Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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Muurloen

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Wonder if Disney used stock footage of Ego, or the tears from this board, to build the salt planet.
 
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I have not watched The Clone Wars or Rebels but I have read probably 150 Star Wars books and probably that many individual comics in the universe.

I have owned an imperial royal guard helmet and a full set of sand trooper armor.

Am I a true fan?

unless you have written fan fic, you are not
 
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Royal

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A recounting of jedi fuck ups.

Yes any reasonable viewer would come away from the prequels thinking the jedi were at least partially culpable in their own demise. We don't need to be told that. But seeing that admission from a figure like Yoda, the old dogmatist who was calling the shots when it all came tumbling down, is a part of getting on board with the idea of seeing the jedi order restored. Otherwise it's just as Luke said and the jedi aren't worth bringing back. Especially when Yoda and Ben being dead doesn't mean they can't be around to play a part in that restoration. It helps to rub some of the blemishes off of their agency as mentors by having them voice an understanding of the errors of the old ways that helped bring them down.
 

Ossoi

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Pretty sure Miguex is talking about how you're just now watching the Clone Wars cartoon when it came out 9 years and was cancelled 3.5 years ago.

Damnit.
or brag about how they just now are getting to a multi year, overall highly regarded animated series that ended 5 years ago.

Unless this show makes some valuable contribution to prequel lore/plot e.g. Answering questions, filling in the blanks, then it's hardly a requirement
 

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The main problem I have now is that e7 & 8 make the prequels look good in comparison. At least they tried to tell a relatively consistent story in the prequels, and answer some important questions, even if they did it badly. The new films? I have no fucking idea what the story is supposed to be!? It's just a bunch of people haphazardly doing random shit and failing miserably at it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Lanx

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Also, why Yoda force ghost his way in, and not Ewen McGregor, cuz you know he'd be like. " This is the reject that has my namesake??? Holy shit not only did my bff turn mega evil, now the kid named after my alias, is also a youngling killing psycho, you Skywalker's are not worth it"!!!

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Let's not forget patricide and one tie fighter too late for matricide , and now uncle-cide. This guy is better at hunting force sensitive than bobba Fett jr jr.
 
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Royal

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They more than likely told Ewan "Let the puppet have it's moment. You'll be getting your own movie soon."
 
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They more than likely told Ewan "Let the puppet have it's moment. You'll be getting your own movie soon."

And if I were Ewan at this point, I'd be slowly backing away while smiling and nodding, noping the fuck out.
 
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The main problem I have now is that e7 & 8 make the prequels look good in comparison. At least they tried to tell a relatively consistent story in the prequels, and answer some important questions, even if they did it badly. The new films? I have no fucking idea what the story is supposed to be!? It's just a bunch of people haphazardly doing random shit and failing miserably at it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe most importantly, the prequels told an original story, not a retread of the OT. They also told a story that we all know the ending to, which is a difficult thing to do. Disney had a blank slate to tell whatever story they wanted to and they managed to fuck it up this badly, it's pretty remarkable.
 
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Lanx

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"I told you, I'm not gonna let you warp the boy like you did his father. You brought him to me to protect, and that's what I'm doing. Protecting him from you."
"I'm not asking to train the boy. You've made yourself quite clear on that matter. But Luke has potential to be something…truly remarkable. Just as his father was, before he—"
"Before you got him killed! Haven't you murdered enough Skywalkers already, Kenobi?"
―Lars and Obi-Wan Kenobi

seems good ol uncle owen had the best foresight, these Jedi fucks named Ben just killing skywalkers.

Also whats with this uncle owen shit? as far as i know this uncle owen raised Luke since he was 3hours old, and Luke still shits on him and calls him "uncle"

wipeout all the ingrateful skywalkers, all of em.
 

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My six year old daughter just saw it, said it was "OK".

For reference, her favourite scenes in Star Wars are Anakin and (that nasty) Obi-Wan's fight at the end of RotS, and the Vader vs Luke scene in RotJ ending with the emporer being tossed. Her favourite character is Vader, and she thinks it is crap that "a little bit of lightning killed him when lots of lightning didn't kill Luke".

