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Quaid

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Can you stream it? I want to watch you battle the log in server for hours, fight invisible mobs, and deal with 7 second action delays. I have a free drunken gaming weekend I can dedicate to just drinking and laughing at you..
Has there been an MMORPG launch without launch day login issues?

Maybe GW2? I feel like I got early access to that so I can't remember. Even WoW was fucked for days iirc.
 

Warrik

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Has there been an MMORPG launch without launch day login issues?

Maybe GW2? I feel like I got early access to that so I can't remember. Even WoW was fucked for days iirc.
This game has been out for over a year. This is NOT a launch. The kinks should be worked out by now. Queues I can understand, but I dont believe for one second this game sold that many copies.
 

Vinyard_sl

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This game has been out for over a year. This is NOT a launch. The kinks should be worked out by now. Queues I can understand, but I dont believe for one second this game sold that many copies.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people who got this thinking "omg skyrim online!". I'd say it may have sold quite a few copies on console.
 

Byr

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This game has been out for over a year. This is NOT a launch. The kinks should be worked out by now. Queues I can understand, but I dont believe for one second this game sold that many copies.
Any time your going to have a massive spike of players youll have issues. You cant plan for that spike, you have to plan for the more consistent numbers.
 

Quaid

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This game has been out for over a year. This is NOT a launch. The kinks should be worked out by now. Queues I can understand, but I dont believe for one second this game sold that many copies.
I disagree. The PC version and console versions are different products with different needs and different challenges. It's going to face the same problems that plague many other MMORPG launches. Give it a week. This isn't our first rodeo.
 

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I disagree. The PC version and console versions are different products with different needs and different challenges. It's going to face the same problems that plague many other MMORPG launches. Give it a week. This isn't our first rodeo.
The PC version suffered from the same problems. The only fix they found for stability of the server, broken quests, missing NPCs, etc., was for a large percentage of their player base to stop playing. Their server and network code just seems to break under heavy load. I suppose, since it's B2P, they're just hoping for a similar "fix" for consoles.
 

Utnayan

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I am trying to understand your brain Quaid. You hated this game on PC. But if you can play it from a sofa that makes the doldrum drummier?

I am going to go through your PS4 games list on the friends list and make some recommendations for some actual fun games and help a brother out. Christ at this point I may even buy you one if you are this downtrodden.

And what BW said. Megaserver! Forcing people to Megaquit so you can actually play.
 

Quaid

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I am trying to understand your brain Quaid. You hated this game on PC. But if you can play it from a sofa that makes the doldrum drummier?

I am going to go through your PS4 games list on the friends list and make some recommendations for some actual fun games and help a brother out. Christ at this point I may even buy you one if you are this downtrodden.

And what BW said. Megaserver! Forcing people to Megaquit so you can actually play.
I hated it on PC because my expectations are much much MUCH higher for PC MMORPGs. The competitive environment is just so vast. Why would I pay a sub fee for a substandard piece of shit when I can fire up WoW? Or play TERA for free?

It was $20 to get my RPG on with my bro from the comfort of my living room. That's an easy sale for me. I haven't even loaded the game up yet - should tell you something about my actual excitement level.

Also, I don't own a gaming PC anymore due to my disappointment with PC exclusives these days. I won't be buying one any time soon unless Overwatch and EQN entice me to do so. Furthermore, the only games on my Watch List for PS4 are either free to play (Dungeon Defenders 2, Rocket League) or months away (No Man's Sky, FF15, Tony Hawk 5). TESO will serve as a good time-filler until the big fall releases.

So there you have it. The purchasing decision of a disillusioned aging MMORPG gamer.
 

Utnayan

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I hated it on PC because my expectations are much much MUCH higher for PC MMORPGs. The competitive environment is just so vast. Why would I pay a sub fee for a substandard piece of shit when I can fire up WoW? Or play TERA for free?

