The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Lenas

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Jesus I haven't been in here forever and you guys are still arguing about the same shit as before launch?
 

Vaclav

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You're vastly overestimating how much room the Xbone has to grow, Vaclav. The ESRAM and the super weak GPU and only having 12 ROPS is a huge handicap and as engines get more and more demanding like they did over the last generation it's not going to magically be able to pull power of its ass to be able to handle high resolutions and framerates. The PS4 is going to have to pull more and more power just to hit 1080p and 30/60 with more and more demanding games and the Xbone will not be able to keep up. Games kept looking better and better last generation and it wasn't because of Resolution or FPS increases dude.

You're just plain wrong and you will continue to be wrong.
Last gen started hitting the point where graphics are only getting better by small details though - I still think that we'll see better stuff on PS4, but how many people are going to say "OMG! This smoke is so much better" - I know I'll notice, it's why I own a PS4 and will only own an XBOne if-when I see an exclusive I care about - but already there's people out there that can't see the differences. And with more "slight details" being added I can't imagine that's going going to get worse.

PS4 is still the huge winner, but I just can't see it not getting stuck doing small tweaks because of TV limitations.
 

Sean_sl

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Last gen started hitting the point where graphics are only getting better by small details though - I still think that we'll see better stuff on PS4, but how many people are going to say "OMG! This smoke is so much better" - I know I'll notice, it's why I own a PS4 and will only own an XBOne if-when I see an exclusive I care about - but already there's people out there that can't see the differences. And with more "slight details" being added I can't imagine that's going going to get worse.

PS4 is still the huge winner, but I just can't see it not getting stuck doing small tweaks because of TV limitations.
You're wrong, Vaclav. The gap just isn't going to close like you think it is. There are serious hardware limitations that aren't going to be overcome and the Xbone isn't going to magically do the same resolution & fps as PS4 games in the years to come.

Also, people can tell the difference. Tomb Raider DE outsold the Xbone 2:1 on the PS4. Almost every single multiplatform title is selling higher on the PS4. People do know and understand that there are "better" versions of games.
 

Vaclav

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Well there are 2:1 PS4s to XBOnes though aren't there, roughly speaking? So it's just in line with what should sell.

And those are CURRENT ONES that people can tell the difference on right now. I'm expecting the rift will not be as drastic and for it to be less noticeable to people down the road. I could easily be wrong, but after 360/PS3 generation we've seen how the tables can begin to shift - I don't see anything that will allow it to overtake PS4 though, period.

Xevy: I'm not turned on him, still a big PS4 fanboi or whatever you want to call me - just don't expect it to continue to be two laps ahead. Remember some people said 360 would always stay leagues ahead of PS3 and we saw how that turned out. I have caged expectations that my investment in a PS4 is still wiser - just not the ridiculous amount it is right now.
 

Sean_sl

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No, there are not 2:1 PS4 to Xbones. That was US January hardware sales that was 2:1. Overall it was like a 52/48 split in the US as of the end of December and now it's like 55/45 maybe.

The 2:1 Tomb Raider DE numbers were for US sales only, not sure on WW.

Vaclav - the X360 was always weaker hardware (overall) than the PS3, just far easier to program for. The Xbone is weaker hardware than the PS4 *and* harder to program for.
 

Sean_sl

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Btw Vaclav, my original "parity" comment there today was mostly aimed at the idiots who thought that third party developers would *downgrade* PS4 versions of games to be identical to the Xbone so that there would be parity.

There were quite a few people saying that nonsense pre-launch. It's baffling that people actually believed that.
 

Vaclav

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Yep, Xevy here was one of those if memory serves. Probably Column too. Parity is only going to happen VERY rarely.
 

Column_sl

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Probably Column too.
Making more shit up. The only comments I've even had in this thread was owning UT when he said both consoles would be everywhere on Launch week, and destroying Sean on his Plasma vs Computer Display argument for the best gaming display. That was so much ownage it had to be removed ,and moved back to the TV thread.

Also I've waved the PC master race flag so many times here that I've been sent to the rickshaw repeatedly.
Don't confuse me with thinking the consoles are any good, If I could get all exclusives on the PC I would never buy them again.
like Athene " I'm here for the Gamez, son"

I could care less who has the most powerful console right now because I own them all. I buy consoles for the exclusives, and PC for everything else.
If the PC fails in supporting a competitive game, and it has better players I'll crossbuy into a console, but I always buy PC first with no questions.

If anyone gets gimped its the PC crowd getting shittier looking games because we are so far ahead of the console market.

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Vaclav

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"Probably" AKA I was guessing - that's not "making shit up" it's guessing.

Democrats will "probably" be winning the Presidency in 2016 - that's not making shit up if I'm wrong or being right if I'm right - it's guessing.
 

Column_sl

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If this was game of thrones you console puds would still be riding horseback , while we attack you on Dragons.

That's how far ahead we are right now. Next Gen? laughable
 

Sean_sl

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You didn't destroy me on anything, you dipshit.

You post nothing but lies, bullshit, and misinformation and shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum. You are a habitual liar and more full of shit than any other person here and you ruin threads, Column. Get the fuck out.
 

Column_sl

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You post nothing but lies, bullshit, and misinformation and shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum. You are a habitual liar and more full of shit than any other person here and you ruin threads, Column. Get the fuck out.
Yet you are the one they dedicated a whole thread to, the only thing that saves you from getting repeatably rickshawed is some mis-placed loyalty some of the older crowd has for the original FOH.
The fact they ever made you a mod is just a testament of how much hypocrisy goes on with this board.
 

Sean_sl

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I just post shit that pisses people off because they don't like hearing the truth.

You post flat out fabrications and lies. No one believes you own all the things that you claim you do. You're a liar and youmake shit up constantly, which is worse than anything that anyone else here does, including the worst trolls. You shouldn't be allowed anywhere near tech threads in case someone is stupid enough to listen to the crap you make up and your flat out wrong advice (I'd have banned you for your posts in the TV thread if I could).

You're going on ignore, because there's no point in further responding to someone who doesn't post in factual information ever.
 

Column_sl

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You're going on ignore, because there's no point in further responding to someone who doesn't post in factual information ever.
This is one of Seans favorite things to do when he knows he's lost he announces to the board he has put me on ignore, but never acutely does it.

What is this like the 5th time now Sean? Maybe one day you will go through it, instead of proclaiming you will.
And who is the Liar?