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baerf_sl

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I think Windows Phones, just like everything MS in recent years, gets needlessly panned by the media. The Nokia 1020 and 1520 are both great phones. We have some employees that were holding onto their OLD (think OS 5/6) blackberries because they were simple to use, had great battery life, and had easy/quick access to email. These people don't give a shit about facebook on their phone, they just wanted a good email experience with great battery life. IPhones failed with them because of battery life/keyboard. Android phones for the same reason, plus they found the interface confusing. However, they ALL liked the 1020's and 1520's when I handed them out. Battery life on both units could almost reach the 2 day mark, longer even with the 1020's camera frame/extended battery, and the larger screen made the keyboard tolerable for them. They all also liked the customizable live tile home screen.

I honestly can't think of any significant shortcomings of the OS besides lack of apps and no EAP-TLS support for corporate Wi-Fi. In terms of user friendliness and interface I rank it right up there iOS.
I think it might of been yourself earlier in this thread recommending the Nokia as a alternative to my dead Blackberry (loved that phone) - if so then thank you. But after a few more days usage, i'm still hooked. I use Office 365 and SkyDrive (or OneDrive in the UK) and it all integrates nicely - Looking at getting a Surface tablet to replace my work issued MacBook Air (I've been using the Air now for 8 months, and it's just an expensive thin terminal for me, all my work is done via Citrix for all the management tools and applications i use which are Windows only).
 

Lenas

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Well it looks like Android L is gonna be the one to take me away from Windows Phone... OnePlus One, here I come, I guess.
 

Void

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My battery went shit up a week or so ago when Amazon App Services (I think it was called) got updated. I don't even use anything Amazon on my phone, actively, but it was taking up like 25% battery while in stand by. Also somehow 'high accuracy' got turned on in the GPS settings at or around the same time. Fixed those two and things seem to be more or less normal now.
I did a soft reboot (hold power and volume up for 10 seconds) and that seems to have shut off whatever app might have been draining it. I have that GSAM battery monitor app running now to see what might be the culprit, but as of right now it has been on for 9 hours without charging and is still at 87%, so we'll see if starting anything up causes it to start draining again.

Can't help with your battery issues, but you can try an app called Light Flow. I use it for my notification lights, and it works great.
I used (and bought) Lightflow on my Galaxy Nexus and it was awesome. I could tell at a glance what notifications I had by what colors were flashing. On the M8, there are only two colors available, green and orange. Period. I have no idea how a phone so advanced got limited to two fucking colors. I believe with Lightflow I could probably set it so that it keeps flashing longer than 5 minutes, but it will only be green or orange. And since I was having battery issues, I didn't want to introduce any more battery drain by having it continue to flash, but now that I might have fixed that I'll re-install it and check it out. But it seems to me that should be a standard fucking feature on the phone and I shouldn't have to fuck with an app. Last time I googled it (which was awhile ago admittedly) it seemed like people either had it flash forever, or 5 minutes, and no one knew why or how it was decided what a particular phone would do. There is no setting for it that I can find though.

Either way, when it is time to upgrade I'm moving to something with a wider LED selection, two is just fucking dumb. Yeah, maybe a silly thing to hinge my satisfaction on, but in another year I'll just have even more choices on phones that are as good or better, so I might as well get exactly what I want.
 

Joeboo

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Just for the record(and probably not that anyone cares) but the LG G2 has a shitty, shitty camera. It looks great if you are in bright sunlight, but the second you get into even a tad bit of shade, or taking a picture indoors, it looks like total ass. I'm not even talking about what people would consider "low light" photography, just "not blazingly bright", like if you're just in your living room with the blinds open on a sunny day, the picture is ass.

My wife's had her G2 for about a month or two now, and while it's a great phone otherwise, I think I'm going to have to ditch it, as we just end up deleting 3/4 of the pictures that she takes of our kid because they're so goodamned blurry/pixelated/splotchy if not in direct bright light. They both have 13MP cameras, but my god if the processing or sensor or something in the G2 doesn't just suck compared to Samsungs hardware.

Here's the difference between her G2 and the camera in my Note 3. Same lighting, same room, same time of day(just a different angle)

G2:
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Note 3
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She basically can't take any usable photographs inside of our home, which sucks.
 

Lenas

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Neat, wasn't aware of it - flipped the option on for ART on my M8 to see how it does.
You're forgiven. They just "announced" it today during the I/O Keynote (which I'm surprised didn't spur any discussion here... really impressive shit.)
 

Denamian

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ART had been available since 4.4, it's just unfinished. It's pretty stable but some apps aren't compatible with it. Xposed users have been begging for ART support, but the dev of Xposed has said he won't bother until Google finalizes it, which will likely be in the next few months if they're making ART default in L.

