Star Wars: Battlefront, as told by Dice on Frostbite 3 (PS4?/XBone?/PC?)

spronk_sl said:

Also Ut's article link is misleading, the game is $40 this week only - gamestop cut the price for a week and amazon matched (best buy did not). Next week it'll jump back up to $60 everywhere.

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I like how the price reduction is only for the physical copy(PC).....which just has a code slip in it lol

Utnayan_sl said:

When it won't sell at $39, I highly doubt you will not see the "sale" price become the standard price.

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Did you not read the sales chart? The game is selling just fine. It's the fastest selling SW game of all time and will easily be the best selling when it's all said and done. As much as you seem to want this game to be a flop that's just not the reality.

Yea no clue why anyone who cared about the industry at all would want one of the most egregious pieces of shit EA has ever put out to fail. No clue at all.

I definitely don't want this to fail for the rather simple reason that I do want to play a good Battlefront game in the future.

Lold hard. Good feels write up. Didn't buy this and won't. Star Wars Battle Front 2 was amazing couch gaming for me though.

Palum_sl said:

Yea no clue why anyone who cared about the industry at all would want one of the most egregious pieces of shit EA has ever put out to fail. No clue at all.

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Wanting it to fail and inventing narrative to make it look like it's failing are two different things.

Utnayan_sl said:

I looked at the sales charts. Sales have completely dropped off a cliff. Price drops are around 39 on sale, and populations are already declining. EA is brewing up their viral marketing department to offset, and you now have bad press coming out where a guy admitted he was being paid to post good things about the game, and decided to smash the dvd instead rather than take the cash.

Fuck EA up its ass

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What magical sales charts do you have that the rest of the world doesn't? I'd like to see proof of these sales falling off a cliff. You also do realize its the holidays and games go on sale this time of year, right? Finally, your hate train poster boy who broke his disk is the same douche that got angry and broke his Xbox controller because of Halo 5. He's a typical manbaby gamer, and has a pattern of throwing tantrums about games, so I'm not exactly sure why his opinion matters about anything?

Again, hate the game and company all you want, but the game isn't going to fail just because you don't like it. The picture you are trying to paint isn't reality.

there were some leaks on the star wars RPG this week coming from visceral studios, jade raymond is in charge of it (she was director of assassins creed 2, watch dogs) and it sounds very story involved single player. guess we'll see whats happening, but they have a few projects in the pipeline. There is also a possibility that 1313 will get brought back, that was another single player RPG in the star wars universe.

i don't think KOTOR is making a comeback though, since SWTOR has that universe on lockdown.

i did play battlefront for an hour last night while watching a new hope, its too bad there isn't a death star level. dlc, i know still, had fun for an hour. thats about the only positive thing you can say about battlefront, its fun in little one hour chunks.

I wish it was a single player game the visuals and the animations are amazing.

I really like the frostbite engine

Finally had a chance to play this game this weekend at a friends place on an XBone. I was stoked since I'm a massive Star Wars nerd. Watched a few hours of gameplay and played about 2 hours. I would say they got the feeling right in making it feel like you are in the movies which is an amazing gift for a game. But that's it. The game is a shallow grave. I was mostly bored after 2 hours. For a multiplayer only game you would assume the most wanted maps (combined arms ones) would be aplenty but nope there are only a few.

Decided to look a bit further and other Battlefront games are planned for announcement soon. Considering this game has a DLC cost the same as a standard AAA game that only appears to have a few more modes and a few maps in it I would say this is nothing more than a glorified demo they built out and decided to charge people for. That lines up with the 2 year development time. They got a few core basic really good features down and feature locked the game and polished that turd until it shined.

The weapons have no depth as there is no weapon customization. There is no character customization other than locked down to level generic heads.

The game appears to be heading for the bin by this time next year. Disney plans to release a Star Wars movie every single year for the next few years. EA planned the Battlefront release with the movie marketing and there is no reason to suspect this approach will change. They want a COD/AC cashcow and I think that's exactly where Battlefront is headed.

This is infinitely worse then what happened with ME3 and I wouldn't recommend or purchase this game. By the time it's cheap enough to purchase I doubt too many will be playing it as the next iteration will be out trying to sucker in even more people.

TLDR: Star Wars Battlefront redefines lazy game development and proves there are millions of people out there easily taken in by pretty pictures, trailers and paid for marketing in gaming websites. Never playing it again.

Variise_sl said:

..proves there are millions of people out there easily taken in by pretty pictures, trailers and paid for marketing in gaming websites. Never playing it again.

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Boy you just described Star Citizen to a T.

Cinge_sl said:

Boy you just described Star Citizen to a T.

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Did you just compare Battlefront with virtually no features and photogrammetry with 2 years of dev time to SC that has infinitely more features in Alpha, as of today, with only a year more in dev?

Are you serious or trolling?

Utnayan_sl said:

None.

Why? Because these assholes will scapegoat to investors they launched next to fallout 4 and halo 5. Regardless of IP. Moron investors will fall for it. Seriously. After the news of battlefront getting its ass kicked and dropping to 39, shares dropped until Peter Moore announced his bullshit esport shit. Stocks rebounded off that. Seriously. Ea e sports. Are you fucking kidding me?

The developers (dice) will continue to escape blame and suck dick at the top, gamespot and SA posters will protect their jobs by deflecting linked proof of corruption and defying fcc rules stating paid promoters need to be saying they are paid, while they pretend to like shit, and the cycle continues.

What we need is a coalition of gamers to only purchase good games with solid content and we all band together to speak with one voice. And when ea or Bungie or Activision pulls their usual shit, we boycott their asses and they will be forced to do shit the right way. It's the only way anything will change.

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Well don't look at crowdfunding to solve this issue. It requires more openness with development to be successful and a lot of people can't stand watching the sausage made.

You have a large portion of players and virtually the entire "games journalism" industry dead set against it. The term scam is often used. This ensured less people try this method of funding which means less good games. I can only speak for myself but out of the half dozen crowd funded games I pledged for I received 4 complete ones and I'm happy with what I got. The most successful studios seem to go straight back to crowdfunding instead of traditional sources of income but they are few and small compared to the big studios.

That also means you are more likely to be stuck with the EAs and Activisions of the world and hoping they change course. Except they won't. They will continue to cater to the mass market casual players predominantly residing on consoles. As companies continue to predict the end of PC gaming (I think that started back in the early 90s) it continues to sell roughly as many desktops per year as the top two or three consoles ever sold in their entire history. Maybe if that mentality changed you might get companies to change course.

Here is another food for thought.

In the case of Battlefront they specifically left out a single player campaign because arguably nobody liked the ones they had in previous games and a lot of people never played them or played through them. So that was the argument for not having it. That's fine but they also left out a bunch of multiplayer features common to DICE BF games and still charged full price for it and then some. The game was maybe worth $15-30 at most

I actually hope Disney and EA signed ink to shit out a game every year for the foreseeable future to market each other's shit because the games are going to be steaming piles of shit. If they do it enough times maybe the message will get across. But it will take years and only if their other shit titles like sports games don't keep them going. Half the people where I work buy those every year religiously. It's ridiculous.

Regime_sl said:

Battlefront was actually released lol!

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Then why are you or he comparing it? Compare it when it's released.

Also that's not the insult you think it is anymore. Especially in this thread.

A released bad game is bad forever and Battlefront is a shit sandwich.