Service Providers (Internet, TV, Etc)

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Arative

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Dr. Mario Speedwagon_sl said:
Isn't it wonderful that corporations can sue the government for the right to continue fucking their customers?
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All the while, getting sweetheart tax breaks from the same government while fucking their customers. I really hope the FCC sticks to its guns and reclassifies ISP as title 2.

In other news Wallstreet is turning against the comcast/time warner merger. Analyst don't believe that it will actually happen.
http://stopthecap.com/2015/02/04/wal...-will-blocked/
With the FCC changing the definition of broadband to 25/3, cable will hold a 89.7% market share. It would be nice to get more competition in the marketplace.
 
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This is the FCC official proposal
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...C-331869A1.pdf
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Looks good actually. Most obvious potential loop hole is "Reasonable Network Management" Section but I am sure there are others. Still it as a lot to like in it.

Reasonable Network Management: For the purposes of the rules, other than paid prioritization, an ISP
may engage in reasonable network management. This recognizes the need of broadband providers to
manage the technical and engineering aspects of their networks.
? In assessing reasonable network management, the Commission's proposed standard would take
account of the particular engineering attributes of the technology involved-whether it be fiber,
DSL, cable, unlicensed wireless, mobile, or another network medium.
? However, the network practice must be primarily used for and tailored to achieving a legitimate
network management-and not commercial-purpose. For example, a provider can't cite
reasonable network management to justify reneging on its promise to supply a customer with
"unlimited" data.
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I expected that to be something like 650 pages long when I clicked on it. Was pleasantly surprised at how concise and to-the-point it is.
 
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The reason Verizon was able to sue the FCC was because they didn't invoke Title 2. It even said in the decision that if they had done that, the lawsuit would have likely gone the other way.

I was listening to this discussion on the "This Week in Google" podcast and another interesting fact that they mentioned was that raising the definition of broadband means that most DSL providers are no longer "broadband" and Comcast now provides over 50% of broadband in the US, making their case that they are not a monopoly and should totally be able to merge with Time Warner less plausible.

I'm afraid though, that this is all just "lame duck president seeking a legacy" stuff and as soon as Obama is gone there will be a new FCC chair that will puss out on all of this if ATT/Verizon/Comcast's many bought out senators and congressmen don't shit all over it first.
 
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What's our stance on Verizon FiOS? Moving to Long Beach and it's the preferred provider of my community complex, get 300+ channels, 2 HD Boxes, 75/75mbps and phone-unlimited for 80$ NO CONTRACT.
 
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That's a pretty nice set up as long as they are not fucking you with caps .
 
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$80 sounds really good.. but no contract? Doesn't that mean the price could instantly jump up at any time?

What the fuck am I talking about, Comcast does that every day and we're on contract.
 
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The lady said it was guaranteed for 1 year then it jumps 15$. By then I'll cancel and have my husband subscribe with this maiden name.
 
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Anyone else starting to see TV ads against title 2, claiming it will add $11 billion in new taxes and fees to the middle class?
 
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I guess AT&T Uverse basically got fiber into neighborhoods, but then they left the individual connections to homes as the old standard phone lines/coax or whatever, so that limited speeds. But they never even offered the service of bringing the fiber line all the way to your home(like google has been doing).

Bastards.

Of course, had AT&T offered that a decade ago when Uverse started rolling out, they probably would have charged $500 a month for it, not the $70 they are forced to do now because of Google's pricing.
 
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ATT to match Google Fiber speeds, prices in Kansas City and suburbs | The Kansas City Star The Kansas City Star

AT&T to offer Google Fiber-like speeds & pricing in KC

So basically it looks like AT&T has had the ability to offer gigiabit speeds for who knows how long, but just didn't because they had no competition. Nice. A-holes.
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ATT charges $29 more for gigabit fiber that doesn??Tt watch your Web browsing | Ars Technica

It's the same price if you let AT&T track you. It's $30 more if you want to opt out of their tracking. It's like these ISP's are actively trying to out do each other to try and become the worst company in the US.

AT&T's gigabit fiber-to-the-home service has just arrived in Kansas City, and the price is the same as Google Fiber-if you let AT&T track your Web browsing history.

Just as it did when launching its "GigaPower" service in Austin, Texas in late 2013, AT&T offers different prices based on how jealously users guard their privacy. AT&T's $70 per-month pricing for gigabit service is the same price as Google Fiber, but AT&T charges an additional $29 a month to customers who opt out of AT&T's "Internet Preferences" program.

AT&T says it tracks "the webpages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter... AT&T Internet Preferences works independently of your browser's privacy settings regarding cookies, do-not-track, and private browsing. If you opt-in to AT&T Internet Preferences, AT&T will still be able to collect and use your Web browsing information independent of those settings."

Keeping tabs on the customer's Web browsing lets AT&T serve advertisements targeted to individual users.

"Using the IP address assigned to each GigaPower account, AT&T scans for your AT&T Internet Preferences election," the company says. "AT&T will treat your Internet browsing activity in accordance with your election. If you chose to participate in the AT&T Internet Preferences program, your Internet traffic is routed to AT&T's Internet Preferences web browsing and analytics platform. If you chose not to participate in the AT&T Internet Preferences program, your Internet traffic is not routed to the Internet Preferences analytics platform. AT&T may collect and use web browsing information for other purposes, as described in our Privacy Policy, even if you do not participate in the Internet Preferences program."
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