Vvoid, like many HTC phones, the M8 is physically unable to display any color other than green or orange with the notification light. It was one of the things that always annoyed me with my EVO 4G back in the day. Best I could suggest is using lightflow to change the blinking frequency to differentiate between apps.

The new UI design that has been creeping in to android looks good, having it system wide in L will be nice.
 

Lusiphur

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Lightflow needs root to work on any HTC phone so you can't use it uto keep the led blinking. Unless you want to fuck about with rooting and I just cba these days. My M8 was an impulse buy which I regret somewhat. Definitely going back to Google phones the next time I refresh.
Would be worth it just to remove the fucking Facebook app.
 

Vaclav

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I still think it's weird your LED flash has a time limit to it Vvoid - mine goes for at least 30 min (always got one in the morning from overnight emails - often with it being hours since) on my M8 - odd thing for a VZW model to do differently than Sprint.
 

Vaclav

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Impression so far on ART is about 50-60% more battery life with about 4 hrs of active use (about 90 min of gaming and quite a bit browsing) using 24% of my M8s battery with everything on.
 

Intrinsic

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I still think it's weird your LED flash has a time limit to it Vvoid - mine goes for at least 30 min (always got one in the morning from overnight emails - often with it being hours since) on my M8 - odd thing for a VZW model to do differently than Sprint.
Mine is Verizon and works like this as well. I mean, like this as in continues to blink forever until I clear the notification.
 

Araxen

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My Verizon contract is up on July 8th and I'm getting a Nexus 5 and moving to Ting! I can't fucking wait! Sprint coverage is good in my area too.
 

Vaclav

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Mine is Verizon and works like this as well. I mean, like this as in continues to blink forever until I clear the notification.
Even more odd then - maybe Vvoid's has a defect or some conflicting app?

After another day of ART use - doesn't seem the battery benefits are that substantial depending on how much I run the game I play - the game actually looks to be using a TON more (like seriously feels close to 40-50% more that it uses than the already hefty amount it did - close to 10% an hour when playing it) but basic functions seem to be using far less however. It's an interesting, but mixed bag.
 

Lenas

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Just keep in mind that not everything is updated to take advantage of ART yet. That game may be one such app.
 

Void

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Mine is Verizon and works like this as well. I mean, like this as in continues to blink forever until I clear the notification.
My limited internet research seems to indicate it has nothing to do with carrier, and just randomly seems to happen. It isn't worth me attempting to trade it in for a new one, but it is certainly annoying. I keep looking for a setting but I can't find one, and as previously noted HTC phones don't play well with Lightflow, so fuck it, I'll just wait 9 months and get something better.

I switched over to ART as well, and seems like it has made a bit of a difference, but I hardly use my phone for much besides a few texts and calls here and there. And reading my Kindle app on the shitter at work. Maybe a slight improvement in battery life.

My battery issue seems to be fixed now, or at least I haven't restarted whatever app was causing it. Have 86% left at 8PM, took it off the charger at 6AM, so I'm definitely back to where I was, plus a little bit which is probably due to ART. Previously I could have left the phone virtually untouched all day and it probably would have been giving me the low battery warning by now. Still no idea what was causing it, but the soft reset seems to have remedied it, thankfully.
 

Zindan

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So I got a Moto G LTE the other day, and I am having an odd issue. With my old phone ( HTC Rezound ), I could have it plugged in and charging up while I still used the phone to browse the web / stream Spotify. Now, with the Moto G, if I have it charging, I can't do anything with it, the phone will just stay at the locked screen until I unplug it. Haven't been able to find any setting that sounds like it would deal with using while charging. Any ideas?
 

Vaclav

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I'd look at the Lock Page settings, most recent phones have a few lock page options.
 

Mageling

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So I've been running L on my Nexus 5 the last couple days. While VERY much a developer preview, it still runs quite well. Apps that haven't been updated to run in ART yet are obviously crashing, but most apps that I use regularly are running on my phone. I imagine things like Dropbox will get updated soon, but I've moved away from them after I lost a promotion that gave me 50GB of storage. Google Drive works just as well.

Overall I'm pleased with what they've done. I'm not a huge fan of losing the "Me" tile on the quicksettings menu. Now you have a very small circular icon in the notification window, and tapping it brings up a contact card in the Heads Up display. Currently it brings up the card behind the notification pane so you have to swipe it back up to see the card, but I'm sure the flow of how that works will be sorted out in later builds.
 

Lanx

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Contract is up, sticking with verizon, galaxy s3 2 years no issues (cracked screen my fault) should i goto note 3 galaxy s5 or play with windows phone? What gps you use with windows phone?
 

Araxen

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Anyone here already with Ting want me to use them as a referral? I'll be signing up with them soon.