his assertions that theyll never be found and dont exist is the step too far.

If his position is "I dont find the current evidence sufficient to warrant belief" though, Im actually completely okay with that from him, and others.
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I don't know that it affects my life one bit whether I believe in gravity waves or not, lol. I'm glad they're doing experiments to try to find out for sure though.

My concern would be that in dealing with instruments so insanely sensitive, the chance for false positive seems pretty high.
 
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Agree on the first point.

For the second thats why they take like 5 years and hopefully many data points to exclude bias in the results.
 
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Are you suggesting that gravity waves are no more theoretical than electrons? I think electrons are far more scientifically established.
 
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Id say theyre both very well established by theory and circumstantial evidence. The way you phrase your question is very slanted by saying "no more theoretical". Electrons have more direct applications and dont require observation of pulsar rotations and black holes and shit to test, so clearly theyre going to be a more well refined theory.
 
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What, people agreeing with me in the science thread? Tell lumie its time.
 
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Because that's how science works.
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nobel prize is a meaningless piece of drivel. That said, the research these guys did is fine.
 
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Iannis_sl said:
Because, you know, they're based on reals data instead of feels data.
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Every neutrino detector ever made produces the same radiation that its designed to detect. On top of that, they detect way less "neutrinos" than is necessary to say that what they're detecting isn't just radiation from the machine itself. Until that problem is corrected, neutrinos are a fancy idea that is mathematically required by parts of physics, but barely more then tenuous in terms of hard scientific data.

I mean, feel free to prove me wrong and show me a machine that isn't designed to detect itself. You'll find some that claim to have limited this issue, but they'll all be vulnerable to cascade decay.
 
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