Star Citizen Online - The search for more money

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Punko

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I've said it before, but this thing allowed Christ Roberts to marry a porn star and pretend they are a happy couple.

Guy is a genius, Wolf of Online Funding Games (best watched movie by millenials in 2023) future star.
 

a_skeleton_05

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I have serious reservations about pre-ordering games because it might be pissing away money. I simply cannot fathom how people can put thousands or tens of thousands down on a promise of a game.

Like this reddit comment:

looserhawknew user/low karma -3 points 17 hours ago
I'm going to guess about as much as around 6 full AAA games with all DLCs and season pass included.

[–]Fortunate_Soul 4 points 15 hours ago
I agree, though I don't see any reason to be salty about it. I know people who pay that much for magic cards. CIG have found a great market for selling collectable items, if people want to have their own expensive ship collection then more power to them

MTG is a physical card game that actually exists and the cards have resale value. This is going to (maybe) be a video game that could shut down without a moments notice if it even gets released at all. You could be banned from the game and lose access to all of it.

I really wish someone would do some professional research on the heavy backers for this game to find out what makes them tick.
 
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etchazz

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I have serious reservations about pre-ordering games because it might be pissing away money. I simply cannot fathom how people can put thousands or tens of thousands down on a promise of a game.

Like this reddit comment:



MTG is a physical card game that actually exists and the cards have resale value. This is going to (maybe) be a video game that could shut down without a moments notice if it even gets released at all. You could be banned from the game and lose access to all of it.

I really wish someone would do some professional research on the heavy backers for this game to find out what makes them tick.

You don't need to do any research to find out what makes them tick. They simply have too much money.
 

DickTrickle

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I don't think that's it. People talking about saving up to buy ships or things like Pantheon access. Not all are rich. Probably most aren't, honestly.
 

Srathor

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The idea of something is much more enticing than the reality. When you look over the idea it is perfect, no misshapen boobs, no nasally voice. No energy flow problems to shields. No mismatched skins. No shitty pathing so that you need a death touch. No cloth caps. Reality and facing the flaws is hard.

Finished games have things set in stone that you will disagree with, so are worth less due to these glaring, monstrous flaws.

The more things get nailed down into reality, the less worth it has. Bastards! Ruining the dreams!
 
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etchazz

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I don't think that's it. People talking about saving up to buy ships or things like Pantheon access. Not all are rich. Probably most aren't, honestly.

I was talking mostly about the whales who have invested tens of thousands of dollars into this game. No one is investing that much money if they're broke, because they simply wouldn't have the money to invest. I'm sure there are a lot of people who skipped a vacation or a dental visit to buy a space ship in this game, but the people keeping the lights on for this sham of a company are these freaking lunatic whales who are buying every ship, base, and insurance policy that they create every several of months.
 

Heriotze

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sunk cost fallacy. I'd be willing to bet that the whales keeping the lights on are heavily populated by people choosing to eat ramen for weeks in order to attempt to get this to a dollar amount where their already ridiculous investments might turn into something tangible. People who have a ton of money can waste it like no other on inane shit like this but the real money is made from the guy that just knows the $5k he couldn't afford and dumped into this is going to pay off one day so he continues to throw good money after bad in both support and in futilely keeping his dream alive. People who don't have a ton of money and have no idea how to handle themselves do incredibly stupid shit like this and that seems to be their bread and butter
 

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The idea of something is much more enticing than the reality. When you look over the idea it is perfect, no misshapen boobs, no nasally voice. No energy flow problems to shields. No mismatched skins. No shitty pathing so that you need a death touch. No cloth caps. Reality and facing the flaws is hard.

Finished games have things set in stone that you will disagree with, so are worth less due to these glaring, monstrous flaws.

The more things get nailed down into reality, the less worth it has. Bastards! Ruining the dreams!
I think you're spot on with this and developers have now caught on and monetized this game "model." Games like Star Citizen, Pantheon, dozens others are more valuable in the "idea" stage than they will be at any other point in their life cycle. Based on what I've seen, as long as developers can show any small amount of progress, no matter how unreasonably, laughably slow it is, people will keep throwing money at these games. It's a very dangerous concept in actuality.
 
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Morrow

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I thought one of you poops said the Arathi rares were daily? I guess it would be silly if they were, so much gear. I'm at 338 ilvl and I've ran a grand total of 3 Heroics and 1 Mythic and 0 raids.
 
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etchazz

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sunk cost fallacy. I'd be willing to bet that the whales keeping the lights on are heavily populated by people choosing to eat ramen for weeks in order to attempt to get this to a dollar amount where their already ridiculous investments might turn into something tangible. People who have a ton of money can waste it like no other on inane shit like this but the real money is made from the guy that just knows the $5k he couldn't afford and dumped into this is going to pay off one day so he continues to throw good money after bad in both support and in futilely keeping his dream alive. People who don't have a ton of money and have no idea how to handle themselves do incredibly stupid shit like this and that seems to be their bread and butter

Yes, but what's tangible? It's not like you're buying stock in the company, or that you get a ROI when the game is launched. We're talking about people actually purchasing spaceships, insurance, and outposts for a game that doesn't even fucking exist so that they can P2W if the game ever launches.
 

Valderen

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I think the hope for a few of those people is that when/if the game comes out it will be extremely popular and they can sell some of their ships on the secondary market for profit. So I think a few actually see it as an investment.
 

Tuco

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That's probably an after the fact rationalization.
100%.

I think anyone who went in with that as their rationality would've sold their goods long ago. Nobody is going to hold onto that stuff for the several years it takes for SC to release.

Besides that, I think the value of these p2w ships will absolutely plummet as soon as the game supports earning stuff in game and the game is either fun and you'll just want to earn shit, or it's lame and people won't want to play anyway.

Though if SC turns out to be some kind of Korean grind fest ala Archeage / Black Desert Online where whales rule space, that's fine with me too. Let them all bankrupt each other, lol.
 

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Can we rename this thread, "Senior Citizen Online - The search for a launch date"?
 
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Borzak

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They don't want a launch date. A launch date will cut off the cash flow from the whales who dream of whatever and pour money into them. Assuming it's not a giant money laundering deal.
 
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Grim1

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So glad I missed the kickstarter for this. Had every intention of giving them some money but was busy and forgot. Whew
 
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