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Having played both DD and OMD 1/2 pretty excessively, I think they're hard to compare. They're both tower defense games, but DD has more of an emphasis on the RPG elements with getting loot and building your characters, whereas OMD has more emphasis on trap strategy and combat. They each have unique approaches to tower defense, both of which I found to be really enjoyable.

Though, I will say you will get more bang for your buck with DD. The game has a ton more content (particularly if you get the DLC pack) and a lot more replayability due to the loot treadmill and character advancement. I've played through every level in both OMDs and gotten 5 skulls on just about every level on every difficulty, but I've found once you figure out how to master a level, there isn't much reason to replay them. Even in OMD2, I never really felt pressed to earn more skulls since I could just respec to what I needed for a particular level whenever I wanted.

Amzin_sl said:

DD looks like it has more depth, but that depth is deceptively shallow. Since you're playing one class primarily, you use the same towers the same way nearly every level.

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That tends to be where the depth in DD comes in, since you can switch characters between rounds. Once you get higher and do harder difficulties, it becomes essential to have more than one character's towers out. On the harder tasks and Nightmare difficulty (and possibly even Insane), it is nearly impossible to beat a level with just one character's towers. Later in the game, the progression becomes more about having a balanced set of heroes for both towers and combat.

Amzin_sl said:

DD looks like it has more depth, but that depth is deceptively shallow. Since you're playing one class primarily, you use the same towers the same way nearly every level. With OMD, you almost HAVE to swap traps around from one level to the next (less so OMD1, definitely in OMD2).

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I am not sure if you realized, but you can lay traps with any of your characters during the build phase and then play with a different one ;p Using the same tower setup every level is also outrageously wrong, but fair enough if you only played lower difficulties/levels.

Regardless, don't get me wrong, I think OMD was a great game, and OMD2 probably was as well if you had good friends to multiplayer with, my comment was more to the type of game it was - OMD is pretty much play and done, DD is levelling and loot farming.

Anyone know why there are only 2 choices for the next Community Choice sale? Did something get pulled during voting?

I totally forgot about Van hell sing that's a definite buy for me. I bought it for 10 bucks not gonna wait for flash sale.

Beef Supreme_sl said:

Chivalry is beast.

Every game with melee combat needs to take a look at what Torn Banner is doing and see how they can catch up.

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Yup, this game is great. The speed of the combat and the fun I was having definitely reminded me of playing Quake way back in the day. The tutorial could be hella better, but theres just something so satisfying about playing it.

DMK_sl said:

What would you say the best TD game is?

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Defense Grid is the best Tower Defense game, although it lacks any sort of multiplayer.

Big Phoenix_sl said:

Sleeping Dogs for $5.50 over on Amazon which activates on steam.

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Buy that shit. It hurts me knowing there probably won' be a sequel with Hard Boiled style gunplay, sliding down bannisters and shit

McCheese_sl said:

Defense Grid is the best Tower Defense game, although it lacks any sort of multiplayer.

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Defense Grid is very good, I likehttp://store.steampowered.com/app/218410/Defenders quest better though, way more flexibility but I am also I sucker for skill trees.

OMD and DD both have similar combat and TD mechanics. OMD is a condensed kind of fun. The story is entertaining, the character is somewhat funny, and the level designs are great. DD is great fun too in a grindy kind of way. Grind XP, grind gear, re-do levels on multiple difficulties to climb the XP and gear ladder. Like Vvoid said it feels a lot like an MMO grind. That's why people have much more time played in DD I think. I still think OMD is more fun per minute than DD - but it won't last you as long.

Hatorade_sl said:

Defense Grid is very good, I likehttp://store.steampowered.com/app/218410/Defenders quest better though, way more flexibility but I am also I sucker for skill trees.

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That game looks pretty awesome Hatorade. I might check it out. Are there any games like that or Defense Grid that have multiplayer? I recall playing some funny custom WC3 mods that were multiplayer TD games.

Rabkorik_sl said:

That game looks pretty awesome Hatorade. I might check it out. Are there any games like that or Defense Grid that have multiplayer? I recall playing some funny custom WC3 mods that were multiplayer TD games.

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Starcraft custom games would be your best bet.

This one does look promising but not out yethttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=111599099

Vvoid_sl said:

Defense Grid would be my pick for best TD game too (without having played this one). The vast number of levels, challenge modes, and overall polish (and some of the dialogue/humor, particularly with the GLADOS missions) just make it tough for any other game to compare.

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Defender's Quest is right up there with Defense Grid. Definite buy if you liked Defense Grid.

Yea I think Defender's Quest actually replaced Defense Grid as my favorite TD game. OMD2 is still my favorite MP TD game though, barring the WC3 TDs (and SC2, because I never got it).

Hatorade_sl said:

Disagree! I really don't like the tedium that is shooter side on OMD, more traps the better.

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Uh, I guess I said it poorly then, because that's exactly what I was trying to convey. The shooting was a nice addition to the game, but it should have relied more on traps. I think Orcs 1 did that better than Orcs 2.

Is it just me or is the Steam summer sale pretty lackluster this year? Now I have over 100 games, and I may be a little picky about what I spend my money on, but today's offerings are just more of the same. It feels like Valve is more interested in making sure there are games with trading card functionality than a variety of good shit. How many fucking times do they need to put Deus Ex: HR on sale for? GTAIV? Whoopty fucking doo.

Looks like a good time to get War of the Roses, cheapest I have seen it. It has some points that are better than Chivarly, like mounted combat and archers being more useful in a support role.

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Does Dark Souls still need GFWL to play?

Hatorade_sl said:

Looks like a good time to get War of the Roses, cheapest I have seen it. It has some points that are better than Chivarly, like mounted combat and archers being more useful in a support role.

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There are aspects to War of the Roses are really nice: Graphics, mounted combat, custom classes, appearance options.

There are aspects to War of the Roses which are not really nice: combat.

The combat is a lot slower in comparison to Chivalry and with the gui and charged swings, it just feels wrong. I feel like the two of them need to have a baby together. Chivalry with mounted combat, custom classes and buku appearance options.

Chivalry really is the better game.