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iannis

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Haha, eat shit NDT. Eat that shit and smile. Pluto might become a planet again.

Of course they've been talking about planet X since I was 3 years old. It's surprising that they're still finding orbital masses. But not that surprising I guess, if you're an trained astronomer maybe planetary orbits is far too pedestrian a subject for you to professionally pursue. And if you're an amateur astronomer, maybe you don't have access to the tools you would need to guess it, much less prove it.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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Haha, eat shit NDT. Eat that shit and smile. Pluto might become a planet again.

Of course they've been talking about planet X since I was 3 years old. It's surprising that they're still finding orbital masses. But not that surprising I guess, if you're an trained astronomer maybe planetary orbits is far too pedestrian a subject for you to professionally pursue. And if you're an amateur astronomer, maybe you don't have access to the tools you would need to guess it, much less prove it.
Nothings going to change the fact that Pluto is basically a giant comet.
 

Dabamf_sl

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A requirement of being a planet is that it clears its orbit of other objects by its gravity. I think that's the requirement that Pluto fails
 

Big Phoenix

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A requirement of being a planet is that it clears its orbit of other objects by its gravity. I think that's the requirement that Pluto fails
i still say pluto isnt a planet because people dont like the idea of 20-30 planets.
 

Brad2770

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As a kid, I always thought Pkuto's orbit was kind of fucked up compared to the other planets. It shouldn't be a planet for that very reason.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Haha, eat shit NDT. Eat that shit and smile. Pluto might become a planet again.

Of course they've been talking about planet X since I was 3 years old. It's surprising that they're still finding orbital masses. But not that surprising I guess, if you're an trained astronomer maybe planetary orbits is far too pedestrian a subject for you to professionally pursue. And if you're an amateur astronomer, maybe you don't have access to the tools you would need to guess it, much less prove it.
Boy you really misunderstood their reasoning for kicking Pluto out.
 

iannis

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Nah, I know they kicked it out cause it's small, has a highly irregular orbit as compared to other planets, is really a binary system with Charon, and honestly is just a giant asteroid.

But we're gonna put it right back in there anyway because we don't give a shit! If we find 2 more dark planets (that are actually planet-ish) out beyond it's orbit then we get to have the debate over nomenclature again. AND THIS TIME WE WON'T BE BLINDSIDED BY A HIPPY.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Nah, I know they kicked it out cause it's small, has a highly irregular orbit as compared to other planets, is really a binary system with Charon, and honestly is just a giant asteroid.

But we're gonna put it right back in there anyway because we don't give a shit! If we find 2 more dark planets (that are actually planet-ish) out beyond it's orbit then we get to have the debate over nomenclature again. AND THIS TIME WE WON'T BE BLINDSIDED BY A HIPPY.
Well maybe I'm in the wrong here, but I thought the existence of so many dark planets is what got Pluto kicked out in the first place. Because there are a number of bodies just outside our solar system that Pluto shares more in common with than the actual planets.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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Nah, I know they kicked it out cause it's small, has a highly irregular orbit as compared to other planets, is really a binary system with Charon, and honestly is just a giant asteroid.

But we're gonna put it right back in there anyway because we don't give a shit! If we find 2 more dark planets (that are actually planet-ish) out beyond it's orbit then we get to have the debate over nomenclature again. AND THIS TIME WE WON'T BE BLINDSIDED BY A HIPPY.
Not an asteroid, a Comet, kick Pluto in towards the solar system and it would have a giant ass tail.
 

iannis

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I don't remember either (been a while since I watched that nova), but I think the impetus was that we're able to find extra-solar planets. Because of that ability we need to define exactly what the word "planet" means in a way that is completely irrelevant if we're not able to find extra-solar "planetary" masses. Because, with current detection methods, all we're going to find are big honking balls of rock/gas that are obviously planets -- that's just inherent in the way that we look for them -- but as detection improves we'll start finding objects where it matters.

Another bit of semantic niggling that is probably going to happen: What do we call the system around Tau Ceti? Do we call it "The Tau Ceti System", do we call it "A Stellar System", or do we call it "The Solar System of Tau Ceti". Is Sol specifically OUR sun, or is SoltheSun?

So many questions!
 

iannis

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You'd think, and so would I, and yet there is a hodgepodge of nomenclature among professional astronomers.

It's a fairly arbitrary thing. And no one cares right now because everyone knows what the other guy means. THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN IT IS STANDARDIZED.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
 

Big Phoenix

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I think eventually we will find something again that challenges our notions of what a planet is. 50 years ago Id imagine no one would of ever thought of finding things such as hot jupiters.

One thing that kinda annoys me with defining of what exactly a planet is, is what are considered moons. Why are the 200m rubblepiles that are held together only by static electricity considered as equal as completely spherical and differentiated bodies like Titan or Ganymede? Shouldnt the rubblepiles be in a different category?
 

Tuco

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I never understood why people care so much about the planetary/pluto debate. I love astronomy and space but who cares if it's a planet or not? It doesn't change its nature or role in our system. It's not like the planets show up to a planetary parliament and vote on comet's path and the sun's burn/flare rate.
 

iannis

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Because 9 is a more pleasing number than 8.

Bro, do you even numerology? The Three of Threes. The Celestial Sphere.

I think the only person that really cares is NDT.