Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

heian_sl said:

Kira was her name when they announced the movie and I have no idea why they changed it. She kinda look like Keira knighley they might have been trying to avoid lawsuit or might be a surprise. Kira / Keira mean dark/black lord in Irish and mean beam of light in Sanskrit or glittering in Japanese. The name often linked dark in the west and light in the east. It give that name a east/west, bright/dark and balancing yin/yang quality.

I googled it.

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There is a 20yr old Jedi named Kira in The Old republic. Possible didn't want the repeat name. Although given throwing up EU, probably unlikely.

Randin_sl said:

Just got back from seeing this, and Christ, this was a fucking Star Wars movie. I mean, they really hit the feel of the original trilogy in a way that the prequels flew wildly wide of. If I really had to, I suppose I could find nitpicky shit to criticize, but fuck it, this was good.



Technically, the Odysseywaspart two; it's essentially a sequel to the Iliad. /pedantic

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Even more amusing, there is also another Sequel to The Illiad/Odyessy.
Aeneid. Written by Virgil in 29-19BC. Fanfic? A good 700 years after Illiad.

Of course the discussion on New Years Eve gravitated to The Force Awakens at one point. It was interesting to hear the perspective of people who were only very casually interested in the originals as well as those who are actively hostile towards Star Wars in general. Most note worthy were those people who had never been interested in sci-fi (either no genre at all or horror movie types) who are big fans of Guardians of the Galaxy and who saw and are raving about the Force Awakens. This is especially true of the <30 crowd who knew only of the originals through video releases and who were fairly jaded after the prequel trilogy. If you are 25 now, you were 9-10 when the prequels started up...

The brother part comes in because of a typo in the opening crawl. Is says something like "LEIA, searching for her brother LUKE..." The Internet is saying that because there is no comma after brother, it indicates that Leia has more than one brother. So the jump people are making is that Rey would be Luke and Leia's brother's daughter. (Which is getting into SpaceBalls territory).

I'm sticking with she's a Kenobi until episode 8. Kira-Rey Kenobi lol. Makes as much sense as Anakin having a love child away from PandaBear.

Drakain_sl said:

The brother part comes in because of a typo in the opening crawl. Is says something like "LEIA, searching for her brother LUKE..." The Internet is saying that because there is no comma after brother, it indicates that Leia has more than one brother. So the jump people are making is that Rey would be Luke and Leia's brother's daughter. (Which is getting into SpaceBalls territory).

I'm sticking with she's a Kenobi until episode 8. Kira-Rey Kenobi lol. Makes as much sense as Anakin having a love child away from PandaBear.

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ObixVentress otp.

Finally saw it, and shooting from hip on my opinion before rereading what all yall got for it.

Started out jimmy rustled on technical stuff I just couldn't give up. Xwings now have drop down big rotating blaster?ok.... Tie fighters seem standardized to have 2 pilots.... wtf. I get they needed a bro moment for those 2 but to change things up so drastically, they may as well have altered the tie design more to indicate some new model that's somehow better with a rear shooting cannon on a fighter... Just as an old purish hate them suddenly changing something like that up so much. I wasn't thrilled with the super hero movie ending with gigantic earthquake rifts that folk were able to easily walk away from. Old star wars the big ships just take a big hit and you see storms toppling everywhere. Also loved /sarcasm the "Dont ask me why I have the original lightsaber that was dropped at Bespin, a wizard did it" response. Other stuff like blowing up 2 laser turrets is the magical "oh boy we can escape" from a star destroyer? Sorry had way more guns on them than that, so happy they at least got taken down by a missile. Rollerball droid is retarded. Her in the end getting on falcon again with her dumb scrap metal stick when I doubt it would have been kept with her after she was kidnapped... Are they going to play her as the second coming of christ jedi because she goes from no hint of it, to without training mind controlling and whatever else? I especially love the I'm about to lose, but he mentioned the force and training me, so I'm going to spend 15 seconds looking like a tard, while he does nothing to kill or capture me, and by thinking warm fuzzies about the force, suddenly I'm a martial bad ass..... ok.

And darth pussy's voice? Comically bad.

