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A notable stat is the comparison of this movie versus The Force Awakens over their first 35 days...
The Last Jedi
35-Day Total:
$597,718,476
The Force Awakens
35-Day Total:
$865,032,346
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
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A notable stat is the comparison of this movie versus The Force Awakens over their first 35 days...
The Last Jedi
35-Day Total:
$597,718,476
The Force Awakens
35-Day Total:
$865,032,346
Royal
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Merrith
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I'm not sure. Similar numbers, released at totally different times of the year. Nothing to see here.
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Royal
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It was a serious question. I'm genuinely curious as to what he was seeing to make that a standout stat. TLJ will end up dropping about 35% from TFA globally, but at that point it's above that trend line in the domestic number.
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35% is mildly significant. Not like it was ever going to lose money overall, it has Star Wars in the name. But it's a significant drop.
Royal
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Yes it is. But it seemed like he was suggesting a particular significance to that number.
But overall a 35% decline from the trilogy opener is right in line with the drops of both ESB and AOTC from the first movies in those trilogies. Depending on how you define ANH's original theatrical run. It's not very straightforward once you dig down into the nitty gritty details of it. It's bizarro world compared to how movies are released today. But in both trilogies the numbers are similiar with ESB's drop a little lower and ATOC's slightly higher. The one that a majority of people think highly of and the one that many have a pretty low opinion of. So there is a dynamic at work there that is divorced from how well or poorly audiences liked the individual movies. That's not to say that TLJ was a rudderless ship floating on that current but I don't think a lot of people would have believed you if you told them beforehand it would be head and shoulders above ESB. Yet people seem think it was supposed to retain a larger chunk of it's predecessor's audience than ESB managed to for some reason.
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Royal
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And that's more notable than the $700M difference in world gross how exactly?
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It's doing well enough the smaller total isn't going to worry Disney too much. It's still top 10 worldwide biggest grosses.
Also, you don't have to look farther than this thread to see examples of nerds that hated the movie who still watched it in the theater three times.
Also, you don't have to look farther than this thread to see examples of nerds that hated the movie who still watched it in the theater three times.
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Royal
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On the whole it isn't, I'd agree. But if you're limiting it to how well the sequels to massive cultural phenomenon films perform relative to their predecessors it works well enough. But even there I'd say the prequel trilogy is a more relevant comparison because in that case it was also the return of the franchise after a period of long absence that generated a huge amount of buzz before the release, just as TFA did.
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lol you guys remember when Rey went to the Jedi master and he didnt teach her shit?
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These could follow a similar suit to the prequels where in terms of box office the first does really well, the 2nd is a 'disappointment' and the third is somewhere in between. But, I think there's a difference between these and the prequels in that we all knew what the prequels were going to culminate with and it was worth getting excited about. Yeah, Phantom Menace and Clones were kind of shit, but despite that, there was excitement over how it all came together. Basically, we knew there was going to be a payoff and it was worth spending money to see that payoff.
With these, what are they aiming towards? We sort of had an idea with TFA but TLJ fucked all that out the window. What is there worth getting excited about? Over the new 2 years I'm sure promotional material will come out to answer some of that, but as it stands now, ehhhhhh
Will that have any effect on the numbers when 9 comes out? I think that's the ultimate gauge in determining if the drop in numbers from TLJ mean anything or not.
Odds are the numbers will be extreme and it will be massively profitable, but God, it's hard to not look at TLJ as a movie and not think of it as anything but a fucking catastrophe
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Well domestically the increase from ESB to RTJ was fairly small. AOTC to ROTS was higher but I think something that was feeding that was the belief at the time that it was going to be the last Star Wars movie, period. That's one thing IX will not have helping it along. Not only will it not be the last but it will have had 4 movies within the franchise to have come out just a few years before it. It'll be in uncharted territory on that front. I think there's a pretty good chance it'll be below TLJ especially if Solo ends doing badly as well.
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I've about come to the conclusion that Rian Johnson wrote this movie in one afternoon on the back of a used napkin. What a complete cluster fuck. This guy should never be allowed to touch another Star Wars movie.
Rian Johnson Addresses the Absence of The Knights of Ren in The Last Jedi
Johnson’s answer to the conspicuous absence of Kylo Ren’s followers is actually a pretty simple one. Apparently, he felt that the movie was just already too crowded to shoe-horn them in…
He also addressed the complications of having them be Snoke’s guards, even though he definitely considered it as an option in the beginning…
Rian Johnson Addresses the Absence of The Knights of Ren in The Last Jedi
Johnson’s answer to the conspicuous absence of Kylo Ren’s followers is actually a pretty simple one. Apparently, he felt that the movie was just already too crowded to shoe-horn them in…
“We have a very full movie already there literally was just not room for another element…”
He also addressed the complications of having them be Snoke’s guards, even though he definitely considered it as an option in the beginning…
“I guess I could’ve used them in place of the Praetorian guards but then it would feel like wasting them because all those guards had to die. And if Kylo had some kind of connection to them it would’ve added a complication that wouldn’t have helped the scene… truth is I just didn’t see a place for them in the movie.”
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Big Phoenix
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A full movie of what? Retards bumbling about in a shitty casino?
I just dont get how people are so fucking bad at the fundamentals get work. Writing is about the cheapest aspect of the movie making process and the easiest to do. Yet the story was pants of head fucking retarded in every single aspect.
Honestly, how does anyone like this franchise after 3 garbage fucking movies? TLJ is prequals level bad but everyone eats that shit up.
I just dont get how people are so fucking bad at the fundamentals get work. Writing is about the cheapest aspect of the movie making process and the easiest to do. Yet the story was pants of head fucking retarded in every single aspect.
Honestly, how does anyone like this franchise after 3 garbage fucking movies? TLJ is prequals level bad but everyone eats that shit up.
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Seriously. "Hey, should I expand on a storyline sketched out in the previous film? Nah, I really want to have Finn ride around on a horse creature for 25 minutes"
Another thing that bothered me about that whole section (apart from the alien with the southern accent...) was the design of the security guards. They looked like the cheesy 1970s idea of SciFi before the original Star Wars came along and said "No, this is how you do it"
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