It was $20 to get my RPG on with my bro from the comfort of my living room. That's an easy sale for me. I haven't even loaded the game up yet - should tell you something about my actual excitement level.

Also, I don't own a gaming PC anymore due to my disappointment with PC exclusives these days. I won't be buying one any time soon unless Overwatch and EQN entice me to do so. Furthermore, the only games on my Watch List for PS4 are either free to play (Dungeon Defenders 2, Rocket League) or months away (No Man's Sky, FF15, Tony Hawk 5). TESO will serve as a good time-filler until the big fall releases.

So there you have it. The purchasing decision of a disillusioned aging MMORPG gamer.
Alright. It's time to stock you up then. At least this only cost you 20.

It is time to check out some if your titles and I will fix your disease. I cannot stand idly by and watch you put yourself through another bout of TESO with the same problems on another platform.

I will be in touch.

Doctor Ut.
 

Quaid

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I'm trading my old copy of DA:Inquisition for a copy of Lords of the Fallen tonight... But I'll have that beaten in a week.

I may or may not give a shit about the new Batman game. Never been a fan of the Batman mythos, but the game looks pretty sweet.

The only thing worse than the current PS4 library is... Every other platform. I feel like it's a particularly dark time for gaming.
 

popsicledeath

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Quaid doesn't even own a gaming PC and is defending TESO out of console desperation and Blackwulf is hammering the game every chance he gets. Strange times, my friends.
 

Utnayan

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Quaid doesn't even own a gaming PC and is defending TESO out of console desperation and Blackwulf is hammering the game every chance he gets. Strange times, my friends.
It isn't defending, it is a mid-life crisis in his gaming life. I have seen this before, and I have just the treatment plan. He is grasping at anything at this point to try and find some semblance of fun, and just like what happens when someone keeps dating an ex over and over again expecting it to get better, it's the same case with TESO on the new Console platform.

Have no fear. Dr. Ut is here.

Quaid, the first step is to NOT plug that game in, in any way shape or form. Lord of the Fallen sucks. Don't do that unless you have a hell of a deal on it from Amazon or something or it's a rental. I have what you need, but I am at work so I cannot assist immediately. I will have more information tonight.

For anyone else going through the mid-life gaming crisis, stop what you are doing, do not jump off the cliff with this game, and seek my help. I am here 24/7 virtually.

Quaid: Let's start my wellness gaming program by telling me what you want out of a video game.
 

Quaid

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Quaid doesn't even own a gaming PC and is defending TESO out of console desperation and Blackwulf is hammering the game every chance he gets. Strange times, my friends.
For the record, all my PC lacks is a GPU. I pulled out my GTX 780 when the MMORPG scene started to look real bleak last year. I got my fill of MOBAs a decade ago, and the state of the FPS scene (Ironsights, duck & cover etc) has simply left me behind. Still have an i7, 12gb RAM an an SSD just waiting for a GPU if I so choose. I see decent cards on kijiji (Canadian craigslist) for $150-250 all the time, so it's not a big deal.
 

Quaid

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Quaid: Let's start my wellness gaming program by telling me what you want out of a video game.
Now this is an interesting question. There are only a few gaming experiences left that I really enjoy these days.

I love objective based teamplay games that play like 'sports'. If I had an XBONE I'd definitely be playing SMITE right now, but here are those kinds of games that turn my crank:

Tribes Ascend Home
https://www.dungeondefenders.com/2/
ROCKET LEAGUE - Coming July 7, 2015

I like fast, frenetic, twitchy combat/gameplay. I love to strategize, plan, coordinate with teammates, and manage resources. I love high skill ceilings.
I hate stealth mechanics, cover shooters, and 90% of platformers. Super Meatboy was alright. I got over fighting games in the 90s.

