Star Trek: Picard

Dom said:

Yeah... don't look up her current photos if you want to keep those memories pure.

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I just did, she looks fine for a 44 year old if you ask me. I'd still definitely hit it. Thought I was about to look at a late stage Kirstie Allie or Kelly McGillis or something.

Dom said:

Most of her pics are from ent era. The most recent one I saw was her having Botox'd the fuck out of her lips to a disturbing level. Can't find it atm

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Just over a year old, from Dec 2018:

She has always had big lips:

Quineloe said:

Yeah I also thought he was talking about Glinn / Gul / Legate Damar at first.

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Dumar / Dukat. I accept that I have commited a cardinal sin amongst trekkie fanboism and accept my punishment.

Bring on the klingon cattle prod sticks!

Burns said:

Just over a year old, from Dec 2018:

Spoiler: for size

She has always had big lips:

Spoiler: size

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I mean, she's obviously had some botox for wrinkles done, but other than that I don't detect any obvious plastic surgery. And yeah, her lips have always been super juicy.

Intrinsic said:

I thought the Admiral whatever lady did a perfectly fine job explaining why they abandoned the Romulan program. Same with Francine interviewing Picard. Picard just came off as an entitled ass.

Didn’t like the dialogue from just about anyone but Picard. Dahj and the whole “Dude!” thing was off putting. The android ninja thing seems unnecessary and dumb. As was already posted the Romulans seem to be doing just fine infiltrating Star Fleet, leading the Borg project, etc. Not sure they’re doing a good job selling that plot line.

Alison Pil is adorable even with her 6-head. She was cool explaining all the Android stuff, which didn’t come off as absurdly dumb as Overlord DVD made it seem. Still a stupid idea that could have been handled better.

Oh well, will keep stealing it and hope it goes somewhere. No expectations though so can’t really be disappointed.

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Okay, here's the thing. I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the Romulans and the Federation had a war. Seeing as neither one of them was winning the war, they both came to the negotiating table. Hence, the neutral zone was formed. A slice of planets that neither one could enter without pissing the other one off.

Why am I bothering to tell you this? Well, because it says that the Romulans are as powerful and competent as we are. I would have had *zero* problems if they had a sun explode and then a portion of them had gone to the Federation for help. It would've probably caused a civil war, seeing as what asshats most Romulans tended to be. That's a story I would've liked to see. Not this, "Oh, well, if it bleeds, it leads. Romulans just went kablooey today. Oh, well, sorry... Our own shipyard at Utopia Planetia (I think?) just went kablooey. Fuck the Romulans!" As if we're incapable of dealing with two things at a time. And as if that was the only fucking one in the entire Federation. I understand it was the biggest, but uhhhhhh, even if it was the biggest, is it really a good idea to have all your eggs in one basket, so to speak? If blowing up that one shipyard crippled the Federation, shouldn't that be a sign that maybe you should have other ship yards handling about the same level of work?

I agree with the knock against the media, I don't like how it hit the Federation though. It paints them as inept as dogshit.

I dunno. I watched the first episode and while I was curious where it went, there were waaaaay too many questions unanswered for me.

spronk said:

. I mean a big Romulan armada faces down Data and his ships in season 5, you never see anyone in the Romulan background going "WAIT THATS A FUCKING AI WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THIS SHIT BOIS"

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That episode is great. Data plays the racism card against Picard to get his first command, and then ends up disobeying orders.

I guess we all have to remember in this universe none of TNG or anything else happened because derp retcon bullshit by Kurtzman and JJ. I don't see how that'd change language patterns back to the 21st century but what do I know, I just grew up with this stuff like most of you whom are so willing to let these dudes shit on everything because lens flare, action, and Patrick Stewart. Starfleet is the Anaheim convention center lmao and am I mistaken or did they yet again use the Vasquez Rocks but this time with a trailer home in front of it? Maybe we can find some Gorn underneath that trailer.

Oh I guess it's the Prime timeline somehow but Romulus was still destroyed, that makes sense. Still dumb.

