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Saw STP one time in concert. It was later in the 2000's during one of the re-union tours. Weiland was a rock star in every sense of the word. He looked the part, was supremely talented, and his performance was so on-point that it made you wonder if he was lip-syncing. I still don't know, but I came away from the performance impressed.

He was completely disconnected from the audience though. It was clearly all business, just another gig. Zero acknowledgement that the crowd was even present. Never went off script. It seemed like he had already given up long ago and was just riding the roller-coaster till it flew off the rails.

STP, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, and Pearl Jam. The end of an era.
I have to say, I am pretty fucking torn up about this right now. I heard the news this morning on the way to work and wasn't thinking too much about it during the day, but now that I'm home and looking up shit about Scott Weiland, I am feeling very sad.

I wouldn't say Weiland was always disconnected from the audience. I imagine you'd have to hope he was in the right state of mind during your specific show if he were fucked up. I'm sure he was on something the majority of the times performing. Sometimes in his performaces, you could tell he was way past that point. I've been to 2 Velvet Revolver concerts and 1 STP concert after they reunited. All of them were incredible experiences. At one of the VR concerts, they were doing Sex Type Thing and Weiland stopped singing during the song and ran all the way to the back center repeating the part, "Here I come, I come, I come" while the band kept playing. He came all the way up to where I was sitting with my friend, and he started heading down the row right in front of us. He walked into the seating area where we were in and he was within arms reach of me and finished most of the song standing there on top of people. It was pretty damn epic...
 

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Saw em in 95 too in Dallas. Great concert although it was weird because I saw Ted Nugent and Bad Company right before them.

RIP


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My youth is fading away.

Great voice.
Funny I said the exact same thing on fb and so did Billy Corgan. 90s kids had good music taste lol. Was lucky enough at least to see Layne when he was alive. Best concert I ever saw at Lollapalooza in 93 I think?

And yea that Doors performance was insanely good. RIP
 

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At one of the VR concerts, they were doing Sex Type Thing and Weiland stopped singing during the song and ran all the way to the back center repeating the part, "Here I come, I come, I come" while the band kept playing. He came all the way up to where I was sitting with my friend, and he started heading down the row right in front of us. He walked into the seating area where we were in and he was within arms reach of me and finished most of the song standing there on top of people. It was pretty damn epic...
I was two rows in front of him doing this at VA Beach. I got a fist bump as he ran past.

When I saw the STP reunion tour I was front row center.
 

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This is a huge bummer. Saw the news but just now saw the thread on it.
 

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There ain't no song better for driving at night than Big Easy imo. Such a chill song to drive around to.

I knew I was going to cry when I listened to this, so I avoided going and pulling it up on youtube the past couple days. But I couldn't help myself from clicking play when looking through the thread.

I'm really sad now. :/
 

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Didn't really like STP until their third album, by that time they had created their own sound. Tiny Music was like classic rock + glam rock + grunge mixed together.

 

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That video is so mid 90s retro flash backs to the 60s I completely forgot it existed holy shit what a throw back.

That shit is the exact culture I was immersed in the most in my teens, that pseudo retro hippy grunge era that lasted about 5 minutes before the goth movement really took off with Marilyn Manson and then we moved into the 2000s and bands like System of a Down and shit hit and everything started to homogenize into pop and whatnot.

Great video. Seriously.
 

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I knew I was going to cry when I listened to this, so I avoided going and pulling it up on youtube the past couple days. But I couldn't help myself from clicking play when looking through the thread.

I'm really sad now. :/
the fuck
 

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The guy turned out be a huge douche to his own kids.

Scott Weiland's Family: 'Don't Glorify This Tragedy' | Rolling Stone

December 3rd, 2015 is not the day Scott Weiland died. It is the official day the public will use to mourn him, and it was the last day he could be propped up in front of a microphone for the financial benefit or enjoyment of others. The outpouring of condolences and prayers offered to our children, Noah and Lucy, has been overwhelming, appreciated and even comforting. But the truth is, like so many other kids, they lost their father years ago. What they truly lost on December 3rd was hope.

We don't want to downplay Scott's amazing talent, presence or his ability to light up any stage with brilliant electricity. So many people have been gracious enough to praise his gift. The music is here to stay. But at some point, someone needs to step up and point out that yes, this will happen again - because as a society we almost encourage it. We read awful show reviews, watch videos of artists falling down, unable to recall their lyrics streaming on a teleprompter just a few feet away. And then we click "add to cart" because what actually belongs in a hospital is now considered art.

