The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

New CBOAT:CBOAT: ESRAM handicap for now, but will get better - NeoGAF

yaes. Ripend tools helalp. Dvoper familiarty 2. same thihg ocuredwithn ps3cel last tme rou^nd.

@@#ESRMA is handicap prob for now but workarohd wil cume.

Hdwaarwe powr is alwysa behnd tho. never chagns,ing. wo cpomlet HW upate. 900-720p wil be norm. gamwes wil be goud !!thoug and that hwath mat ers. just struggle mre to wok on xon.

I hgu you friend flesh itw alget bettr I promise

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Yes. Ripened tools help. Developer familiarity, too. Same thing occurred with PS3 and Cell last time around.

ESRAM is a handicap for now but a workaround will come.

Hardware power is always behind though. Never changing without a complete hardware update. 900-720p will be the norm. The games will be good though, and that's what matters. They'll just struggle more to work on the Xbox One.

I hug you friend Flash. It will get better, I promise.

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Basically just common sense. People are always going to have to work around the hardware limitations and it will always be more work to optimize on the Xbone. Games on average will pretty much always be a lower resolution or won't look quite as good, but games being good is what matters the most.

I just hope that Microsoft pulls its head out of its ass with the Pricing and Kinect pack-in and throws its money and weight into building up their first party studios and makes some games that make the system worth buying like the first couple years of the X360 (since there's no way I will be playing multiplatform games on an Xbone). Same goes for Nintendo, I really hope they put some real muscle behind first party Nintendo console games again and make the WiiU worth it. I would *always* rather see 3 healthy competitors than one mega-giant.

This generation is off to a rocky start with the WiiU. Let's hope Sony forces the competition to put their efforts into making video games, because games are what matter the most. If you build them, people will come.

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guess I'm behind the times, why does that guy type like a faggot and/or bad?

My assumption is that it is to avoid being identified through writing habits such as turn of phrases or typos. A bit paranoiac, but if the guy is a Microsoft employee his leaks would be cause for termination with a side dish of getting sued, so paranoia is in order.

Does anyone still really buy this rumor? I can't tell if Sean is trying to convince himself or really believes an anonymous leak over 3 pretty universally respected developers that there is no practical difference between the 2 consoles. I know when I first heard about this I was thinking wtf, but doesn't pretty cursory research set most people's minds at ease? Lets just say that its true, 720-900P is the best that xbone can do, despite NBA2k14, cod ghost, and other titles saying they are 1080p across platforms.

The one, that I know of, confirmed 900p game, is Ryse, and say what you will about the gameplay, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the visuals. The game looks great. The differences between 720 and 1080 are negligible, and really only noticeable in side by side comparisons using magnification. Take a look at when Nvidia was hyping 4K,hereis the image they used. Keep in mind that's nearly 4 times better. Why didn't they just have a 4K screenshot? Because vast swaths of people would be scratching their heads what the big deal is. Clearly there is a difference between 4k and HD just as there is in 720-1080p, but even in that jump, its not some kind of mind blowing experience.

So basically, if you're the kind of person who thinks 720p looks like ass on anything larger than a 40" screen, and aren't sitting closer than 10 feet away from your display, you shouldn't be mad about whether or not the xbone is being developed at 720p or 1080p, you should be mad that your mutant super power isn't invisibility or regeneration.

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Why didn't they just have a 4K screenshot?

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How do you propose to show a 4k screenshot on a HD screen without it being a detail?

You clearly don't understand anything that was said, Veil - no one has ever said that 900p is the best that the Xbone can do. 720p-900p will be the "average" due to various issues with the system. CoD Ghosts is alsonotconfirmed to be 1080p, it's been very heavily hinted at that it will be 720p on the Xbone.

The systems are not the same and you are an idiot if you cannot tell the significant differences between them when looking at the specs. CBOAT is also aprovenreliable insider.

It sounds like you're the one trying to convince yourself of something.

No, I understand what's being said, and who is saying it. Why would you take the word of an anonymous voice on the internet, who while being right about reveals during E3, is still some anonymous dude on the internet. Why don't you take what John carmack, or the dude who developed resident evil games, you know, people who are not hiding behind the shroud of anonymity, as valid. They say while there are technical differences, they don't make a difference in the final product. Designers make good games, not hardware specs. I've clearly illustrated that the differences in resolutionIFthey are even there, are not significant.

Which RE guy we talking about, there's been a few - the most recent of which isn't very seasoned. And regardless with DR3 they're clearly in bed with MS at Capcom since their Kinect effects are clearly just toy level not mandating exclusivity.

Not to mentioning comparing id, who do obscene optimization compared to the rest of the industry... If you think the average dev is goingto get ooptimization out of something like Carmack does, I've got a bridge to sell you.

PS Cboat has years of history... This is not his first account he's used there...

Another dev said the xbone is half as powerful as ps4.

And lol at the notion there isn't a large difference between 1080 and 720.

720p upscaled for a 1080p monitor, and native 1080p. Fucking console peasants all must be blind or something if this is "not significant".

Boards will probably downsize images, go to imgur source to even more glorious "not significant" difference.

it is going to be this gen similar to LAST gen's ps3

at first a lot of ps3 games looked and played like shit -until the dev's learned the system/got better tools to work with-and the 360 was easier to program for.

this generation, it switches. Initially the ps4 is apparently significantly easier to get better performance on than the xbone. will this change? sure. will xbone games ever look Better? who knows, they will -eventually- (ie ~1+years down the line) be at parity -1080p on both systems, showing similar frames per second etc.

price is going to hurt the xbone vs the ps4 just like price hurt the ps3 vs the 360.

for the WiiU. games are coming. as devs learn that system performance will increase as well. Shin`en said they rebuilt their main engine and were able to double the speed/bandwidth of their effects engine & utilize the other 2 cores the WiiU cpu has (they were only using one core intially- most release games only used one CPU core)

i want all 3 to do well as well. a healthy competition =better games for us.