Star Trek: Picard

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What would be the Starfleet version of Liberty Prime? I guess the Defiant? Yeah, this show would fuck that up.
 

Siliconemelons

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Just remeber ShakyJake ShakyJake - combine "SJW edgylordness" with "Anytime you use something that is not 25% different from Paramount TNG, it is a license fee $$$$"
 

Caliane

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What would be the Starfleet version of Liberty Prime? I guess the Defiant? Yeah, this show would fuck that up.
The TNG Enterprise-D Galaxy class starship itself. HUGE. many time larger then previous ships. massive tech jump. First federation ship that can stand and beat Kinglon, Romulan ships.
the Defiant is more of an assassin ship.
 

Cybsled

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Defiant was basically an armored truck with a big ass gun strapped to it. Without cloak it was still too vulnerable without support.
 

Siliconemelons

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The TNG Enterprise-D Galaxy class starship itself. HUGE. many time larger then previous ships. massive tech jump. First federation ship that can stand and beat Kinglon, Romulan ships.
the Defiant is more of an assassin ship.

Only later TNG and Movies could the D or E stand against a Romulan WarBird - those things where massive and could just take hits all day and stomp on anyone... romulan ships where the strongest traditionally.

I also thought it was funny when they had essentially 3 Klingon ships, the bird of prey, the battle cruiser and the "new" fork head looking one... on the traditional battle cruisers the front circle opening WAS the torepedo hole... in TOS it was litterally as tall as the saucer of the enterprise - thats why... in ST 6 when that thing comes to bay and pulls up point blank and charges that port up red ready to fire, its an OOHHHSSSHIIITTT moment.

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Frenzied Wombat

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In TOS episode Balance of Terror the Enterprise takes out a Romulan ship with conventional weapons. The Romulan ship is described as more advanced due to cloak and limited distance plasma weapons, but the ship is depicted as fairly fragile outside those two special abilities.
 

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The Federation also didn't allow Starfleet to develop "warships" until after the disastrous battle of Wolf 359 when a single borg cube (under the command of a certain assimilated Starfleet officer) destroyed an entire fleet by itself. This led to the creation of the first ever dedicated combat vessel in Starfleet history, the Defiant class, which itself was considered a failure until Sisko used his new influence as the Commander of DS9 to have the prototype pulled out of mothballs and put directly into service, where the design issues were gradually ironed out by Chief O'Brien and the ship went into full production.
 

Siliconemelons

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Hehe in TOS they were birds of prey.

What I think is funny is in TNG / DS9 when they just make klingong birds of prey different sizes to be different ships but dont change their models any, so they have YUGE blasters on the sides and big ol torpedo launchers - as the original model was to be a small attack ship

Let's watch as the defiant pulls more weight than 10 normal starfleet ships, even after the first borg encounter and ?during? the dominion stuff...they are run by SJWs and never learn - no wonder they need section 21 to survive




Also, while I know its worf- lets lulz @ klingong music busting in while the enterprise flys into the fight
 

Daezuel

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Sadly this Kurtzman garbage is all we'll get too while either of these garbage shows are on the air, apparently JJ's contract prohibits any other Trek from being made while these shows are still kicking.

They had Noah Hawley on board to make Star Trek 4 but apparently it was "too Trekkie" and they can't make a movie without involving Bad Robot and using the 25% difference clause. Can you imagine Noah Hawley over Alex fucking Kurtzman?