Stellaris

Funkor · Dec 7, 2018

I'm waiting for a big patch before I even try touching this. AI still not that great at the new mechanics (sitting on tons of resources), all of the robot DLC empires got nerfed out the ass, and the lauded late game lag fixes may have ended up lagging the game worse all the time now.

sadris · Dec 7, 2018

I have never played without mods. Holy shit the default traditions suck ass. Pick up Expansion and uh... yeah everything else sucks.

Ridas · Dec 7, 2018

Getting more used to the planet management and now that I looked at the information provided (my eyes hurt), I like some of the new systems. No idea how they play out in mid and late game though.

Ridas · Dec 7, 2018

UI is still a mess though. Some information popups just fill your screen and you get eye cancer because you cant sort or filter. and fuck that left bar. I want the old top bar back.

Dioblaire · Dec 7, 2018

Fired up and started an Earth based run as a Megacorp... Got screwed on placement. The yellow arrow points out the Enigmatic Station, or whatever it's called. No more expansion for me!

General Antony · Dec 8, 2018

The new systems and mechanics feel like a lot healthier direction for the long term future of the game.

khorum · Dec 14, 2018

I haven't even started a megacorp game yet but it sounds like the response has been pretty good. And the negative reactions haven't been as bad as when Apocalypse dropped massive hyperlane-only changes.

sadris · Dec 14, 2018

Megacorp ruined the game. There is actually now MORE micromanagement than before.

khorum · Dec 14, 2018

LOL I didn't mind the micromanagement of the tile system at all. I was arguing for it a couple days before Megacorp came out.

I figured there would be A TON more things to consider since Le Guin was supposed to shove an entire economic model on top of an already-sprawling game. I'll give it a shot when I get home.

Mountain Biker · Dec 14, 2018

I really like all the new buildings and mechanics but I find that I spend a lot more time paused while I make decisions on what building to build. I guess it's not any worse than how it was before, just more decision making. I do think the micromanagement is still about the same amount as before but I do feel more "reward" from the new system. Overall I do like the changes.

Zajeer · Dec 15, 2018

sadris said:
Megacorp ruined the game. There is actually now MORE micromanagement than before.

IMHO, more micromanagement isn't always a bad thing depending on 1) Does it feel rewarding and the do the decisions made feel impactful and 2) Does all the micromanagement overall feel overwhelming/too much. Personally, I feel like this patch handled #1 really well - every decision feels like it can either be a positive or negative impact to what your strategy is, and for #2, I don't personally feel overwhelmed yet. But that's just me

Aaron · Dec 15, 2018

Bought this, played it, and ended up uninstalling Stellaris, EU4 and CK2. I love Paradox and the *concept* behind their games but their endless dev cycle ends up with their games becoming a huge mess. I've said it before but they need to limit their games to a few expansions before starting afresh. Shit is too confusing and convoluted now.

Mountain Biker · Dec 15, 2018

You should have the option to play on an older version if you don't like the updates.

I agree that they do eventually end up with way too many mechanics in their games. That's why I don't buy many expansions, just the "best" ones. That way you get the good stuff without worrying about all the unnecessary fluff.

Ridas · Dec 15, 2018

You can switch back to older versions.

Pyratec · Dec 16, 2018

I am really enjoying the new stuff. Hadn't played in over a year as well so I don't agree that it's too confusing and convoluted. Took a couple starts to figure out the mechanics but now that I have I am finding it a big improvement over the previous iterations. I like the planet system a ton more now, agreed there is some degree of micromanagement but keeping your economy humming with careful planning of buildings and districts I find a lot more interesting and engaging than just trying to maximize adjaceny bonuses.

The alloys and consumer goods add a new dimension to the economy that was lacking before and the new market system letting you run a deficiency in one resource and sell others to make up for it is great too.

I will however take exception with the performance of the game. Once you hit early mid game the game slows noticeably when you turn it up to the faster speeds. Stuttering/hitching while panning the camera around, things like that. It's not unplayable, but for sure could use some work.

Funkor · Dec 17, 2018

Pyratec said:
I will however take exception with the performance of the game. Once you hit early mid game the game slows noticeably when you turn it up to the faster speeds. Stuttering/hitching while panning the camera around, things like that. It's not unplayable, but for sure could use some work.

Part of performance issues are coming from trade route calculations routing through wormholes or something like that. The beta branch has some fixes that alleviate a bit of it.

I'm still waiting for a major patch (or 2?) before even trying it. Ship upgrading is broken as hell with it taking so long and costing so much you are better off just building new ships. Market can be exploited for infinite energy/resources (how did they not find this in testing?). Machine Empires took a huge nerf that I hope they roll back a bit because they're just salty one of the folks in the dev clash played an ME and exploited a building to basically become as strong as an endgame crisis.

khorum · Dec 21, 2018

Beta patch out today supposedly improves on that. My ONI colony finally failed so I was able to start a new megacorp and yeah that stutter that kicks in midgame is just horrible. I have no idea how that got past QA.

Still quite enjoy the game though it seems the criminal heritage megacorp is easily undertuned since half gestalt empires and fanatic purifiers are immune to their shit and all the others routinely close down my drug labs after a few years.

Sludig · Dec 26, 2018

Is their tutorial updated for major changes? I had done most of tutorial ages ago then kinda petered out. Was ready to maybe give the game a fresh go.

khorum · Dec 26, 2018

The splash screen says to check out the updated tutorials so yeah, prolly.

It might be particularly helpful for the planetary management screen too. I had to mope around for a few minutes before I found out how to terraform planets with the new UI. It's the tiny planet button on the bottom left, next to the button that shows the planetary features.... which is ANOTHER useful button that should be more prominent since those planetary features can have profound consequences early in the game.

Also burning through the endgame for my latest beta patch 2.23 playthrough, the trade-related slowdowns are much improved but it's still perceptibly bad at the endgame. It's improved on my laptop but it's still noticeable on my gaming PC.

Sludig · Dec 26, 2018

Know any fix for a bunch of text in like tutorial windows being cut off in the top border of the box? Like its scrolled down too far when there's no scrolling room.

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