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BrutulTM

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It fucks up all the mnemonic devices that people made up to remember the names of the planets.
 

Wuyley_sl

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Someone mind telling me how we can look at galaxies extremely far away but not know about possible planets orbiting our own? Is it because they don't pass in front of their orbiting star (from our prospective) and thus we have to actually "see" them instead of relying on temps / colors / UV / whatever the hell they usually use?
 

iannis

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A galaxy is a lot bigger than a planet.

There are two main methods that I am aware of for detecting exoplanets. They both require prolonged observation. The primary is to find a wobbly star. Through the magic of math and fine observation we can deduce the fact of orbiting mass. Then when we've done that we can turn a telescopic array for an even finer look and confirmation.

And this is the second method, detecting a transit. But that is a matter of resources, patience, and pure blind luck (that's why you look for wobbles first).

The main part of astronomy, besides math, is knowing exactly where to look and exactly when to look. And even then you need to be lucky enough that what you are looking for is both visible and visible from your vantage.
 

Big Phoenix

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tl;dr we cant use the same methods used to find extra solar planets as planets within our own system.
 

Eomer

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i still say pluto isnt a planet because people dont like the idea of 20-30 planets.
As was explained to your dumb ass before, when it's all said and done it won't be dozens. It will be hundreds of objects like Pluto:List of possible dwarf planets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A line had to be drawn somewhere. It made far more sense to draw that line between Neptune and Pluto, than somewhere else further down the line. No definition is perfect.

Iannis_sl said:
But we're gonna put it right back in there anyway because we don't give a shit! If we find 2 more dark planets (that are actually planet-ish) out beyond it's orbit then we get to have the debate over nomenclature again. AND THIS TIME WE WON'T BE BLINDSIDED BY A HIPPY.
No, the debate was basically settled. Even if two large planets are found way the fuck out there, the classification (if not the actual name) will still fit them. Because they haven't cleared their orbits.

Wuyley_sl said:
Someone mind telling me how we can look at galaxies extremely far away but not know about possible planets orbiting our own? Is it because they don't pass in front of their orbiting star (from our prospective) and thus we have to actually "see" them instead of relying on temps / colors / UV / whatever the hell they usually use?
Basically, the planets that are being talked about here are incredibly faint because they're so far from the Sun. They're also on absolutely massive orbits, and don't tend to move quickly in the sky. The only way to detect them is to do surveys of the sky and look for incredibly faint objects moving faster than the background stars. Even Pluto's original discovery was largely a fluke. Now that they're doing extensive surveys, they're finding dozens of large objects way the fuck out there. See link above.
 

Eomer

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Neptune hasnt cleared pluto.
Quick, get on the bat phone to the IAU! They never thought of that!

Clearing the neighbourhood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The phrase refers to an orbiting body (a planet or protoplanet) "sweeping out" its orbital region over time, by gravitationally interacting with smaller bodies nearby. Over many orbital cycles, a large body will tend to cause small bodies either to accrete with it, or to be disturbed to another orbit, or to be captured either as a satellite or into a resonant orbit. As a consequence it does not then share its orbital region with other bodies of significant size, except for its own satellites, or other bodies governed by its own gravitational influence. This latter restriction excludes objects whose orbits may cross but which will never collide with each other due to orbital resonance, such as Jupiter and the Trojan asteroids, Earth and 3753 Cruithne, or Neptune and the plutinos.[2]
 

Big Phoenix

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yeah and that shows the error in their thought process. Why is australia a continent but greenland isnt?
 

Blazin

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yeah and that shows the error in their thought process. Why is australia a continent but greenland isnt?
Pretty sure you aren't being serious, but Australia is much larger than Greenland. Don't let those silly maps deceive you.

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Gavinmad

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oh good lord I hope you kid. Don't make yourself look pants on head retarded. How about you look up plate tectonics then look up the history of the term continent then slink away slowly.
I'm not really sure what happened there. My point was more reinforcing that no matter how you look at it, geologically or by convention, Australia is a continent and Greenland isn't. I guess I was supposed to be replying to Little Penix and not you? I dunno.
 

khalid

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It is pretty arbitrary to decide Greenland isn't a continent but Australia is.

wikipedia on continents_sl said:
Conventionally, "continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water."[2] Many of the seven most commonly recognized continents identified by convention are not discrete landmasses separated by water. The criterion "large" leads to arbitrary classification: Greenland, with a surface area of 2,166,086 square kilometres (836,330 sq mi) is considered the world's largest island, while Australia, at 7,617,930 square kilometres (2,941,300 sq mi) is deemed a continent.
Now you could go by plates, but then again you have some arbitrary mergings to consider.