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Qhue said:

Most of this is just common sense. In the game I'm running now the BBEG was going to be the mother of one of the characters, and then that player's mom got diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer. So with that in mind I pivoted the fuck away from that whole plotline because playing the game is a way for him to NOT think about that for a few hours a week.

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Yeah, like I said it's really for new players to the table. You shouldn't need to have to read some safety tools to know whether or not something like that is too much for one of your close friends, but if you're not very close with some of your players for whatever reason, it's good to have SOMETHING set up for them on the off chance they're going through something

I take a much more streamlined approach. For anyone new wanting to play in one of the campaigns I run, I say "Hey, just FYI, I run dark and gritty R rated games. You ok with that?"

That's it. I never really find anything more than that is needed. Adults shouldn't need anything other than that imo. If you are playing with children it's a different story.

I think the issue is that all of Gen Z and a good portion of millenials are children- even though they are all technically adults.

What can be fun as a DM is to play the 'long game' with respect to murderhobo development. In my current game the party has mostly been in encounters where the enemy consisted of one challenging entity or a small group of moderately challenging opponents. They have thus optimized their characters for many-vs-one combat styles.

They are now moving into a segment of the overarching plot where they will face large numbers of weak to very weak opponents that use swarm-type tactics. The one character with weak-but-valid AE will suddenly get his chance to shine and the super-stealth character who has been built to assassinate 'bosses' will be totally out of her depth.

Qhue said:

What can be fun as a DM is to play the 'long game' with respect to murderhobo development. In my current game the party has mostly been in encounters where the enemy consisted of one challenging entity or a small group of moderately challenging opponents. They have thus optimized their characters for many-vs-one combat styles.

They are now moving into a segment of the overarching plot where they will face large numbers of weak to very weak opponents that use swarm-type tactics. The one character with weak-but-valid AE will suddenly get his chance to shine and the super-stealth character who has been built to assassinate 'bosses' will be totally out of her depth.

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But that one weak dude she actually gets to stealth assassinate is going to pop like a zit!!

Kaines said:

But that one weak dude she actually gets to stealth assassinate is going to pop like a zit!!

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Nothing as a player feels worse than overkilling some super weak creature by like 50 hp. Like, as a rogue critting a sneak attack feels awesome and then when the DM is like, no need to role, he's only got 3 hp... It's this weird sense of completely wasted over-achievement.

I created this cursed paladin only sword... Cursed isn't exactly the right word, but it's a sentient weapon infused with the soul of it's previous owner, a paladin of vengeance that when you crit with it, it forces you to use your highest spell slot for a smite. Plenty of times you'll want to do that anyways, but the times you don't, but are compelled to is perfect drama.

Pffft, that's a bad DM. What he should do is let you roll all your dice, and then the more you overkill it, the more he describes it as some horrible mutilation. You overkill a goblin by 50 with a sneak attack? Sound like what you did was grabbed the goblin by the back of the neck, and lifted it off the ground, repeatedly stabbing it in the back, while it kicks and flails screaming helplessly against your onslaught. You only stop when its diced innards are literally falling out the wretched creatures back, dropping its body to the floor and pointing at one of the other goblins, make an intimidation check.

Boom, now your a badass instead of feeling trashy.

Onoes said:

Pffft, that's a bad DM. What he should do is let you roll all your dice, and then the more you overkill it, the more he describes it as some horrible mutilation. You overkill a goblin by 50 with a sneak attack? Sound like what you did was grabbed the goblin by the back of the neck, and lifted it off the ground, repeatedly stabbing it in the back, while it kicks and flails screaming helplessly against your onslaught. You only stop when its diced innards are literally falling out the wretched creatures back, dropping its body to the floor and pointing at one of the other goblins, make an intimidation check.

Boom, now your a badass instead of feeling trashy.

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Eh, a good DM spends the whole game making the players feel like heroes, he can have this one

Ya know. They can't all always be good decisions.

Paizo announced today Pathfinder 2e Remastered: a reprinting of the core books that additionally includes some of the most popular character options from supplemental releases as well as lots of errata and some functional system changes (such as the removal of alignment). These books will be published under the ORC license as opposed to the OGL and be fully compatible with existing Pathfinder 2e rules and books.

The latest Unearthed Arcana has lots of new things. The redesigns for several of the classes feel very Pathfinder-ish :

Kriptini said:

Paizo announced today Pathfinder 2e Remastered: a reprinting of the core books that additionally includes some of the most popular character options from supplemental releases as well as lots of errata and some functional system changes (such as the removal of alignment). These books will be published under the ORC license as opposed to the OGL and be fully compatible with existing Pathfinder 2e rules and books.

paizo.com - Community / Paizo Blog

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The PF2 remaster is getting rid of ability scores because "they never use anything but the modifiers." Obviously, but the modifier stems from the ability score. They claim to be removing it because it streamlines gameplay, but that's so transparently bullshit. They're removing it because all the mental-illness has boiled over. Having a stat that objectively shows my character is stronger, faster, or smarter than yours is haram.

Fuck this gay Earth.


P.S. Anyone want to buy a literal brand new collection of every PF2 hardback?

Grabbit Allworth said:

The PF2 remaster is getting rid of ability scores because "they never use anything but the modifiers." Obviously, but the modifier stems from the ability score. They claim to be removing it because it streamlines gameplay, but that's so transparently bullshit. They're removing it because all the mental-illness has boiled over. Having a stat that objectively shows my character is stronger, faster, or smarter than yours is haram.

Fuck this gay Earth.


P.S. Anyone want to buy a literal brand new collection of every PF2 hardback?

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Calm down there Admiral Autism. You will still have stats that objectively show that your character is stronger, faster, or smarter than someone else's. They will just be represented as "+2" instead of "14 | +2". The scores themselves are totally redundant and only confuse new players. (I teach a lot of new players and they always have a hard time understanding scores.)

Also, understand that in Pathfinder 2e, there are no odd numbered scores below 19. It is impossible to have a 17, 15, 13, 11, 9, 7, etc. in an ability in the Pathfinder 2e system. This is another reason to do away with the scores and only keep the modifiers - no actual mechanics or information changes, it only cuts out redundancy.

The only weirdness this creates is with the odd-numbered ability scores 19 and up, but that can pretty easily be solved by saying "+4 and 1/2 boosts to +5" or something more elegant. It's not a big deal though. There are plenty of woke problems with Paizo but this isn't one of them. You can still play puny Halflings and retarded Lizardfolk.