Many of these artists have children. Children with tears in their eyes, experiencing panic because their cries go unheard. You might ask, "How were we to know? We read that he loved spending time with his children and that he'd been drug-free for years!" In reality, what you didn't want to acknowledge was a paranoid man who couldn't remember his own lyrics and who was only photographed with his children a handful of times in 15 years of fatherhood. I've always wanted to share more than anyone was comfortable with. When writing a book years ago, it pained me to sometimes gloss over so much grief and struggle, but I did what I thought was best for Noah and Lucy. I knew they would one day see and feel everything that I'd been trying to shield them from, and that they'd eventually be brave enough to say, "That mess was our father. We loved him, but a deep-rooted mix of love and disappointment made up the majority of our relationship with him."

Even after Scott and I split up, I spent countless hours trying to calm his paranoid fits, pushing him into the shower and filling him with coffee, just so that I could drop him into the audience at Noah's talent show, or Lucy's musical. Those short encounters were my attempts at giving the kids a feeling of normalcy with their dad. But anything longer would often turn into something scary and uncomfortable for them. Spending so many years immersed in Scott's multiple illnesses led to my own depression; at one point, I was misdiagnosed as bipolar. I feared the same would happen to the children. There were times that Child Protective Services did not allow him to to be alone with them.

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When Scott did move on to another relationship, I hoped it would inspire him to grow. I had often encouraged him to date a "normal" girl, a woman who was also a mother, someone who had the energy that I no longer had to love him. Instead, when he remarried, the children were replaced. They were not invited to his wedding; child support checks often never arrived. Our once sweet Catholic boy refused to watch the kids participate in Christmas Eve plays because he was now an atheist. They have never set foot into his house, and they can't remember the last time they saw him on a Father's Day. I don't share this with you to cast judgment, I do so because you most likely know at least one child in the same shoes. If you do, please acknowledge them and their experience. Offer to accompany them to the father-daughter dance, or teach them to throw a football. Even the bravest girl or boy will refrain from asking for something like that; they may be ashamed, or not want to inconvenience you. Just offer - or even insist if you have to.

This is the final step in our long goodbye to Scott. Even though I felt we had no other choice, maybe we never should have let him go. Or maybe these last few years of separation were his parting gift to us - the only way he could think to soften what he knew would one day crush us deep into our souls. Over the last few years, I could hear his sadness and confusion when he'd call me late into the night, often crying about his inability to separate himself from negative people and bad choices. I won't say he can rest now, or that he's in a better place. He belongs with his children barbecuing in the backyard and waiting for a Notre Dame game to come on. We are angry and sad about this loss, but we are most devastated that he chose to give up.

Noah and Lucy never sought perfection from their dad. They just kept hoping for a little effort. If you're a parent not giving your best effort, all anyone asks is that you try just a little harder and don't give up. Progress, not perfection, is what your children are praying for. Our hope for Scott has died, but there is still hope for others. Let's choose to make this the first time we don't glorify this tragedy with talk of rock and roll and the demons that, by the way, don't have to come with it. Skip the depressing T-shirt with 1967-2015 on it - use the money to take a kid to a ballgame or out for ice cream.



Read more:Scott Weiland's Family: 'Don't Glorify This Tragedy' | Rolling Stone
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I like her style, calling out the people who idolized him.
 

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Eh, rockstar drug addict is a shitty father. About as surprising as his death.
 

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I like her style, calling out the people who idolized him.
I don't think anyone idolized him.

They may have liked his music, but everyone was fully aware this guy was a train wreck. That's a large part of the tragedy. He was a good talent who was never able to really reach his potential because of his inability to shake the addiction monkey off his back.
 

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the fact that she wrote that essay days after his death just proves she is a miserable cunt. no wonder Scott was driven to drugs having to deal with people like that.
 

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lol, why did she fuck him and have his kids?

Fucks sake I hate victim mentality. Those kids are victims yea. But their mom needs to step up her game and stop fucking blaming people.

Guy was a fantastic fucking artist. But I wouldn't of hired him to mow my god damned lawn unless he would sing while doing it. We don't idolize them beyond their talent.
 

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the fact that she wrote that essay days after his death just proves she is a miserable cunt. no wonder Scott was driven to drugs having to deal with people like that.
To be fair she thought she married Scott P. Weiland noted Nobel Prize winner, Corgi trainer, and all around good guy.
 

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I don't think anyone idolized him.

They may have liked his music, but everyone was fully aware this guy was a train wreck. That's a large part of the tragedy. He was a good talent who was never able to really reach his potential because of his inability to shake the addiction monkey off his back.
Haven't read that Rolling Stone thing, but I'm not sure if it was mentioned there or elsewhere that Weiland was apparently bi-polar as well. That could certainly play a large part both in his addictions, and in his being just an overall terrible human being. I remember reading an interview with Slash and/or Duff from GNR from a few years ago, and they basically said they would never in a million years consider working with him again. And it wasn't just the drugs, but a bunch of shit. The guy was mental.

Shame, cause he made some great music over the years. Just about no one listened to 12 Bar Blues, but that album was pretty dope in my opinion. Maybe just cause like a lot of shit, I very much associate it with my teen years and particular events.