Her conclusion was that it didn't have a scene as memorable as those two or any characters as good as Vader.

She didn't understand why Luke tried to kill Ben or why he went into hiding.

She likes Rey but didn't understand why she didn't join Kylo because (and I quote) "then she could save all her friends and make Kylo do whatever she wanted".


I am both proud and absolutely terrified by all of her opinions.
 
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The Obi-Wan vs Anakin fight came so close to perfection

This fight was fucking terrible. "Hey lets go for a 5 mile walk and have a lightsaber fight along the way". The parts on the little floaty things over the lava were particularly dumb.
 
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Caliane

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I got around to this finally. Avoided pretty much all spoilers. only caught a few, from surface reading. like mary poppins leia.

I expected to hate it, from the love it or hate it reviews I was seeing.
First viewing. I didn't. For the most part I liked it, pretty well. There were definitely flaws however. Some logical flaws, which I mostly just shrugged at. dumb shit. but didnt kill the movie for me. The tonal flaws were worse imho.

The flaws, that bothered me..
Physics in starwars has always been shitty. Travel time was a huge flaw in TFA and rogue 1, negating any drama, or logic for characters and entire fleets to teleport across the galaxy... This one was better at that.. however...
Bombers in SPACE, use gravity to DROP bombs? wtf. bombers have existed in starwars for some time, why this idiotic change?
Rebel ships are faster then Order.. but can't lose them.. what? AND, they run out of fuel and slow down...? again, physics in space..

Logical and tonal problem here. The sequence sets up the Rebel fleet in a chase.. ok great... while small ships just come and go? and travel to other planets? the fuck? you can't have this dire chase, and just have people leaving the fleet at any time. That entire chase sequence falls apart at that shit. They all could have just split up. in fact.. why DIDN'T the fleet split up? each ship light speed off in a different direction?
The next problem skip to the finale a bit. The lightspeed crash. Its one of those things... Why wasn't this done before? you introduce this tactic now. there are a hundred times in previous movies, in THIS Movie, that would have solved many problems.. Light speed a capital ship into the deathstar, the Executor, the first order base... again, in this fucking movie, TWO ships are lost when they ran out of fuel, with full accompaniments of crew... no evac of those ships... And.. just gave up. how as "turn the ship into a fucking super missile" not an option previously? its one of those things you should never bring up, because its creates these problems. Its too easy of a tactical solution, so the answer is "deflector shields protect from that"

There was tonal problems with that as well. Slow motion. silent/black and white. fast action/slow motion with rey's visions. This movie introduced many visual tricks, and cinematography not typical to starwars. And tonally within the movie, all over the place.
Story had the same problem. you can't go from the cartoonish prequelesque CGI of Finn and rose riding the horsedogs, riding the AT-ST, etc. then, have scenes with any emotional weight, like they were trying there. Poe trolling hux fits in here. while I think the trolling itself was fine. it was a joke that went on too long. Esp with Hux being shit on the rest of the movie as well.

The new order needs to do something truly vicious to be taken seriously. (both personally, and on a galactic level. Huxley should outright murder at least one main character in the next movie. like Finn, Poe, or even Rey. Reverse the Han/vader scene. Rey gets brought in and meets Huxley face to face. and he immediate pulls out his blaster and shoots her in the face. no one liners, just shoots. ) Leadership is intentionally kindof incompetent. It will be pretty awesome if they suddenly get their shit together. It was a real mistake to not have them do something in this movie.
That is part of the problem as well. This movie ends with "we are the spark of a new rebellion". What spark? what happened in this movie to spark a new rebellion? nothing. you just got your asses killed. theres 24 Rebels left in their entirety. how are YOU starting a new rebellion? passing the torch at all? and with what message?
TFA did end with a reason for rebellion. The first order nuked the core worlds(not actually core worlds, but the 5 which held the senate for the new republic.) THAT would have been a reason for unrest, and new Rebel worlds. It was never mentioned.

I think there were a few other things, but I forgot them already.
now, I'll go back and read what else was awful in this thread and from internet reveiwers. haha.
 
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What a turd.

Walked out during casino scene and got a refund.

Never again.
 
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