Showrunner Alex Kurtzman told The Hollywood Reporter that in the new series, "Picard's life was radically altered by the dissolution of the Romulan Empire." As viewers of the 2009 Star Trek movie will know, the Romulan Empire fell because a supernova destroyed the species' home world, Romulus. In those films, Spock's (Zachary Quinto) ship gets sucked into a black hole trying to stop this supernova from happening, sending him back in time and creating a new timeline.



"Star Trek: Picard" follows the destruction of the planet Romulus in the 2009 "Star Trek" movie. Fans should not expect Pine and Quinto to join the guest cast of Picard, which includes familiar faces from the TV show such as TNG's Data (Brent Spiner) and Riker (Jonathan Frakes) as well as Voyager's Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan).

As Kurtzman told GamesRadar: "[Picard is] in the Prime timeline, we're not in the Kelvin timeline. But the thing that was interesting about that movie is it was the one element of the film that's still in the Prime timeline, because it was the supernova, the destruction of Romulus, and Spock's jump [back in time] that created Kelvin."

In Picard, meanwhile, the fall of Romulus leaves many Romulans as galactic refugees, trying to find a home after the destruction of their planet. Kurtzman said of this in a New York Comic Con panel (per Den of Geek): "Obviously, that's where we established the destruction of the homeworld…Star Trek is a mirror.

"It holds itself up to society… We're in the middle of a massive immigration conversation, and we are very proud, I think, to say we are diving head first into that and using Trek as a way of exploring it from all points of view."

Daezuel said:

We're in the middle of a massive immigration conversation, and we are very proud, I think, to say we are diving head first into that and using Trek as a way of exploring it from all points of view."

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/doubt

Arbitrary said:

/doubt

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All correct points of view.

You are, of course, free to express dissent and your gulag assignments will be along shortly.

Goatface said:

thought the 1st show was like a B-, 2nd was C, maybe C- just for the "who knew a Romulan could be so hot"

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The use of current day expressions is really god damn annoying. "Hell yeah", "fuck", "dude", etc. is really breaking any immersion that might exist. These writers are terrible.

Gavinmad said:

All correct points of view.

You are, of course, free to express dissent and your gulag assignments will be along shortly.

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Arbitrary said:

/doubt

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Hey Picard has an Irish Romulan housekeeper bro, seems like maybe they will get all points of view in there! (She even says "cheeky fuckers!" lmao)

I don't get Kurtzmans explanation of how the destruction of Romulus still occurred but the Kelvin timeline part never happened. Maybe someone can explain that to me.

What immigrant conversation did they have? "You left the Enterprise to command the rescue armada. 10,000 warp capable ferries. A mission to relocate 900 million Romulan citizens to worlds outside the blast of the supernova." Sounds like none of them were destined for Federation space, the plan was to move them a safe distance while remaining in Romulan space. Likely would have to coordinate as many trips back and forth as possible for that many so it wouldn't make sense to elongate the travel time any more than necessary.

Then they shift the "conversation" to F synthetics and why Picard left starfleet. Which is apparently what this season is about and Kurtzman was talking out of his ass for demographics pandering.

Given the Romulans joined the war against the Dominion including showing up at a key moment once or twice plus the events of Nemesis you'd think they'd have some credit to burn on a little humanitarian aid.

Arbitrary said:

Given the Romulans joined the war against the Dominion including showing up at a key moment once or twice plus the events of Nemesis you'd think they'd have some credit to burn on a little humanitarian aid.

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After being tricked by Sisko and Starfleet command.

Gavinmad said:

After being tricked by Sisko and Starfleet command.

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Yeah, which would be an interesting little twist. The only people that know about that are Sisko, Garak and some elements of Starfleet Command. A reveal later that more aid was not given for fear that information would eventually leak (especially with Garak now leading the Tal Shiar) would make a bit of sense. A wrecked Romulan Empire is not likely to be able to do shit in reprisal.