I don't give a shit about 'story'. Even The Witcher 3, a game that is getting heaps of praise piled onto it, I find underwhelming. I read a lot, and the stories game developers tell are just always sub par. I'm the guy that couldn't get through The Last of Us. I've never played through an Assassin's Creed, BioShock, or Mass Effect title. I'm a fan of brawlers - Bayonetta 2, DMC, and God of War come to mind. I love a fast paced racer in the vein of F-Zero, too. I love arcade style 'stunt' games like Tony Hawk or SSX, or any game with interesting movement.

All that being said, I know most of what I discussed isn't going to be present in an MMORPG, which is my favourite genre... The thing that most RPGs lack that all the games above have in common? Excitement.

I can only remember two MMORPG experiences that actually excited me, and they did it in two ways. In EverQuest, it was generated via fear (of death, progression loss), and in World of Warcraft it was generated by awe (encounter design, environments). In addition to fear & awe, I want meaningful economic/bartering player interaction, interpersonal reliance, and freedom. I have thoughts on how to achieve these things, but that would require a more detailed discussion.
 

popsicledeath

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For the record, all my PC lacks is a GPU. I pulled out my GTX 780 when the MMORPG scene started to look real bleak last year. I got my fill of MOBAs a decade ago, and the state of the FPS scene (Ironsights, duck & cover etc) has simply left me behind. Still have an i7, 12gb RAM an an SSD just waiting for a GPU if I so choose. I see decent cards on kijiji (Canadian craigslist) for $150-250 all the time, so it's not a big deal.
I agree. And that PC gaming is bleak.

Only reason I have my gaming PC is I needed a general upgrade anyhow and decided to buy an Nvidia Shield so still buy shit for PC because I can usually still play on the couch. Playing GW2 became fun again being able to play at my GF's parents house 300 miles away from my PC.

When did you last play WoW? Have you tried the FF:Afterbirth yet?
 

Quaid

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I haven't played WoW seriously since Wrath, but I dabbled casually during MOP. Couldn't get into it.

FF14 is just too eastern for my tastes. Colours, races, voices... Fundamental stuff like that I just can't get over. It's a shame because the game looks decent.
 

Utnayan

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Now this is an interesting question. There are only a few gaming experiences left that I really enjoy these days.

I love objective based teamplay games that play like 'sports'. If I had an XBONE I'd definitely be playing SMITE right now, but here are those kinds of games that turn my crank:

Tribes Ascend Home
https://www.dungeondefenders.com/2/
ROCKET LEAGUE - Coming July 7, 2015

I like fast, frenetic, twitchy combat/gameplay. I love to strategize, plan, coordinate with teammates, and manage resources. I love high skill ceilings.
I hate stealth mechanics, cover shooters, and 90% of platformers. Super Meatboy was alright. I got over fighting games in the 90s.

I don't give a shit about 'story'. Even The Witcher 3, a game that is getting heaps of praise piled onto it, I find underwhelming. I read a lot, and the stories game developers tell are just always sub par. I'm the guy that couldn't get through The Last of Us. I've never played through an Assassin's Creed, BioShock, or Mass Effect title. I'm a fan of brawlers - Bayonetta 2, DMC, and God of War come to mind. I love a fast paced racer in the vein of F-Zero, too. I love arcade style 'stunt' games like Tony Hawk or SSX, or any game with interesting movement.

All that being said, I know most of what I discussed isn't going to be present in an MMORPG, which is my favourite genre... The thing that most RPGs lack that all the games above have in common? Excitement.

I can only remember two MMORPG experiences that actually excited me, and they did it in two ways. In EverQuest, it was generated via fear (of death, progression loss), and in World of Warcraft it was generated by awe (encounter design, environments). In addition to fear & awe, I want meaningful economic/bartering player interaction, interpersonal reliance, and freedom. I have thoughts on how to achieve these things, but that would require a more detailed discussion.
And you have a Wii U as well correct? You didn't like Splatoon. That's ok.

What other consoles do you have? Any portables?
 

Pyros

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Any reason you're not playing Smite on PC? You say you'd play it on Xboxone but it's not like it makes a huge difference on PC?