StarCraft 2

Tenks

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OSL switching to HOTS in April. So it looks like WoL is getting dropped like a hot potato when HOTS is released.
 

Fight

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As it should be... and it is good to hear. HOTS isn't balanced or anywhere near perfect, but it is a lot less stale than WoL. I can't even watch WoL games anymore, they are so boring.
 

Tenks

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New patch had a bunch of new features. Now if you click on the "performance" tab it will let you know if you did better than your personal best for supply efficiency, APM, avg unspent etc etc. Although I think watch with others will be huge. Like if Zap and I are playing and like usual I go 0-5 against him we can hop into the same replay and he can tell me what I'm doing wrong or do something differently here.
 

Tenks

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GGs today Zap we should do it again soon. I am going to dig through the replays and figure out why I cannot seem to beat you in a straight up 1Rax FE bio game.

Anyone else playing HOTS? From a Terran POV it is so much better. By that I mean I don't want to punch my dick off when I roll a TvZ (ie: 90% of WoL games)
 

Sidian

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Still don't have beta and I also haven't pre-ordered yet (which would give me beta as well). Unfortunately even if I had Beta I don't know how much I'd play. Probably just end up waiting til it gets released then pick it up a bit more. Plus, you wouldn't want to get crushed by another Protoss player, so /shrug.
 

Zaphid

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Well, I went like 3-2 vs Tenks with one proxy stargate thrown in because I got pissed. If you get behind and you aren't the superior multitasker the game certainly makes you work for your win, it feels almost a bit like PvZ. You really can't afford for any drop to do any damage, maybe only a few probes, unless you sit on 3+ bases. I also had to change my immortal hotkey after the game you went mech because I was constantly hitting U instead of I. I still think medivac speed is bullshit, at least straight out of the gate, because vs anyone with decent micro you really can't punish the drops, but the phoenix opening seems to work just fine. I also need to find more uses for mothership core, but my colossus timings are really razor thin is it is. Oracles sound really cool and they can clean out a base really fast, but you can't even use them so snipe drops (too slow) or in combat (less range and even more fragile). They are a bit better in pvp because stalkers suck so much, but that's it.

The beta is definitely worth it, sure you will probably get more balanced product at release, but playing with batshit crazy units is part of the fun (void rays, wtf are they thinking ? ...)
 

Tenks

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I thought it was pretty retarded Photon Overcharge could hit my tanks but my tanks couldn't hit the Nexus -_-
 

Zaphid

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Both have 13 range right ? I guess it could be because to hit the nexus you have to be able to target the middle of the unit, but the range of the weapon is calculated from the edge of the unit's circle ?
 

Tenks

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Yeah they have the same range but something funky must be going on with the target hitbox. I thought as long as the tank's circle overlapped any of the building it could hit it. I just know that fucker killed like 3 of my tanks and I just kept scanning the nexus going "YOU HAVE VISION ASSHOLE." I still feel the range on the skill is stupidly long.

I still feel mech is pretty gimmicky. The entire time I was praying you weren't making an air transition. I also completely forgot Thors can switch modes to do better damage to a single armored unit like VRs. I still think my initial push would have still been swatted away but I may try re-doing that battle and seeing how it would go with that thrown in. Though I think I expanded behind that attack so I was still decently ahead I felt with the opener. I also didn't back myself into a mech corner I could have easily transitioned into bio. I also feel like Hellbats will get nerf sticked pretty soon. Not so much in TvP (outside of the retarded 1base 4bat drop) but in TvZ they just chew through infinite numbers of lings.
 

Zaphid

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That game on Akilon I got countered pretty hard, I had 4 phoenixes when you moved out so I was scrambling to get at least the single void ray with some gateway units and I had to cancel almost finished natural. If you did second wave with more SCVs I would die right there. The double expand kind of let me come back, but I would have to control the battles better and once I didn't see you coming for my 4th, it was lights out because I couldn't break the high ground. I made a lot of mistakes and my macro was all over the place.
 

Tenks

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We may have to play that style again. There were quite a few things I wanted to do differently as well. I think I was on 4 bases until I researched stim for my marines even though they were in charge of depleting Immo shields. I also never went double armory which was stupid especially with hellbats being my meat shield.
 

Zaphid

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Yeah, so far I'm running mostly into bio of all kinds and sizes, weird how many times I have lost to stim timings. Usually because he moves out and I stop paying attention to my phoenixes and suicide them. Then he is free to reinforce and hit just before my colossus comes out.
 

Zaphid

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MVP went 1-4, there's going to be major butthurt. Bisu has been non-factor in SC2 so far.