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ShakyJake

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Yeah, the massive time jump was a little odd. Loved the completely instant deceleration scene, totally worth waiting for.
Yeah, it felt like a season premiere.

So, with that "inertial quick stop" as its been called, wouldn't the entire vessel go squish? Or, at least, be horribly damaged?
 
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In theory, yes. In terms of the books/show, it is pretty much "magic" from a tech perspective as to why it applies to the non-living things only and anything living gets splattered. The show actually highlighted this from the fact his restraint straps and shirt were pretty much untouched and everything else was gibbed. One possible theory based on the book

In the book we find out the race that made the protomolecule and the gate was destroyed by another race probably billions of years ago. It is possible maybe it was a safeguard to prevent rapid entry into the gates by that race, while leaving the tech intact. We find out the "computer" at the center of the gate network had no issues in causing the sun to go nova in any system it suspected was invaded by that race.
 
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I wish I was smart enough to talk about how being able to control gravity would mean you could reset the gravity/acceleration/mass of any object and what its affects might be on organic and inorganic matter but I'm just realizing now I'm too dumb to actually do more than think "... science, bitches!"

fuck i'm jesse pinkman, not walter white
 
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ShakyJake

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I wish I was smart enough to talk about how being able to control gravity would mean you could reset the gravity/acceleration/mass of any object and what its affects might be on organic and inorganic matter but I'm just realizing now I'm too dumb to actually do more than think "... science, bitches!"

fuck i'm jesse pinkman, not walter white
Inertia has nothing to do with gravity, right? I mean, I think they are equivalent but control of one doesn't necessarily mean the control of the other?
 
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There was a time skip in the books as well, which makes sense. Just the trip alone to the ring takes months.

Yup they do pay attention to the fact that the solar system is BIG so when they need most of the crew to be out either at the ring or heading that direction either you do a lot of padding filler episodes or you just do a time skip. In this case the time skip is probably the best way to do it and it lets them basically go right at the start of book three.
 
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So, can anyone explain why the Mormons would've been totally cool with letting the Nauvoo be stolen? It would be different if the thing was sailing out of the solar system right now and unrecoverable.

You know a shit ton of cash would've went into that project and there is no way they would simply shrug their shoulders and let it go.
 
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Inertia has nothing to do with gravity, right? I mean, I think they are equivalent but control of one doesn't necessarily mean the control of the other?

Inertia is the action of an object in motion remaining in that motion and without forced deviation. In the shows case on that guy, he was INITIALLY trying for the longest inertial drift and was on course to beat the record but no one cared, so he course changed manually and thus lost his record because it was no longer using inertial drift and was then an assisted drift.

Gravity is an acceleration toward a mass object and, while stationary, you would simply accelerate towards that object til you achieved terminal velocity. TECHNICALLY because of gravity, you are constantly falling downwards and only through resistance are you standing / sitting / living.

If you were to master gravity you would have mastered all forms of inertial based movement. For better or worse if you understood how to manipulate gravity you would be near godlike. You could take a movie like Interstellar where they were able to basically make what the mormons wanted to make but on earth where you have mass resources, then take that craft easily off earth.

Honestly i am loving this show, it took me a hot minute to relate the ships all flying with their burners TOWARDS the thing they were flying at to them stopping in a controlled manner. My mind was blown at that point because I thought it was an editing fuckup because I didn't expect that level of detail.
 
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So, can anyone explain why the Mormons would've been totally cool with letting the Nauvoo be stolen? It would be different if the thing was sailing out of the solar system right now and unrecoverable.

You know a shit ton of cash would've went into that project and there is no way they would simply shrug their shoulders and let it go.
They're not ok with it, the belters are claiming it as salvage. Probably claiming the Eros incident as exigent circumstances. There will be a court battle, but in what court?
 
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Cybsled

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Like Chaos said, the Mormons aren't cool with it. No clue if the show will go into any detail, but they offhand mention there are ongoing legal battles and it becomes a question of which jurisdiction/etc, but the Belters don't give a fuck lol.

Honestly i am loving this show, it took me a hot minute to relate the ships all flying with their burners TOWARDS the thing they were flying at to them stopping in a controlled manner. My mind was blown at that point because I thought it was an editing fuckup because I didn't expect that level of detail.

Outside the protomolecule stuff, they try to keep the show as grounded as possible in terms of physics. That is part of the reason why travel takes so long in the books/show...you can only accelerate to a certain point, then you have to flip and burn in the opposite direction to gradually decelerate your craft.
 
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So, can anyone explain why the Mormons would've been totally cool with letting the Nauvoo be stolen? It would be different if the thing was sailing out of the solar system right now and unrecoverable.

You know a shit ton of cash would've went into that project and there is no way they would simply shrug their shoulders and let it go.

They are not cool with it at all. They try to sue the OPA but it becomes useful enough that the OPA tells them to go fuck themselves and earth and mars don't care enough one way or the other.
 
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Cybsled

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Awesome! Amazon badly needs some original shows worth watching and this will fit in great.
 
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So, can anyone explain why the Mormons would've been totally cool with letting the Nauvoo be stolen? It would be different if the thing was sailing out of the solar system right now and unrecoverable.

You know a shit ton of cash would've went into that project and there is no way they would simply shrug their shoulders and let it go.

The Mormons try to recompense their losses but the Belters utilize some the same salvage laws that let Holden get the Rocinante. That along with the war and the Ring the governments aren't really interested in pursuing the law to help them get it back.

So yeah bigger fish to fry and suck it up is the only real response they get lol.
 
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Jorren

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Been waiting for this episode, glad they did it the way they did. Time skip was the right call rather than belaboring the political aftermath.
 
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Yeah it wasn't just at any rando dinner that Bezos made the announcement, it was at the annual International Space Development Conference where the Expanse cast had a panel earlier that day but the dinner was a awards ceremony kind of thing, Bezos was getting an award for his Blue Origin space program startup, and he announced that the news was official a few minutes ago and brought up the cast and crew of the show as well. Very cool way to do it.

He also casually said future SEASONS when he announced it was picked up so it should be good for at least 2-3 more seasons, and amazon will be an amazing home for it since people will be able to binge all of it as much as they want. Pretty goddamn exciting and really has me excited for all the things amazon has currently under development:

Consider Phlebas (THE CULTURE!!!!)
Ringworld
Snow Crash (Neil Stephenson's pizza delivery guy with a katana cyberpunk novel)
Lazarus
The Three Body Problem (chinese sci fi that is also massive galactic space opera in a similar vein to Expanse)
William Gibson's "Peripheral" (VR/future)
and of course Lord of the Rings
 
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I always wondered how they would do belter music. That wasn't a bad take.
 
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Wait, Amazon has The Culture under development? Holy shit that's awesome.
 
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