I did love the extra oomph to the weapons, as absurd as it was for the falcon to be doing engine off barrel rolls and such was still entertaining. (Though was like wtf did he get in bottom instead of top gun initially, why was he ever facing "forward" to get the gun locked to.

But what was kinda killing it for me was plot. I don't mind the quirky references to the old movies, it is the "future" after all. The chess table etc. But the amount of like trying too hard to be funny stuff, especially Han using chewies gun was cringe worthy. (Because he never used it before and just started?) But mainly that is was essentially like lets repackage the original movie with the same plot line all over....WTF? They knew huge viewership, was hoping for a more original story.

Instead you have:
Start on desert planet, rough living, poor farmer/salvage kid : Check
Forested rebel base with everyone running around pointlessly. Pathetic "fleet" of a few dozen fighters? Check
Incoming death star to destroy said base: Check
Shields to be taken down so a random exposed component can be destroyed: Check (Love exact mon calamari quote of Our weapons can't get thru shield of that magnitude or whatever...)
Token someone is someone elses father: Check



I tried to be open minded, like I said a whole lot better than prequals. But just so much that doesn't make sense given end of ROTJ. Being one who read all the books up until they started getting retarded when first prequals came. (So Zahns books and others of that era. Think Rogue squadren was last decent ones before the lime green and oddball color bordered books with shitty cover art.

Sludig_sl said:

Rollerball droid is retarded.

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The design of BB-8 is genius. R2's design is retarded for a desert environment; how the fuck was he supposed to roll around sand dunes? (answer: They had to put wooden planks out of view of the camera in the OT). BB-8's rollerball design makes complete sense

I don't think the rolling ball thing would work in sand either, though. Also I always assumed pretty much most droids are built for gliding along on the shiny black marble space station and spaceship floors they do most of the films and the A/T ones are like the probe droids and just anti-grav.

Some of you guys must be real fun at parties. Hating on BB8? Are you fucking trolling or just a dark hearted human being? One of the things I have to keep reminding myself about these forums is the predominant poster is now a mid 30s male gamer with a collectively specific point of view. We and I do mean we represent in many things a narrow pov and forget there is another 80% of the population that thinks different than us.

Talk to your extended acquaintances, coworkers, even complete strangers that you have nothing in common with. They don't give a shit about most of the things we complain about. They dont let the inane bullshit nitpicking get in the way of their goddamn entertainment. We hardly represent the majority views on many things.

Palum_sl said:

I don't think the rolling ball thing would work in sand either, though.

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Except it did work in sand, seeing as how it was a real prop moving through real sand.

They honestly could have cut her entire appearance except the part where she gets rolled by a septuagenarian and a shag rug to turn off the shield.

Zignor 3_sl said:

Except it did work in sand, seeing as how it was a real prop moving through real sand.

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Prepared surfaces for the film, though.

Don't make me go buy the sphereo to prove you wrong on youtube, bro!

Also, I got the NDGT on my side:

Any mode of locomotion that prevents you from sinking into the sand works. R2D2 obviously would work as well as a regular baby stroller in the desert.

Palum_sl said:

Prepared surfaces for the film, though.

Don't make me go buy the sphereo to prove you wrong on youtube, bro!

Also, I got the NDGT on my side:

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skidded? a smooth heavy ball would sink and spin in place, with no traction.
A beachball would deform, so if BB-8s ball were air, that would work.

Caliane_sl said:

skidded? a smooth heavy ball would sink and spin in place, with no traction.
A beachball would deform, so if BB-8s ball were air, that would work.

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Are you all literally arguing about the friction and density ratio of space metals?

It's the same fucking movie as episode 4. THE SAME FUCKING MOVIE. Almost every scene is a repeat of an episode 4 scene. This is a remake, not a new movie.

Except the bad guy is a joke compared to Darth Vader. Which literally is a line in this movie, uttered by Lukette.

Kaige_sl said:

hah, didn't know Gwendoline Christie was Captain Phasma (the silver Stormtrooper chick). I was wondering why she seemed so damn familiar.

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did she have a no helmet scene I slept through?